Thread 33233285 - /adv/ [Archived: 1575 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:17:53 AM No.33233285
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Are there any drugs that actually work for combat related PTSD?
Seem like they will feed us anything, but it's like we are guinea pigs
We're all abusing, but with no clear intent, we're guessing
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 1:59:10 PM No.33233534
yep, too bad it's illegal (MDMA)
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 2:09:24 PM No.33233542
>>33233534
MDMA is a bandaid "solution". You're basically inducing psychosis which makes you think everything is fine and okay and happy when it really isn't. Wait for that comedown to hit retard

I hate drugfags. Just admit you enjoy using drugs. Stop pretending like they're genuinely improving your life or something LOL or at least stop trying to convince others to ruin their lives/minds like you have
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 2:11:26 PM No.33233547
>>33233534
MDMA is a bandaid "solution". You're basically inducing psychosis which makes you think everything is fine and okay and happy when it really isn't. Wait for that comedown to hit retard. Better yet, try using it more than once in a three week period and see how that leaves you feeling

I hate drugfags. Just admit you enjoy using drugs. Stop pretending like they're genuinely improving your life or something LOL or at least stop trying to convince others to ruin their lives/minds like you have
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 2:15:21 PM No.33233552
Your brain naturally produces all of the chemicals and fee good hormones (drugs), needed to keep you alive. With PTSD, your body is in crisis rn and in a state of fight, flight. freeze, and or fawn.
If able, do NOT turn to psychiatric drugs to bandaid a surface wound for a root system that needs tending to.
You can seek therapy that isn't traditional talk therapy like EMDR, Deep Pressure Therapy, Box Breathing, DBT/CBT, EFT Tapping, exercising, pet therapy, there are so many ways to cope. You are stronger than your thoughts. You are an observer of your trauma, you are not the embodiment of it.
However, if you're starting to truly go off the rails and you're on the brink of doing something stupid (like attempt suicide, self harm, any self injurious act), search up your local crisis line (usually a 3 digit phone number), and they can talk you down from your temporary state of mind.
For the long-term, if you can, find sliding scale therapies, search up in your free time any coping skill and *actually* try a few out when you're having a flashback, and while you're aren't in that state, and then consider big pharma drugs.

You're going to be okay, brother. Take it one day at a time.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:08:08 PM No.33234060
>>33233547
MDMA improved my life a decade ago. But there are a lot of burnouts who abuse it.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:39:27 PM No.33234153
>>33233285 (OP)
Laaaaaaame LARP.
VA Mental health providers have a clear list of approved medications for PTSD, not 'feed you anything'.
And the majority of veterans diagnosed with PTSD never go on medication for it.
Your concern trolling sucks, civilian loser.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:40:37 PM No.33234157
>>33233285 (OP)
mdma, psilocybin, lsd
Don't do it alone though, as it won't work without a therapist or a guide. MDMA puts you in a state where you can talk openly about whatever trauma without being affected as much. I don't know how effective it is. Doing it alone is risky as that faggot >>33233547
pointed it out. Some guys did shrooms alone for weeks until it worked.
>we're guessing
It's kinda true, I don't have any other experience. Just trial and error until something works
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:08:39 PM No.33234256
>>33233547
I see you've never read a single article about MDMA and the miraculous effects it has has on PTSD.. let alone psychedelics in general and their effects on mental health

>I hate drug fags
Im about the most vanilla person when it comes to drugs (except i dont knee jerk hate them) yet I cured my major anxiety disorder 8 years ago with one good dose of LSD.
Does this sound like a "bandaid"? Do I sound like a "drug fag"?
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:24:55 PM No.33234560
>>33234256
yeah you do. You're peddling your one good anecdote as if there aren't massive risks, or as if your one good experience is the guaranteed outcome. "One good dose of LSD" can also fuck someone up for months, or even life. I would never recommend it to someone with OCD for example.
The same goes for MDMA. "One good dose" - just one - can lead to months/years of depersonalization/derealization, or even full blown psychosis.

i don't care if you want to promote psych/X use, but i do care if you do so carelessly. Like i'm aware of the potential benefits. Are you aware of the risks?
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:33:19 PM No.33234615
>>33234560
It's not just an anecdote.. its extremely well documented and studied that psychedelics have these effects. The FDA has been doing trials for some time on them..

Again, you haven't read a single article on this, we can tell. Youre going off a say no to drugs psa you heard in 2nd grade.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:35:14 PM No.33234628
>>33234560
Also
>risks
Like what? You going to tell me it can cause psychosis, schizophrenia etc? Because they sure can, if you have predisposition to it. But then, if you have an underlying predisposition to those kinds of disorders, alcohol, weed, fuck, even a really stressful week can also trigger it.

I know this is going to blow your pants way off, but, people do read, people do have knowledge of these things, people do think critically.
Ironically youre the one not doing so in this case.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:55:00 PM No.33234748
>>33234615
>say no to drugs psa you heard in 2nd grade
I'm going off of my own years' worth of experience and the fact that i experienced months of nonstop derealization after rolling off 150mg once + seen two close friends develop psychosis. One of which was eventually diagnosed with schizophrenia.

Fuck your studies dude. I've read them all. I'm sure the academics who conducted said studies wouldn't be impressed by you insinuating that these things are somehow low-risk (especially in the context of recommending them to someone who's suffering from severe PTSD). The wife of the man who originally synthesized MDMA, Ann Shulgin, probably wouldn't be too impressed either (but I'm guessing you've never read a word she's written). Like I'm acknowledging the potential benefits, despite everything. For you to sit here and spout all of this dismissive bullshit (and even go as far as insinuating that the risk of psychosis from stress or alcohol use is comparable to the risk of psychosis from LSD/MDMA use) is fucking retarded and ignorant
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:13:30 PM No.33235172
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EthwxA_2lFQ
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:19:45 PM No.33235208
>>33233285 (OP)
I hear micro dosing shrooms, MDMA, and DMT has effects.

Also and I know this sounds retarded but Arma 2 the video game has been used for therapy. It has a senior builder that can replicate actual gun fights. By re living battles in a semi realistic way some how helps to the brain properly file and comprehend the events and this can reduce the stress... Like exposure therapy.

Years ago the military was playing with more realistic VR set ups that were far more scripted and it had massively positive effects for PTSD.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:39:25 AM No.33235745
>>33233285 (OP)
Mushrooms
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:40:33 AM No.33235748
>>33233285 (OP)
https://youtu.be/_zpe_G8_k1s?si=dGD1LSAcQ9CCZ63Q
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:42:44 AM No.33235755
>>33233285 (OP)
Mushrooms
https://youtu.be/j6ZLr1Ye2rM?si=KkO7wF14wXK-clA8
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:43:14 AM No.33235758
>>33233285 (OP)
I don't have combat PTSD but I take blood pressure medicines to reduce my anxiety, and another type of blood pressure medicine to stop flashback nightmares and reduce the intensity of nightmares. The daytime blood pressure med was chosen because I didn't tolerate the side effects of antidepressants and antipsychotics. The nighttime one was chosen after I complained about nightmares. I needed to find the right type of psychiatrist, who in my case was always a Hindu male. Even then, the ability of popping pills to solve your problems is limited. They can mitigate symptoms in some cases, like in my case and possibly your case. They won't solve your entire problems.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:43:52 AM No.33235761
>>33233285 (OP)
Mushrooms
https://youtu.be/dJsoeDbn3A8?si=5Fjcn1bDjtg1ORs3
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:37:06 PM No.33239577
OP here
>>33233547
I have mild psychosis, but MDMA isn't really a cause of psychosis. That misconception comes from serotonin syndrome. If you're not taking MDMA habitually psychosis isn't a realistic concern.

>>33233552
Clinical services are mainly aimed at stopping me killing other people, they aren't genuine support services. and general anxiety/depression support is good, I won't say anything bad about it, but I have 12 hours of concurrent nightmares every night and its just not enough. I have the full gamut of sleep/wake disorders.
7AM I'm getting bayonetteted by the devil, 8:30 alarm goes off and I'm trying to shit, shower and shave. And everyone at work says I look tired. I wish I was tired.
>>33234153
Maybe some people LARP here, I don't know. NSA 2014-22, that's pre-ukraine, Eurasia, north Africa
no secret we were there.
>>33234157
if you have PTSD I wouldn't recommend psychedelics, acid fucked my up pretty badly. they say you get flashbacks, but they don't consider what those flashbacks would be of.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:38:07 PM No.33239578
>>33234628
psychosis is already a secondary of alcohol withdrawal, and several of the anti anxiety drugs they prescribe us. Also a secondary o canabis (I don't smoke) and a secondary of parasomnia. what usually takes out vets is primary substance abuse; secondary psychosis.
Psychosis isn't schizophrenia, it's usually related to higher cognitive function deficits, sleep deprivation, meth, amphetimines, but also PTSD and paranoid anxiety.
>>33235208
I don't suffer combat trauma, so for me it's neither here nor there. And the MDMA is recommend because it triggers an empathy response, but if your'e reading, strongly recommend against psychelict. I've seen hell, the psychiodelic version of that was even worse. You' think you've had bad trips, oh boy do I have news.
>>33235758
A lot of guys are taking Praz0sin off-label. they aren't really blood pressure medicines.
It hurts listening to these guys, I was in a lot of those theaters
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:02:23 PM No.33239641
So we were taking a MAOI X halucinogen cocktail in the field back in 2010 because the local fighters were taking it.I wouldn't recommend it. I would say that about 10% of the people who took it died or suffered major psychotic episodes, among most people reports were mixed, I just had a strange out of body experience. It wasn't clinically significant I just tripped out. Anything can be medicine, but I wouldn't recommend this as medicine.

DMT was better on the whole, because it helped few people but didn't cause acute psychosis in at least anyone in my company. None of these are effective treatments. If you're desperate, your call, but that's the only reason people would do it. in the field it was a cultural experience, part of the posting, not intended to be medicinal.

Having 12 hours of nightmares every night, for 5 years, I would say hallucinogens made that considerably worse, my nightmare now invade my waking perception, it's psychosis but at the low end.