When i'm in bed with a girl and we're watching netflix, she's cuddly and touching my arms etc, how do I go from that to sex?

Last time I tried it was super awkward because I never did foreplay before and she kept laughing but in a friendly way. She still said i'm a "very awkward person". The sex itself was super awkward tbqf.

How do I make it not awkward? How much do I kiss her before I start undressing her? where do I touch her?

This is something I should've learned in my teens but here we are.

>>33225026 (OP)
>Here we are

Exactly. Don't feel bad

Put your arm around her shoulder or on her leg. Start tracing little circles with your fingers lightly. Play with her hair. If you're tracing circles or running your hands/fingers up and down her legs a little, work just a little bit closer to her pussy or ass every time. And then you can just look at her and kiss her if she seems to be enjoying. If you can't tell, just keep doing it and see if she touches you back.

Just have fun dude, if you're in bed with her, she wants it. So be playful and tease. Just don't go from 0-100.

>>33225054
Ok, thanks. The last night we were watching netflix until like 4am. She was kissing my arms, resting her head on me etc and she seemed fine with me touching her mostly everywhere and kissing her on the arms and head but when I tried moving my hand up to her pussy she took it off and put it elsewhere on her body.

Then we went to bed but the mood just wasn't there and I went to sleep. We cuddled and talked a lot when we woke up. I honestly don't think she wanted it but why did she cuddle?
She's the one who suggested we "netflix and chill". Those exact words.

>>33225026 (OP)
Z

>>33225094
ya it doesn't feel good to have your pussy/clit touched before the honey pot is warmed up

you took a signal saying "not yet you gotta put in another 10 or 15 minutes worth of work for that" and chose to pout instead like she rejected any sexual encounter

>>33227627
But I wasn’t trying to finger her. I was just rubbing around her thigh close to it. And she had her pants on too. I wasn’t putting my hand inside them.

>>33227664
did you get her tits out

>>33225026 (OP)
A critical component of good sex is communication. If both of you are feeling awkward, then the worst possible thing you can do is start randomly groping her without warning. Talk to her. Ask her how she's feeling. Ask her how she would like you to touch her. If you aren't capable of communicating about things like that, you have no future together.

This is good advice >>33225054
But also you can start by kissing her and while kissing her start feeling her shoulders down to her hips and gradually start undressing her, if she responds positively then you are good to go. Foreplay is a must though, you need to read up on that shit.

>>33225026 (OP)
Push her onto her back and give her a big raspberry on her stomach. Then pet her head while you tell her what a good girl she is.

>>33227684
No, I didn't. When were were touching each other we were still in the living room, where someone could've walked in at any time.
I was trying to touch around her pussy to get her in the mood. Should I try tits next time?

>>33227785
>you need to read up on that shit.
yeah, I really do. I started watching tutorials on porn sites unironically.
It felt super strange the last time because I did fuck numerous escorts but never did foreplay with them or just let them do foreplay on me. This was something I wasn't used to at all, it felt like a skill I haven't unlocked yet.

>>33227831
really?

>>33227866
>really?
NTA but some women are genuinely into that kind of thing, the navel is an erogenous area for many women

>>33227942
This girl i'm talking about doesn't even really seem into having her pussy licked. After she sucked my dick I told her that i'd return the favour and she straight up said I don't have to.
I still did it but I was too drunk to remember her reaction, it only lasted like a minute so either she doesn't like it or I was doing it wrong. But I did everything wrong that time. I really want to make her cum this time.

>>33227866
Really. And if she backs off, that's normal. Women are usually a little resistant at first to being domesticated. Buy her a cute fluffy collar with a bell and a leash to go with it. She'll love it.

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>>33225094
Bruh you skipped making out and went right for her crotch. Thats a critical error. It starts with touching non sexual areas, then goes to making out, then sexual areas, oral, then sex.

>>33229690
well I was trying to just fondle her a bit before going to the bedroom and making out there. I kissed her on the head a few times but she didn't even move so I don't think she wanted it.

>>33229725
do you think, in today's world where women drive themselves insane about men flipping out at random, that a woman invited you over to her house and said "netflix and chill" because she wanted to tease you and stonewall you at kissing?

you don't have to keep posting defending yourself, just take the L. if you have just done things in a slightly different order, you would have created the confidence she needed to go all the way and you would have gotten your special friend to empty your nuts

>>33229956
>you don't have to keep posting defending yourself, just take the L. if you have just done things in a slightly different order, you would have created the confidence she needed to go all the way and you would have gotten your special friend to empty your nuts
I already had sex with her once, and I spent the night in her bedroom 3 times altogether. I will be seeing her again. I just want to not fuck it up. She really didn't seem interested the last time, and the time before that she said she was on her period.

>>33229956
also she's renting with others. She really invited me out for a walk and we got alcohol on the way back,

>>33227664
Touch her elsewhere for a couple of mins at least first

And then don't go straight for her pussy, put your hand up her top and play with the waistline of her leggings/panties/whatever. she will ideally let out a little moan or sigh of relief and you'll know you're in

Btw it's not failsafe, I have succeeded with some girls and failed with others. Everyone has and so will you. Sometimes the chemistry or mutual desire in the moment just isn't there and that's fine. If it's happened a handful of times and you're fed up with it, it's OK to end it. But I'd say it's worth another go, just go slower and make sure to tease/deprive her before you go all in.

>>33230266
the "netflix and chill (wink)" was a few days before that.

>>33229725
I just want to reassure you that you're not a retard. Sometimes it happens naturally, other times not. Maybe this is one of the latter cases and you just gotta chalk it up.

>>33230282
why do you think that? I'm genuinely curious

Just let your horniness take over. Start pinching her nipples. Rub her pussy over her pants. Give her that look. Stick your hand in her pussy and take a taste. Be an animal. Hold her chin in your hands, stroke her cheek

>>33230354
You've tried multiple times and it's not working

But from the sounds of it she's being weird, not you

With another girl you could have done the exact same thing and ended up fucking like 4 times. Just how it is

>>33230439
So what should I do?
This all started because she'd randomly grab my hand or arm when we were walking.
She called me hot and even has me saved as that in her phone.
She insisted that we netflix and chill through text and irl when we're watching a movie she rubs my hand, kisses me arm, puts her head on my chest etc. We already did fuck once so I think we can do it again, but at this point I almost feel like a pervert. I wish she initiated things more except for the touching.

Last time we were up until 4am watching a movie and it was awkward af because I was hoping she'd either tell me to go home or ask to go to the bedroom. I was enjoying it but it was clearly just episode after episode that we weren't really interested in anymore. I felt like I should have went home but she had her legs on top of me.

>>33230712
Give it one more go

Do >>33225054 and if it doesn't work, tell her you're gonna head home (don't hang around awkwardly if you don't want to be there), definitely don't spend the night, and let her know the following day that you had fun but don't see it going anywhere.

She might just be awkward/shy, in which case when you end it she might try to save it. But desu I'd be frustrated and annoyed if I were you, you're not necessarily doing anything wrong.

>>33225026 (OP)
>Have sex with an inexperienced person
>Laugh at them and call them awkward, rather than focus on making them feel comfortable and pleasuring them so they feel more confident
She might just be a bitch

>>33231097
I think you're right. Next time i'll try to be more forward. I'll try to go for her boobs more, kiss her more on the lips etc. If she pulls my hand away, i'll just ask her if she's not interested and see what she says to that.

It's just so weird now because the last time I felt like I should've went home and she wanted me to when it was 4am and we were just still mindlessly watching shit. But then again she was cuddly and kissed me a little on the arms so I still went up to bed with her even though we just cuddled there. The morning after was fun and we chatted and cuddled and kissed some more.

The mixed signals i'm getting from her are crazy. It's such a fucking me thing to happen. I hate it.
Maybe she wants me to be more dominant but I really do wish she made things more clear.

>>33231230
>She might just be a bitch
She's really nice and lovely to talk to normally. Sure, it didn't feel amazing hearing her say that but she was 100% right. I was acting like a mega autist. Didn't know what to do.

>>33231557
Then go for it anon

Start small, work your way up. Have the confidence to try teasing/depriving her a little once you're in the flow of it. Good luck.

>>33231097
Also I don’t think she is shy at all. Doesn’t seem like the type but she is always drunk when she gets touchy so maybe. So I think i’ll have to take charge. I’ll try once more and if it doesn’t work i’ll stop trying.

>>33225026 (OP)
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>>33225026 (OP)
you're still asking the same question but adding the netflix part in front
practice foreplay, you have someone to practice foreplay with, don't be stubborn