>be me
>meet random girl through instagram
>she seems into me and is dying to go on a date
>she doesn’t seem like gf material at all but I’m willing to do something short term (fuck)
>we go on our date tonight
>it goes well imo
>we both had a good time at a bar
>at the end, I paid for her Uber ride home. At this point, she seemed absent-minded
>when the Uber was on his way, she tells me if I can cancel the Uber and she’ll pay me back (she said she was invited to her friends’ house instead. Maybe she was seeing some other fucking guy).
>she then said nvm and agreed to take the Uber to her house
>she gets home and thanks me for the Uber and the night but that we are better off as friends
>i just react to her message with a thumbs up emoji.
Im surprised because i thought she was attracted to me but i guess not. I’m also not surprised because many women in the past said the same thing after our dates. It has to obviously be due to the fact that I’m short and average-looking but that’s a conversation for another thread.
The date costed me $138 (bar + her Uber). Should I ask her for that money back? I’ve been thinking about doing this to girls who have rejected me after dates in the past, but I feel really motivated to do it now. Is it a good idea? I can send her my email to e transfer me. I’m just so pissed and tired. I need to learn how to accept that I’m not attractive enough so I can stop interacting with women. This girl was mid like me and had less instagram followers than me but I guess Hoeflation is a bitch.

Don't just take the L and move on. I tried this with one whore one time and she threw a bitch fit.

Broke loser incel energy lmao. Imagine asking for $147 back LMAO, I can understand like 2-5k but holy fuck
If I were her I’d get major ick

>>33252928 (OP)
you're doing it out of bitterness tho so it's not a good idea and you know it
also it's not because of you being short or average looking as I'm a 6.5/10 and short and I've had plenty of succesful dates
if it was about your appearance she would have found a way to bail out of the date midway, the one that gets invited is brutal (I remember once an ugly chick asked me to dance, I didn't see her well under low lights but when we were dancing I pretended to go get a drink and never came back lol), so you'd know if it was about that
you have probably one or two red flags about your personality that shine when people talk to you for any ammount of time.

>>33252952
But you're tranny so it doesn't count unfortunately. Tough luck. :(

>>33252986
>>y-you’re a troon!
>>thinks I was implying I’m female
Holy kek at the broke boy OP still seething and coping that his whopping 138 back, what a high roller kek
So fucking over for broke incel spergs

>>33252993
ok troon

>>broke OP still malding
Imagine being ugly AND poor like pick a struggle roflmao
Muh 109 bucks roflkek

Based foid rejecring a brokie desu

>>33253003
yeah he's probably ugly and thinks he's average, as I said above I'm average looking and I've had many succesful dates
also kinda poor, I would never ask for money back even after a disastrous date, it was my idea to invite her out, what kind of no word pussy bitch would I have to be to walk back onto that and ask for money out of nowhere
a man is worth as much as his word.

>>33253021
That’s why you’re successful and he isn’t
Your mindset is the right one

lol

> broke
>short
>uggo

Lmao

.

>>33253021
Are you >>33252967

>>33252928 (OP)
you are so stupid lol

you don’t have to spend any money. invite a girl over to watch a movie, to play some video games, to go to a park near your house/apartment and drink some beer, invite her some weed, invite her some pizza.

idk, this is such an american behavior like why you have to spend so much money on a silly date lol

and asking money back it’s not only completely off limits and plain stupid and dismissive but also a social suicide. if this woman spread around the rumor that you ask woman your money back you will have to install grinder because no woman will be into you afterwards. it’s not a prostitute, she dosent owe u shit.

don’t be pathetic, plan cheap dates. work on your hurt ego

>>33253169
>this is such an american behavio
it's not an American

>>33252928 (OP)
>costed

>>33252928 (OP)
>ask money back after unsuccessful date

venezuelan behavior

>>33253180
My bad for the typo. I'm tired.

>>33253305
little worm

>>33252928 (OP)
You deserve what you got. I won't read past the beginning.

>>33253021
damn, roasties in shambles over petty cash

>>33254637
I'm a dude but I'm not broke, that's nothing for me
you ask your money back over an unsuccesful date to one girl and next thing you know your local facebook group of "are we dating the same dude" puts you on a blacklist, not to mention you're backing out of an invitation like a little no word bitch.
it just makes sense to let it go.

>>33252928 (OP)
If you voluntarily paid for these things then it would be wrong to ask her to reimburse you.

Dating etiquette has gotten way more complicated than it should be honestly. She definitely should have paid you back for the Uber though, she may do it if you ask. And if she thinks less of you for it, well, she's already shown that her opinion of you shouldn't really matter.

>>33254712
Like asking for a gift back. It's done.

>>33253000
Don't care if he/she is a fucking tranny. Completely correct. You are the type of nigga to give a gift to seem "nice", but then expect the same amount of value back. The girl owe you nothing.

>>33252928 (OP)
You didn’t try to fuck her and she took it as an insult. Your fault, your loss.

>>33255259
How do you figure that?

>>33255264
For as scary as it is to try to make a move and be physical, it’s much worse to be on a date and not treat it like such. Women have this strange desire to be crazily desired by a man powerless against her (look at women’s fiction to see this) - and you deny her that by not making the move, which she resents. She might not agree but she wants you to try.

I’ve done it too.

>>33255290
I just always have this feeling that no woman is attracted to me and therefore doesn’t want to get physical with me.

>>33255305
Well stop being a giant pussy then? If they even acknowledge you exist, you have a chance and you better by God try.

>>33255327
But how do you know this girl in particular wanted me to try and fuck her?

>>33255330
When I say all women, I mean all women.
Sexual desire is their most powerful agency, and at least subconsciously, they know it.

>>33255348
Funny you mention that. Before leaving the bar, the girl told me that she’s glad I didn’t just try and fuck her. I assume this was a lie, right?

>>33255358
You rejected her without even knowing it. Smh

>>33255363
Can you explain what you mean by that?

>>33255245
>nigga
Shut up shitskin nigger.

>>33254805
What happens when men put pussy on a pedestal and now every whore thinks they are special when they are a dime a dozen.

>>33255410
By not being overwhelmed by her attractiveness to the point you had to make a move, you made her feel worse about herself. Again, she may not accept your advances, but she wants you to try - it’s a means of validation.

>>33252928 (OP)
you need to have more fun man, that's why this keeps happening to you. Stop trying to be so polite and perfect. Stop worrying about fucking it up or weirding her out. Just be funny and tell her jokes and have fun or something

>>33255629
So how should I have behaved then?

>>33255435
I'm whiter than a piece of paper. But it is ok, you keep asking for payment for things you bought yourself.

>>33252928 (OP)
You guys are still doing dating ? That ship sailed for me the last year of masters when i just partied and made out and had sex with random girls ( never even kissed a girl before).
I literally never had a date though and never would want to have one. I am in my late 20s anyways. Women my age are pathetic, I am pathetic for not finding a girl back when they mattered, when I mattered.
Like I literally dont understand the mental process for going on dates. Are you seriously going to pay for a restaurant and some cringe wine because you assume it's a social convention ?

>>33257648
No one said the man has to pay. You can split it. OP payed VOLUNTARY and then complains after.

>>33252928 (OP)
OP here. I have two questions:
1) Would have really rejected me after the date if I were taller or better-looking, regardless of my behaviour.

2) Towards the end of the date as we were waiting for her Uber, she wanted to sit on a bench, and so we did. As we were sitting, she was just scrolling her Instagram and I was just running my fingers along her back. I noticed she scrolled onto a video of a shirtless jacked guy and the caption said something along the lines of “In case you neeeded to feel better after a long week.” I felt so pissed that I just stopped touching her. Did she disrespect me here? (This is what us non-chads go through btw).

>>33257648
I just go on dates in the hopes of having sex. I’m just horny.

>>33252928 (OP)
What would a rich alpha chad do?
He would never simp for a woman in the first place, but if he did, he would immediately go out with his hotter and better women on the side.

>>33258568
You can’t be serious kek