At what point is a life so ignoble or wasteful that it is the more honorable/moral thing to end it all?

if God hasn't killed you, you are still yet of use

>>33245607
God has tried.
Man intervened.

>>33245597 (OP)
if you are asking the question as to whether suicide is honorable or moral you aren't ready to kill yourself. An actually suicidal person wouldn't care about anything like that, they'd just want the pain to end.

>>33245597 (OP)
When you're a blind, deaf, quadriplegic vegetable. I'm assuming you are nowhere near that though, you're probably just a normal dude who lives in a basement and has no friends which isn't exactly a situation you can't recover from

That point does not exist in any absolute or objective sense. The question itself assumes that life’s value is only conditional upon certain achievements, dignities, or social recognitions, but that’s a human framework of the worst ideologies of the 20th century. human life has infinity dignity and worth and no one becomes a worthless eater or wrecker because of some lack of meritocratic worth, masculine pride, romantic failure, or economic uselessness.

We literally have evidence of a quadraplegic Vietnamese person who lived 140000 years ago and survived at least 8-10 years after the neck injury. Even cavemen knew basic morality.

>>33245620
And if I do want the pain to end?
What if I have autism that holds me back from what part of me deems as irrationality?
>>33245647
>you're probably just a normal dude who lives in a basement and has no friends
Quite the opposite. I'm fairly successful the point that I have almost no time to myself, but take very little pleasure in anything that is given. Even when trying something new.
>>33245678
>life’s value is only conditional upon certain achievements, dignities, or social recognitions, but that’s a human framework of the worst ideologies of the 20th century
But what if its true? What if we're ultimately all just useless economic units?

>>33245737
when's the last time you were in a lot of pain?

>>33245855
Prior to today?
Closest time I would say is a little over 12 years ago when I took enough pills to kill me but somehow still woke up the next morning.

>>33245855
it's a rhetorical question, anyway
getting over something debilitating can be a feast of pleasure to just have won yourself back

a crazy thing to tell someone suicidal-adjacent, sure--but if you have no sense of peace and gratitude for all you've won maybe it's time to lose

and before you run away with that notion, my suggestion is to maybe open yourself to take some sensible risks that have a big upside, take more 20% chance opportunities if only to taste defeat at your own hands before a loss is assigned to you

>>33245597 (OP)
If you don't know then you haven't reached that point yet.

>I do not feel very cash money right now XD
At the point where you're posting SA-like millennial humor on /adv/ methinks

>>33245924
>take more 20% chance opportunities
Like what?