Do insects have feelings? - /adv/ (#33235785) [Archived: 1593 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:50:19 AM No.33235785
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I always feel terrible when I have to kill them
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:56:12 AM No.33235807
>>33235785 (OP)
Animals definitely have feelings. They have neurotransmitters, avoid pain, etc. The question is whether they have the sort of conscious experience that you have, or a separate but equally valid form of conscious experience, which would mean you might have a moral obligation not to hurt them.

Moralizing something this much is bad for you in a way. There were religions that thought all objects had souls and then basically couldn't walk because they were afraid of hurting grass, bugs, and even rocks.

You might be wondering if you can prove insects or invertebrates have conscious experiences. You can't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that other people have conscious experiences. This has serious implications for AI because it means we will likely never know if and when it achieves sentence. It could achieve sentience without being able to prove it to us.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:08:08 AM No.33235978
>>33235807
Bugs, or insects, don't have feelings in the way humans or other complex animals do. Their nervous systems are far simpler, lacking the brain structures—like a prefrontal cortex—that process emotions in mammals. Insects operate primarily on instinct and basic sensory responses, driven by neural networks that handle survival tasks like feeding, mating, and avoiding danger. Studies show they can exhibit behaviors that might look like emotions, such as stress responses in fruit flies or apparent "fear" in cockroaches avoiding predators, but these are likely just adaptive reflexes, not conscious feelings.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:10:55 AM No.33235986
>>33235785 (OP)
They don't have feelings, I don't kill them without need.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:12:11 AM No.33235991
>>33235978
That's the same system of emotions humans have. Humans are of course more intelligent and I've been working under the assumption that we're all sentinet.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:14:33 AM No.33236002
Probably not anon but you sound like you have a kind soul for even thinking that, the world needs more people like you
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:23:17 AM No.33236034
>>33235785 (OP)
Better question is how do you kill the bugs in nightreign?
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6/18/2025, 2:26:52 AM No.33236047
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with r-selected species basically you just kill the ones acting outside of heaven's mandate

if one disgusts you, kill it. this, insects around you will act exactly one unit less in such a way that disgusts you, and their family will grow in such a way that accounts for this empirical data

if it helps: their parents will ALWAYS do the same!
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:28:22 AM No.33236053
>>33235991
Humans have complex emotions tied to consciousness and brain structures like the prefrontal cortex, enabling self-awareness and nuanced feelings. Insects, with simple nervous systems and far fewer neurons, show adaptive behaviors like stress or "fear," but these are likely reflexes, not conscious emotions. Sentience requires subjective experience, which insects lack evidence for, unlike humans. Their "emotions" are mechanistic, not comparable to our rich, aware experiences.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:30:53 AM No.33236066
>>33235807
Human brain is developed and very complex, The monkey brain is closer to human brain but it lacks 99.9% of the advanced consciousness and complexity of the human brain

Now see other mammals which have adapated and go down to insects and there you go, But regardless i believe killing insects for no reason is immoral, it's better to kill when there is some sort of disturbance
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:33:10 AM No.33236081
They are arguably satanic entities and you're doing gods work by killing them. Not spiders though. That is sinful, but easily forgiven
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:39:53 AM No.33236097
>>33235785 (OP)
Mammals and birds have feelings but you aren't bothered by how we treat them. What makes bugs special, just that you're killing them yourself instead of letting other people kill them for you?
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:41:04 AM No.33236101
>>33235785 (OP)
I believe cats do really exhibit personality and even are more relatable than monkeys, They seem to be very narcissistic and have this awareness of their look and seem to take advantage of humans and have this sort of grandiose (all in positive way), it's as if they recognize a bigger person and just switch from feral into a good cat.

There is cats that really fear and just are scared, there is bullies and there is cats that are extremely narcissistic and there are the very energetic, the clown cats...

It just seems like they know what they're doing and they don't have to prove it to us, of coursr they're not socially constructed as humans and cannot learn like humans do at a very young age, Humans have adapted a way to make children learn fast znd they're linear only for humans, Cats have their own ways of growing and this way is natural but again maybe cats perceive humans and in yhis perception develop personalities or it's just how they are, They could learn but again like meowing it's the social construct...
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:42:06 AM No.33236104
>>33235785 (OP)
Ask yourself why do you kill a cockroach but do not kill a bee ?
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:57:50 AM No.33236148
>>33236002
thanks man
S
6/18/2025, 3:13:26 AM No.33236195
>>33235785 (OP)
Yeah just be better now and feel less bad knowing they invaded your territory and you are a stupid animal