I hadn't had my first kiss up until recently and I am 30 unfortunately. Anyway, I had been on two dates with her and she kissed me at the start of our second date. Not even at the end. Externally I did like it but internally I felt upset and defeated. Mostly because I had built up in my head of what my first kiss would be like. I had already sort of planned it and I was basically going to try and kiss her at the end of the 4th or 5th date. I wanted it to be me initiating it so I could finally show myself that I am capable of doing something like that. However, she ruined it all and kissed me first. Unfortunately things didn't really pan out and she chose not to see me again 2 dates after that. Which maybe was my fault because I wouldn't return her texts until a day after sometimes. She told me she felt like I was distancing myself but I think I naturally may be a distant person. I am not sure because I don't date much. What I need help with is processing feelings like this and just figuring out how I should act. I think I just don't know how to function when it comes to dating or romance or even kissing. When she kissed me I wasn't ready at all and people told me I should be able to feel when the first kiss is coming and I can't. So I just feel really lost in it. It also probably doesn't help that I think I am an autistic freak who is lucky to get any attention from women.

You got a kiss, you're already ahead of most anons. View it as a victory.

>>33235405 (OP)
you fumbled. you could have had your "initiating" moves proven to yourself by power fucking her over the next several months. Reflect on your ego and try again

>>33235405 (OP)
If you're waiting until the 4th or 5th date to kiss, she's going to get bored and leave you. Anyway, you're acting like a schoolgirl. Grow up.

>>33235962
How soon do people normally kiss?

>>33236016
normies will expect date 1. shy guys and girls will expect date 3. women who manipulate men and scared autist men (we were all here at some point, no judgment) will wait forever for different reasons.

>>33236025
I don't understand how people kiss on date 1. How is that possible if you just met them that day for the first time from like online dating or something?

>>33236036
I dont really know. I have never done it myself. I could have done it with this brazilian girl but it was my first date ever and I was too scared. I didnt even do it with my ex and we ended up having crazy physical chemistry. I dont even think we even touched the whole first date kek

>>33236036
same way people get tattoos and get drunk and get in strangers' cars, and get pregnant with randos
low inhibitions and impulsiveness
these people have like 90% of the sex, though
they actually have fun with life

>>33236540
>they actually have fun with life
They're also the ones with crippling debt and minimum wage jobs.

Imagine how you'll react to sex(if any)

OP is way overthinking it but I'm dating a girl (we see each other every week and talk daily) but she's a conservative Christian girl and we talked about it and are not going to kiss for a while. I know a guy who didn't kiss his wife until 6+ months.
Sorry this didn't go as planned but I think you should be happy that this girl is into you and isn't passive like a lot of girls are.

>>33236540
>they actually have fun with life
doubt

>>33235405 (OP)
On the next date, kiss her your way and consider it your first kiss to her.