> Be me
> Dropped out of high school in second or third week.
> Stayed indoors playing eroge for pretty much 7 years.
> Not many friends. Only ever liked one guy and he's 32 and married.
> Feel like I'll never be anything but a NEET shut-in unable to work or help my parents in anyway as I grow up.
> Life is literally unable to go anywhere due to my crippling fear of social situations.
> Hate normies.
> Start to become more and more jaded and start to hate women who have sex.

What the hell do I do. I don't even want a real person to be with, I'm simply in limbo here. I'll probably always be a bruden to the people around me unless I just kill myself. I'm terrified of the fact that I can't stay like this forever, and yet I don't know how to exist outside the house without the support of one of my parents or family members.

>>33230643 (OP)
Answer these three questions first: are you American, white or overweight?

>>33230643 (OP)
lmao bruh

>>33230643 (OP)
Youre probably skinny, leave the name femcel for the real ones like me

If ur fat lose weight and there will be men who will kill to be your man. If ur not fat, then ur problem might be hygiene. Post height and weight and date of most recent shower for judgement

>>33230660
I am skinny, white, and Americans annoy me.

>>33230741
I bet you've held hands before though you dirty girl.

step one is getting a job. i don't know the other steps.

>>33230797
But men are all disappointing and most people in general in my area are ugly as all hell. There's only really one person I'd genuinely like to be with and I'm pretty positive he's married.

>>33230828
Jobs are for people who can function in society. Try being a NEET for years and then see if you'd wanna try getting a job. I can't even leave the house, how am I gonna work? Not to mention I don't want to.

>>33230809
>I am skinny, white
so youre not a femcel, just lazy and mentally ill

>>33230643 (OP)
First things first... what AGE are you? you dropped out of high school so... 20 something minimum I guess?

>>33230843
I think the latter there is more so your true reason. You DO know there are ways to work online, right? without getting out of your house

>>33230815
This gave me butterflies. i have held hands but if the boy ever saw me naked he would puke.

>>33230860
Aren't they technically the same thing?

>>33230923
Doubt it. If he's a real man he wouldn't care about your weight. Guys who put importance on such things are retarded.

>>33230912
I'm mentally challenged.


Though admittedly, I'd probably like to work as a translator for visual novels. Dunno how to get into it though.

>>33230797
I'm avarage height. Pretty damn skinny and uh..... ... the day before yesterday maybe?

I genuinely don't care for 3D men though. They're honestly incredibly underwhelming. I've only ever liked one person who I've met irl.

>>33230643 (OP)

>>33231025
I ought to show you

>>33231118
Me? Show me what? <----- dumb

>>33231016
No...not at all. This is why women shouldn't be allowed to use words like this. They have no idea what they mean

>>33230643 (OP)
You're not going to like this, but the answer is to do the thing you're terrified of and start socialising. If you want advice on how to start I can give you some pointers

>>33230643 (OP)
Everyone needs family and support, don't feel guilty for relying on people who brought you into this world. You're not a burden, you're an adult. The limbo you're talking about comes in when people stop perceiving you as a growing teen or child, you're expected to make decisions for your own sake. This happens all throughout highschool and college, and you unfortunately missed out on it. Be more selfaware of your needs, and become independent, it sounds impossible but all you have to do is try, because everyone is.

>>33231257
>If you want advice on how to start I can give you some pointers
Please do. I find myself too unlikeable to even consider putting myself out there. And, to begin with,
>out there
Where?

>>33231833
>>33231833
I'm going to be drawing heavily from my own experiences, but hopefully there's enough shared experience for this to be helpful. Also sorry that it's a wall of text. Like. I ended up typing a lot

First: Practical advice

I think that voice chats online can be a really good way of easing yourself into socialising. Personally I joined an online D&D group as my first foray into socialisation. It was significantly less scary when I couldn't see their faces. Crucially, when I thought I'd said something cringey I could just mute my headphones, close my eyes and wait five seconds and then unmute them and the conversation would have moved on and I could pretend it never happened. If you are not interested in D&D then think about what sort of voice-chat-using communities you could join, even if they're a little outside your comfort zone in terms of content.

In that same vein, I found it excruciatingly embarrassing just sort of being outside and perceived by others. I'd worry if I was somehow walking wrong or breathing too loud or some shit. Forcing myself to go somewhere public but still chill and just reading a book by myself got me used to the feeling. So I'd go to like cafes or park benches and just read, not even socialising. That eased me into physical spaces.

When I was trying to psych myself up before a bout of socialisation, one technique I found bafflingly helpful was to imagine the scary thing had already happened. I don't know the psychology behind it, but when I felt less scared when I pretended that I'd already gone to the hang out sesh and I was merely re-acting out the events which had already taken place.

If you're anything like me, you've frustratedly yelled online "what do people even talk to each other about?!". Here is an overview of what people actually talk to each other about when they're getting to know each other. https://www.reddit.com/r/CuratedTumblr/comments/w3vz3c/how_to_talk_to_people_101/igypbbc/

>>33232070
To an extent, you've got to learn to be selfish. Even if you think you're unlikeable you have to tell yourself "sucks to be them, guess they're going to have to deal with me while I socialise with them because I'm going insane without social contact". Eventually you'll have to start working on your self-esteem but fuck, it's hard to feel like you're likeable when you aren't liked by people. Being selfish enough to go out and socialise with other people will give you the evidence that people do actually like you.

When you've spent most of your time alone and mostly only socialised via 4chan it's going to be a bit of a culture shock when you meet other people. For example, I met people with dyed hair and they/them pronouns and who liked reality tv and knew their horoscope and did all sorts of other stuff 4chan had taught me to distrust and roll my eyes at. But they were good, smart people, and I'm glad to have met them. People are odd like that.

>Where is "out there"?
Discord servers aside, that will depend entirely on your circumstances I'm afraid. If you live in a city there are probably some meetups on meetup.com. Googling around a little will reveal some other stuff. Joining a volunteer group or a club for some kind of activity are easy ways to meet people. Libraries do a lot of social stuff too. I recognise you might live somewhere like an American suburban hell desert where you can't go anywhere for whatever reason though.

>>33232073
Second: Mindset

My first piece of advice is that it's going to suck and that's okay. You're going to feel like you're being asked to bungie jump when you contemplate the prospect of introducing yourself to a new group. When you actually talk to people you're going to have a constant undercurrent of fear. When you're alone you're going to go through the way you socialised that day and worry if there was something you did wrong. It's going to be scary, but that's okay. You're not going to die.

A big obstacle in your journey is going to be your own feelings that you're a failure. You're going to want to be very hard on yourself because you're having so much difficulty with things everyone else seems able to breeze through and because our culture shames people who can't participate in society. It's normal to feel that way, but it's wrong. If we look at your situation with clear eyes we can see that you're basically trying to go through life with a gigantic millstone around your neck. Of course you find it hard to socialise when you're fucking terrified of socialising. Anybody else would. That's what fear does to us -- it's what it's SUPPOSED to do to us. Something's just gone wrong and miscalibrated your fear response. You need to spend time chipping away at that fear until eventually it goes away. It won't happen overnight and that doesn't make you a failure.
This is not feel good fluff. I am not telling you this to make you feel better, I am telling you this to help you succeed. It's very easy to roll your eyes at this and go "okay but I AM a failure" or conversely "pssh, I don't think I'm a failure, I think it's the rest of society that's wrong", but letting go of your feeling of failure is actually key to the whole thing. You need to be able to reward yourself when you succeed at this or you won't keep pushing forwards. You need to be able to be clear-headed and kind to yourself when you face setbacks or you won't be able to bounce back.

>>33232081
I've got some practical advice on what to tell people when they ask you "so what do you do?" or "what have you been doing for the past few years?" but it's 3 AM and I've already typed out an embarrassing amount of advice so I'll do it tomorrow if the thread's still up and you're interested

>>33231059
Well there's your problem. Men don't like you because you don't like men. Doesn't take a rocket scientist.

>>33230643 (OP)
You should get a high school equivalency certification, once you do that you should go to community college and get all your Gen Ed done, and make friends with women your age, women irl are so much nicer than online they're sweethearts and they'd be happy to be friends with you if you talk to them. At that point you can meet guys too that are your age, and you'll probably have it figured out what you want to do as your major, during that time you can get a drivers license and a part time job because now you have college schooling to write on your resume and you have resources at the school to help you write it.
I was in this same situation as a man, now I have my life on track and the only thing that matters is you, not comparing yourself to your peers.
I had no friends when I started college I felt like I was practicing speaking for the first time again cause I was so isolated but now all my friends are from college including my best friend.

>>33230643 (OP)
become a gfe vtuber, worst case scenario youre self employed & develop social skills simultaneously, best case scenario you make tons of simpbux.

>>33230643 (OP)
Get like a GED or equivalent where you live. Or get a job as a waitress or in retail with a good work culture. You might even make friends. Also be a minimalist and save and invest to try and break free. Or find a guy to save you if you're cute.

>>33230643 (OP)
I'm fat, ugly and mexican but I have my own house and income. Marry me and let's get done with it. It's a serious offer. I'm not picky. I will take whatever I can take.

>>33231833
>>33232070
Wasn't me who asked, but I'm glad there's someone else like me in the thread and I appreciate it and will come back later to read.

sounds like larp
plus stop saying you are femcel
no woman is a femcel and stop pretending you are, my culure is not your costume

>>33230643 (OP)
Damn, I wish I could find a shut-in femcel. I'm a shut-in volcel because normie women disgust and annoy me.

female loneliness is literally unfathomable to me. as in it doesn't seem actually possible. i know 1 crack hoe and 1 fat ogre that spend their free time farming free drinks from guys at bars. men will literally take anything with a pussy between its legs. there's nothing stopping OP from taking a photo of their greasy, unkempt head, with their filthy bedroom in plain view and putting it on some dating app where good looking men with 6 figure jobs will be kowtowing at her hoofs just for the CHANCE at spending time with her. fuck. there's literally a guy in this thread RIGHT NOW that will let you into his life. it's literally THAT easy. you're sitting here talking about how your future "looks bleak" when it's within your means to jump ship into some random man's life within a single WEEK and all you have to do is make sure they're not violent. if you were to somehow scientifically quantify privilege there wouldn't be a doubt in my mind that modern day white women would be the most privileged group of people to ever exist in all of history, right above crowned royalty and saudi oil princes.

It wont get better if you don't change.

>>33235249
this

>>33235186
>I'm a shut-in volcel because normie women disgust and annoy me.
mega cope

>>33230643 (OP)
Just set a goal for yourself, get out of your loved comfort zone and put yourself in the game taking some risks. In the beginning you will make mistakes and fail again and again, don't stop, build up experience and learn from it. In time you will realize that until now you were just surviving (not living) and that what you seek (and didn't even know it) is out there, it just require your hard work and dedication.

>>33230643 (OP)
in theory i'd be your bf, maybe (but am american)
you just gotta find another weirdo guy, they exist

>>33238931
>mega cope
It's not a cope. I've been on dates. I can barely handle how annoying they are to talk to on apps before the date. Then I meet them in person and they're 1,000x worse in person. I've had to leave in the middle of every date I've been on because I just couldn't stand her. The only non-normie women I know already have boyfriends.

>>33235249
Yeah, but I do have standards. I don't wanna take just anyone out of shallowness. Dating isn't something I can ever imagine me doing. I don't particularly want anyone, I just hate the thought that everyone else my age is a total slut.

Only really one person I've ever liked, and he's married...

>>33242019
Another loser f here, Do you find it just annoying or do you feel like you cant connect with them and get really anxious? I have never dated and i feel like i can never date and connect with anybody because of my autism

>>33230643 (OP)
if you are not burn victim or deformed tier ugly or fat there is hope for you.

you need to take the next steps, don't rush it or feel guilty if you can't do them all

>take a shower
>brush your teeth
>fix your diet
>if you see man you are interested talk to him

these steps wouldn't help an incel really but they will help a "femcel", as a woman all you need to do to have a man in not be covered in dirt and shit, just that, do that and a man will shoulder your burdens.

>>33242668
sounds to me like you're envious that other people can connect with each other easily while you're stuck up on one guy. you're obviously retarded but you just need more socialization. getting a job would be like killing 2 birds with one stone because you'll get an income and better social skills by conversing with coworkers.

>>33230643 (OP)
Get a job that requires you to be on your feet if you aren't working already. The job will teach you social skills and they don't give a shit if you aren't good at them, just don't bitch people out and follow whatever corporate standards they have like not breaking down over little shit or being rude to guests and you'll make it fine. Stay away from family owned places or places with bad reviews, if there's a problem in the kitchen then that means the staff are shit and likely sycophantic/assholes/both that will fuck you over for nothing.
Don't worry about your figure other than fixing what you eat if your diet is shitty or simply eating less often if you stress eat.
Get a hobby and a big ass vibrator while you work it out, it seems like you're feeling guilty about wasting time and honestly you need to waste MORE time, just productively.
If you're absolutely broken as a human and can't find work, movie theaters honestly aren't bad either and the requirements are almost nothing with a cushy track to management if you decide to stay.
The very worst thing for you to do is sit at home and feel bad about not doing shit. That's the loop you have to break and god DAMN it's a bitch to break but once you do you'll feel very silly.

No joke I'm 32 and you're the female version of me. Still not in a situation I want but I feel much better and stroke like I want to tear my dick off when I get lonely. Definitely getting more girl attention, but it didn't start until I fixed my confidence. Guys are different, don't wish for sex, it won't give you fulfillment if there's no real connection.

>>33242671
The unfortunate reality is you have to stay current with whatever assslop show is popular or share a hobby or you're absolutely fucked 99% of the time. Don't follow popular shit? She'll never see you as a person if you don't pass the knowledge check of awkward small talk. Either that or you have to be funny and constantly jingling your keys at her.

Women on first dates for some reason become retarded teenagers regardless of age.

You need to get your prorities in order. Get a job with enough income to me somewhat independant. Hygiene. Shower every day. Hit gym a couple times a week-- something active, anytjing. Go for walks in the daylight. You are clearly depressed and far, far from worrying about relationship issues at this stage.

You already wrote out what you need to work on. Get your shit together and become someone who WON'T burden others the best you can. The rest will fall into place easy for a woman. You will probably have to lower those seemingly entitled standards though-- this talk of not being into anyone but one guy when you already aren't prepared to bring much to the table, isn't very becoming. You can start considering your love life once you're in a position to have one. Work on your stability first. Become someone someone else would want later once you aren't fucking around at home gooning for half of the day.

>>33231016
Reminder for everyone answering this thread that OP is not an incel (as expected), but an idiot who's not attracted to men. Seems like the answers here are forgetting this and are just assuming that she is like a male incel.

>>33242753
I meant that i am a girl that has never been on a date and was asking op if she feels the same way as me. I am a retard even when im not on a date, so i dont se any way i could ever connect with another human and be completely myself with them.

>>33242806
I would focus on self-care and work on finding a group you share a common interest with. Developing yourself socially is much harder than being able to enjoy someone's company so start by trying to do a little more every day to talk more. Cut out escapist entertainment like anime as much as possible. Make shit and share it. Work on a side hustle. Anything to get you moving in a direction that isn't where you are now.

>>33230643 (OP)
Good news is that in the current climate you can do a lot of stuff remotely and online (in western world at least). Highschool and further education can be done online. A lot of jobs can be done with minimal contact. I've had an admin office job where my desk was off the main throughway. I just positioned my self so nobody could see my screen and I always had headphones in. People generally left me alone because they weren't sure if I was in meetings or training or just listening to music.

I could come and go as I pleased and nobody gave a crap so long as my work was done. Pay was okay and I think I only had to say 20 words a day.also got to work from home two or three times a week.

Basically there is hope for people like us to hide in normy world and get money.

>>33230643 (OP)
you should read read "Welcome to the N.H.K". Also you might be a lesbian.

Anon you have time on your hands, try to value it. I know it's hard when you have a lot of it, but trust me on this one. Try to persue anything you care about. Try to write, create a game, get good at a game, whatever. Just dedicate yourself to anything.

You live like this because you parents allow you to, if they didn't of if they died you would find your way somehow. That book I mentioned taught me this.

In the end you problems are your own, nobody will help you pretty much ever, and when things really get rough you will rise to the challenge or die. I mean that in a good way

>>33245225
> NHK
Yeah, I've watched some of the anime, top tier.

This is actually pretty good advice. I mean, I'll try to get better I guess, but I suppose I'm having enough fun right now without changing anything huge. I'll try and get better at art, trying to set up an Etsy to hopefully sell some custom dakimakura in the future. I've ordered some but haven't arrived yet.