If you're going to have sex with someone and you'd prefer not to use a condom, what is the etiquette for that? Do you just go ahead and not use one and wait for her to say you need to otherwise it's fine? Or do you always take one out and she's in charge of whether you don't have to use one? I feel like asking ahead of time kinda ruins the vibe.

Make her so horny that she lets you do it without one. (Not joking)

>>33245434 (OP)
what do you need advice on

>>33245443
I'm asking how do you communicate that you don't need a condom without directly asking? I feel like most times someone has sex without one they aren't asking ahead of time.

>>33245458
if i give you an answer you have to think of me when you're not using a condom

>>33245434 (OP)
just say you have HIV and want to poz her neghole

>>33245503
are you a woman?

>>33245583
no i'm a man. you should even use a condom with virgins.

>>33245595
well I'm not a pedophile and nobody over 18 is a virgin so your advice is worthless. Unless you're a woman or going to give helpful advice, please fuck off my thread then.

>>33245458
>I'm asking how do you communicate that you don't need a condom without directly asking?
bitchmade female tendencies

you are a man you don't sneak around trying to trick someone into what you want. you make your preference known and move on if there's incompatibility

>>33245658
I'm not trying to trick anybody, retard. I'm just saying that I'd rather not use condoms but I have no problem using them if the girl is not ok with that. So I'm just asking how do you know if she's ok with not using them without directly asking as doing that ruins the vibe. I'll ask if I have to but it seems like most people don't and just go ahead without a condom unless she states otherwise but I don't want her to be uncomfortable with that.

>>33245686
NTA, but he's right. Stop being a pussyfootin' bitch. Women are the gatekeepers of sex, so protection is HER responsibility. Your job is just to fuck. Asking women questions about their preferences is the gayest thing on Earth. Source: all women.

>>33245434 (OP)
girls that have condomless sex off the table at all mention condoms as you two are taking your clothes off, so you can go a buy some if you don't have any
girls that might strongly prefer condoms ask for one when they see you hard after foreplay or blowjob or something
girls that would prefer a condom but are open to doing it without one usually ask you if you're not going to put on a condom as you're about to enter into her.
And then there are girls who never even mention condoms
those are also divided in three groups
the ones that ask you to finish outside as you two are starting to fuck raw
the ones that ask you to out it out as they see you reaching climax (the most of the times get mad if you finish inside but their anger subsides as you pay for her plan b)
and the ones that love when you creampie them.

this in my personal experience, I've fucked around more than 40 girls by now.

>>33245718
I mentioned that in my OP question. Always use a condom unless she states otherwise is your answer. That's all you had to say instead of accusing me of being malicious.

>>33245730
so basically your camp is "the girl will mention condoms if she needs them otherwise you can assume you don't need one".

>>33245756
Nobody accused you of being malicious, we accused you of being feminine. Only women and cowards aren't direct.

>>33245434 (OP)
Just before you put it in, say "I'm fine without using a condom but I've got one if you want?". It's not going to ick her unless she's deranged. It doesn't make it less sexy. It lets her be as comfortable as she can be, which will actively let her be hornier.
You can also just sort of see what happens and pause just before you put your cock in and look at her, and if she gives no objection go in. But it's better to ask. There's been a few times when I've asked and the girl's gone "yeah please" with like this relieved sigh because she was willing to go bareback but felt real tense about it and it always makes the sex so much better.

>>33245658
He knows if he says it outright shes going to immediately say no. Best bet would be to either get her so horny she forgets or get her a bit tipsy so she also once again forgets about it. If you ask any woman sober about wearing a condom they will always say yes just because that's the etiquette with sex. Even if you are married, they are terrified of kids and they read a bunch of shit about men cheating all the time(like 80% of guys even have the option to lol) so they just play it safe with a condom all the time.

Get her some wine or learn to eat pussy really good. Only two options.

>>33246002
I should also add a lot of women view sex as a chore and something they are guilted into doing. Not because they are asexual, but because they want to have sex with only a small percentage of guys. In the past they sort of had to deal with this but today they get to be a bit more choosey but this mentality still hangs regardless if she needs money or has some other motive. So when you ask "can i not use a condom" you are asking to go beyond the norm, and beyond the bare minimum. There is now actual risk, plus she is making a guy she finds gross biologically, happier, which is a problem. A guy cant be too happy with her because that grosses her out.

This is another reason why OP cant just outright ask, he has to get around her brain that is constantly telling her she wants him dead but due to society she has to deal with him in bed.

>>33246002
I already stated I have no problem using condoms and my issue is just being on the same page as her. Some women don't care about not using condoms and some always want them so I was just asking what's the best way to make sure they are ok with non-condom use as I don't want them to be uneasy and feel like they have to go along with not using one because the guy wants to. I don't want to outright ask because it feels like it ruins the mood a bit but if I have to then it's fine to find out if she's ok or not with it.

>>33246053
When you are kissing her and fingering her whisper in her ear if she wants you to put on a condom or is fine without one. Just saying, hijack her brain in the moment. That is the only way ive ever had bare sex.

>>33245434 (OP)
Put the condom on in the beginning and part way into sex ask if she cares if you take it off. Condoms make it feel shittier for the woman as well so a lot of the time they're okay with taking it off ime.

>>33246055
personally i never mention it and when they ask for it i say i dont have one and they let me keep going

>>33245767
well with the girls I saw as a potential health risk I ended up putting the condom without being asked lol but yeah, basically I wait for them to mention the condom before I obligue because I'm very much into raw sex.
I've even slipped out of houses of girls I saw as not clean/healthy enough to do it raw even if they were hot.

You shouldn't have sex with girls that you wouldnt be somewhat okay with inpregnating potentially

>>33247337
That's true.

>>33245434 (OP)
>If you're going to have sex with someone and you'd prefer not to use a condom,
...then you're an idiot.

>>33245730
out of all posts sharing stories that didn't happen, your last sentence didnt happen the most

Guys, my stance: don't have sex outside of marriage, so you never need condom anyway.

Contraception is evil. Contraception is the root of abortion. You don't even have to be relligious to be aware of the fact that contraception made it possible to separate sex from procreation in society's massive mind. That was the thing that led us to abortion being acceptable for many people. Fight it. Oppose it. Resist.

>>33247881
just because you don't have sex outside of marriage you think it's impossible for the rest of us?
some of us are manwhores, what's so hard to believe, not everyone is a terminally loser r9k poster who's never even touched a boob
I find it funny that you think just because you behave in some way the rest of people can't possibly behave in any other way.

>>33248005
it's not impossible, it's just a way to NOT be followed bro.

I am married btw. and my wife is a kind of woman which is unachievable for "manwhores" of any kind which makes liberal lifestyle total lose of life and timewaste.

You can behave in other way, but its just stupid and it leads you nowhere.

>>33248040
Kek. Expecting anyone to believe that a virgin fetishist like you could ever get a woman and marry her. Much less a high quality one.

>>33245434 (OP)
Women don't like condoms either so just ask if she wants to use one. She'd only ever say yes if disease or pregnancy were real concerns, and in those cases YOU should want to use one as well.

Of course some women lie and want to trap you with a baby but those are the games we play

I am a 34 yo virgin and can't imagine any woman ever wanting sex from me. Why do you normalfags exist in 4chan

>>33248464
Why do you trash on normal people?

>>33248464
of course we come here for reasons, they're just not YOUR reasons
me for example I behave like a model citizen the whole day, if I was found standing next to a dead body most people would immediately discard me from the suspect lists, everyone trusts me and I'm cherished by people around me
but of course no one is that perfect and in my case things like liking 18yo girls as a 40yo man or being incredibly classist and thinking poor people is little better than animals in secret are reasons I come here, I would never say those things out loud, even if I constantly date people younger than me they always think its just because of my personality and the kind of people I get along, not because I actually get sick at the thought of being in bed with someone my age.
etc etc.
I mean I'm not a normie I just act like a normie most of the day.
also I have sex regularly but I still don't understand how you guys don't get any, it's not that hard, it's a little harder than organizing a succesful barbeque if you ask me.

>>33252731
>but I still don't understand how you guys don't get any, it's not that hard
Having good social skills and an active social life is what makes it easy but it's also a huge barrier to those without it. It's like how its easier to make a lot of money once you're already rich but getting rich in the first place is the hard part.

>>33245458
>I'm asking how do you communicate that you don't need a condom without directly asking?
Oh, don't be retarded. The *only* way to communicate this is to directly ask. You're going to need to get an STI test and show the other person the results. You can't do that via hints. You're going to have to ask about their STI status. And if you're a man and she's a woman, you're going to have to explicitly verify that she is using some other, reliable, form of contraception.