I'm not talking about the students who are working retail part time. I'm talking about the ones stuck working there for thirty years and that's their only career option. Are they retarded?

>>33260175 (OP)
At least they have a job OP. I respect them a hell of a lot more than I'd respect some NEET.

>>33260196
While I hate neets, I feel like having a job really isn't an accomplishment.

some people just have no ambition

>>33260401
Ya but what about the ones who are like I'm gonna be the king of retail and become the general manager?

>>33260361
then you just don't understand what words mean. finding employment when you are jobless is a task that can be achieved successfully. full stop

>>33260425
wannabe petty tyrants

>>33260427
So is putting the dishes in the dishwasher and turning it on an accomplishment? That's also a task.

>>33260175 (OP)
You work in order to live. You don't live in order to work. A job is not a person's defining characteristic. If a man has been holding down a job for a long time, and it's paying the bills so he can support himself, why does it matter what he's doing?

>>33260716
don't you want to advance?

>>33260175 (OP)
Some people don't have have the talent/aptitude for anything more.

>>33260716
>You work in order to live. You don't live in order to work.
This is always cope. Retail workers can't afford to live alone AND go on vacations or buy nice things without credit. What makes you okay staying stagnant in one role?

>>33260777
I work for the department of transportation. I genuinely love my job, and make more than enough money to live comfortably. State jobs highly sought after for a reason.

>>33260886
What makes you think I'm a retail worker? You can have a good job and retain basic human empathy.

>>33260175 (OP)
A person is not just what he or she does for a living. Very fortunate people find jobs that are enjoyable and fulfilling. The wisest among the rest consider the 40 hours a week they get paid for not who-they-are but just the means to buy the lives, identities and fulfilments that make up the other 128 hours

>>33260175 (OP)

It sucks but there's not always jobs and there's not always career options for people. They get stuck in crappy jobs or just get something to get an income.

It's going around these days. Don't judge, it could happen to any of us

>>33260175 (OP)
I don't think most of them are, but some are.

I dropped out of college and worked for 1.5 year at Dollar Tree and then Walmart in the middle of nowhere of Tennessee. That shit was depressing. I don't know how those people do that for their whole lives. Easily my lowest point in life and I was convinced I was gonna live in a trailer park with a busted up wife. I ended up joining the military to turn it around (I did). But I think the biggest reason they don't get a new job is a combo of no ambition, they don't know where to start, and they're content. They make enough money to survive, so why change? Why travel when they could just drive over to the local sushi spot instead of going to Japan?

>>33260716
No offense, but this is a bum mentality imo. You may view a job as a means to an end, but it's more than that to me and a lot of people, as it should be. By the time you retire you'll have invested years and years into your job and career. You should take care in it and challenge yourself to be better and develop. It helps to create a sense of fulfillment in your life and is a catalyst for creating goals for yourself. Sure, you may be content with your job and find fulfillment in your life in other ways, but how long will that last? How long can you clock in, do mindless unfulfilling work for 8 hours, clock out, and repeat 5 times a week?

>>33260175 (OP)
there's like a synergistic force were being poor makes you stupid and being stupid makes you poor

>>33260716
>A job is not a person's defining characteristic
FALSE. A person's job and their work ethic is the most important characteristic of someone.

They're not retarded, they're just either fine with it or (feel like) they have no other options. Some people are just long glad to work in a place where they like their coworkers, can deal with the work load and have stability. They would rather invest their energy in personal relationships or hobbies over continuing to get more responsibilities (and obligations/exams etc) at work. Plus higher up is not always better (ignoring pay for a second). If you're the kind of person who gets all their energy during work hours from the nice little interactions with coworkers or customers, getting promoted to a position where instead you will do a lot of administration and tell other people how to do their job means your new position is a lot more soul sucking still. Similarly some folks care a lot about being on their feet and moving a lot, have a hard time sitting in an office chair for the whole day without getting antsy.

If you have no real education, even if you are smart you will have to invest in additional courses, improving your professional network, improving your CV, getting great references etc to even have a shot at someone being willing to just give you a wholly different job which is significantly more complex. At the end of the day it's as simple as the person doing the hiring also preferring to take the easy/obvious solution (someone specifically qualified for and experienced in this kind of position) because then if they hire a fuck up, they can hide behind "I couldn't have known, they had all the right papers". Whereas if they go out on a limb and just take a chance that someone inexperienced will be worth the extra investment/risk, they look bad if they misjudged it.

So if you don't have a good resume and only worked retail on the lowest level and you want to do something new, you have to be prepared to invest lots of time/energy/cash into turning your career around. Plenty either cannot afford to lose that time and energy or don't find it worthwhile.