I still live with my parents since they worry about me a lot. I don't go out a lot or talk to people, because I always felt kind of weird in my own skin.

I experimented with gender stuff, and got far enough to get some testosterone, but it went missing from my room and my parents confronted me with an intervention because they thought I was hurting myself with it.

They're mad, and I'm feeling pretty down because it's like they're denying me the chance to become the guy I want to be because they're stuck in an old fashioned sort of mindset.

I don't imagine most of you guys are trans, which puts you in the same boat as my mom and dad. If your daughter said they want to transition to become a man, what could they do to convince you it's the right choice?

>>33241232 (OP)
Nothing would convince me that something so plainly and obviously wrong was the right choice. I would take her camping for a few weeks to attempt to disconnect her from ZOG brainwashing. If that failed, I would disown her.

>>33241275
What's a zog? Do you feel like transitioning isn't valid or just that it could never be valid for your daughter?

>>33241232 (OP)
>If your daughter said they want to transition to become a man, what could they do to convince you it's the right choice
Turn 18, move out, pay all "his" own bills. Being a man means taking control of your own destiny. Trying to convince your parents to support your gender change is femme-brained thinking.

>>33241753
I don't feel like it's too big off an ask for some support. I don't have all the stuff I need to feel like a guy yet, like I don't have my testosterone shots anymore...but also like I never got a masculine puberty or anything go teach me about being a boy. If your son did move out and support himself would you accept him as your son?

>>33241232 (OP)
>If your daughter said they want to transition to become a man, what could they do to convince you it's the right choice?
Honestly? Nothing. Even if I can grudgingly accept it, I would be grieving terribly. And I would still think it's the wrong choice.

>>33242545
Why would it hurt you so much? Your daughter isn't gone, he's just becoming your son.

>>33242997
If I had a daughter who wanted to troon, or did troon, I would still look at her as my daughter. Nothing she did or said would change that. I wouldn't call her my son or call her a he. I wouldn't play into the disillusion.

>>33243016
You really hate trans people so much you'd end having a relationship with your child over it?

>>33243668
You brainwashed/indoctrinated yourself into believing you want to become a man, it isn't really your fault, your parents are over protective. Get a job move out by yourself and look up forums of girls regretting transitioning into guys.

>>33243668
It's not ending anything. It's calling a spade a spade. If the troon can't take being called by their real gender, that's a problem with them.

>>33244182
Why can't I be a guy though? I just don't understand why that's making people so upset or why people are so strongly opposed to it. I'm changing myself not anybody else.
>>33244284
But it's your family. Don't you love your family enough to try to make them happy even if you don't always agree with what they're doing?

>>33244574
It's the same as having a family member who's addicted to drugs. You support the person, not the life choices. It's mental illness going unchecked and we just pretend like we're okay with it as a society when it's the rot destroying us

>>33241232 (OP)
You're not going to be happier as a short pudgy fake man with a weird froggy voice. As a pathetic awkward girl many people are by default kind and protective towards you in ways you don't even notice. You're going trade that to get treated like a creepy incel school-shooter. You will never be able to look another woman in the eye again without them scowling at you and treating you like a leper. Men who were nice to you because you are a girl will become men who bully you because you fail as a male and are the bottom of the social pecking order.

>>33241232 (OP)
>>33241972
you should try to socialize and find some sort of support network, maybe reconnect with old friends if you can

>>33244785
I just feel like I was meant to be a guy. I tried dating another girl and we were a couple for like two weeks and it was really fun compared to the guys I've dated since because she let me take the lead and be the guy in the relationship. I feel like it could have worked out but she said she needs to date a guy and it all fell apart.

>>33241275
>If that failed, I would disown her
What good does the disowning do

>>33241232 (OP)
If my daughter had a history of doing such stupid/crazy/unhealthy shit that I can't even trust her to MOVE OUT because she needs a permanent fucking carer to prevent her from doing stupid shit, why the FUCK would I suddenly trust her when she says "mum, I'd really love to cut my tits off. I'm a man". I can't even trust the silly bitch to do simple shit like 'force herself to go outside and talk to people'. You know - basic fucking self care for anyone dealing with anxiety.
If I found out that she's been taking pills that could sterilise her and do permanent damage to her body - on a whim for an 'experiment', no less - I'd have her committed. Because she's a fucking lunatic.

If you want to convince your parents that this is the right choice, you MUST prove that you are reliably capable of making healthy, informed choices. You need to prove that you can be trusted.
Drop the tranny bullshit for now. Focus on finding fulfilment in other areas of your life. Make good choices regarding your health. Improve your life and act like a proper fucking adult. Get a job. Get into schooling. Idk. Do whatever you need to do.

When you finally have your mental health where you need it, you might not even feel like a man anymore. And if you have a PROBLEM with me saying that, then that is pure fucking evidence that you are just fucking lying to yourself in the first place. Any true transgender person would wish to GOD that this body horror would magically disappear.
If you still feel like a man, then at least by that point your parents will probably trust that you are capable of making the right choice. Or you would have been trusted to move out on your own, by which point, it doesn't matter what they think.

TL;DR: touch grass

>>33246027
So I:be been drinking and this might be rude than I would normal write and I apologize for that but I would not want to be a guy if it felt like guys now were worth a crap! Guys are so awful now, all they want is sexual and they will lie and do whatever they have to to get it but then they treat you like crap and they are just gone when you need them and I'm sick of counting on me.ln. if men aren't any good anymore I can be the man aI need and I can be that man for someone else too

>>33246071
>>33241232 (OP)
It doesn’t sound like you’re actually trans but that you just have a shit life and some part of you thinks this will change that. It won’t, it will make things worse, and the people you will start hanging around with are some of the most messed up people you will meet. Like if the choice is between trannies and schizophrenics I would see what type the of schizophrenics first. I’ve spent a lot of time within and on the periphery of those groups, and they are not happy or well adjusted people. I would suggest you move out, or at the very least attempt to get a life that doesn’t involve your parents or being terminally online. Believe me, if you can improve the other metrics of your life the thoughts or desires to be trans will dissipate and eventually disappear. The truly trans people are the ones who’ve thought they were since they were like toddlers and shit. If this is a new phenomenon for you, then you aren’t really trans you’re yrying to fill a psychological hole in your life.

>>33246071
How the fuck would you know? You don't go outside or talk to people.
Most men have their shit together. They are lovely. They aren't abusive. They aren't sex pests. You only think so poorly of men because you are terminally-online and the only men you regularly interact with are ALSO terminally-online. Half of the insane posts are usually by shills anyway. They're not real.

This is why I encourage you to leave the house and touch grass. You're delulu

Log off. Get some healthier hobbies.

>>33246071
No half decent semi sane woman is going to want a trans man. There are guys out there who will want a normal relationship with a woman, you just have to maybe lower your standards and hold on the sex for a while and see how they respond
But trooning out will only make things worse for you don-t be stupid

>>33246100
It really sucks to admit but you might have a point. I had a job for a little while but I didn't handle it well when a guy from school kept showing up there and trying to talk to me during my shifts. I'll see what else I can find but I like feeling like I have control over everything the way I do when I'm at home.
>>33246105
I know men are sex pests because I've been around guys before. The one I mentioned from my old job kept trying to walk me home at the end of my shifts but I know he was just horny.
>>33246113
I feel like my loved experience as a woman would make me more emotionally healthy as a partner after I transition into being a guy, and I feel that women will appreciate that vulnerability that other men are too repressed to let show.