Unlawful, Unethical and Unfair - /adv/ (#33260923) [Archived: 1385 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:05:53 AM No.33260923
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Has anyone here been on the receiving end of extremely unlawful behavior that severely negatively impacted your life (and the trajectory thereof) with no hope for justice or reimbursement? If so, how did you cope and get over it?

Bonus points if it the actor or actors causing harm did so intentionally, and you know who they are (as distinct from just plain bad luck like a house fire or car crash, but there's undoubtedly value in advice from the bad luck gang too, so don't hesitate you unlucky gooners).
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:17:34 AM No.33260963
>>33260923 (OP)
I rented a room from a sublessor and he wrongfully withheld my security deposit. I sued him in small claims court (which literally took years because he dragged it out as much as possible) then when I won and got a judgment against him I couldn't even enforce it because the guy has literally no property in his name and has organized his entire life around being a deadbeat. That was a frustrating experience. I learned that even though the law grants tenants triple damages against landlords who wrongfully withhold deposits this is totally worthless because any landlord can just not return security deposits as a matter of course, then wait and see who actually sues them. Then if they actually show up to court the landlord can just "offer to settle" by giving you back your money at the courthouse steps. Only a fanatic or a zealot would continue to trial and then have to go out and try to locate their assets to be seized and sold by a marshal (who takes a percentage anyway). Just a ridiculous and predatory system. But hey at least I won my first case while I was still in law school.

Anyway, what's your issue?
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:37:33 AM No.33261275
>>33260963
That's cool, I've been thinking about going to law school after experiencing my issues. I'm reluctant to share since it will invite criticism despite me doing my best the entire time, and it's not really the focus of the thread. I more just want advice on how to get over it.

But basically what happened is (green text for concision) -- next response
>transfer from community college to uni (math/cs)
>relocate for uni and move back into mums (COVID online school ftw)
>also running business I transported, going well
>mums says she's moving out
>ok, take over mortgage, sign lease
>be junior/senior in uni, business just got 30x'd in terms of revenue through some big deals
>take out student and personal credit loans to expand and buy tons of equipment
>everything is absolutely cherry, revenue forecast is $200k/yr and once I graduate probably also get $100k+/year job
>mums randomly text me while I'm at work that she's moving back in six months after moving out (has a whole U-haul with all her stuff), against my will, despite us having a signed year lease and me paying rent for the month
>get home from work and she's moving in, tell her no, cops wouldn't do anything, couldn't get fast legal help cuz I'm not a minority
>takes $20k of my brand new equipment to landfill (honestly not a big deal, the next part was, but this is why I was telling her no, I needed more time she always throws my stuff away and this time it was serious and I knew I was in a fragile position)
>continually extorted me into paying her credit bills, threatening to throw the rest of my stuff away and lock me out if I didn't pay*
>goes on for 8 months, lost my ability to produce product for business, couldn't bounce back due extortion, couldn't afford to move out as I was fully invested and had just got put on probation at my job**
>she eventually moves out after 8 months, I lost all biz opportunities, didn't graduate and don't know how I'm going to now, permapoor
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:39:05 AM No.33261280
>>33260923 (OP)
I got fired because I made a complaint to law enforcement and that came back on the business.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:44:13 AM No.33261305
>>33261275
* Technically it was her credit card, but I was an 'additional user'. When my stuff got destroyed, I couldn't produce anything anymore but still had clients and supplies which expected product (and was still a viable form of income, just not as profitable), so I was just flipping stuff, but this made the cc bill blow up. She would pause it randomly since she concerned about the amount, and this would force me to pay my suppliers 60-90 days earlier than expected - catastrophic for a business. But I always kept enough to cover it (though it would put me in an emergency situation), so I told her I could pay it if I got a copy of the lease, but I couldn't afford to have no money and no living security simultaneously, but she always refused, until at the last minute she realized I wouldn't pay it, and it was a vicious cycle that made me lose everything.


**(I got a job at USPS prior to spending my money just to be safe, got in a minor accident and it took 2-3 months for them to get me back to work. I had ""investors"" who were explicitly supposed to cover me in the event I lose my job while investing (mostly for _their_ benefit, they were my friends) but they didn't do shit when I lost my job. But it put me in a weak position when my mum moved back in.

So basically she ruined my business and career in one fell swoop, due to being a menopausal demon and pure evil, and there's just no justice for me. I was on track to make $300k/yr, now I'm letting my debts go to collections and working for essentially min wage at USPS and getting my wages garnished by student loans, and my student loans mostly ended up in a landfill.

I just have a really hard time going to work sometimes. I was good at my business, it was what I'm best at and I was much better than competitors and it looks 6-8 years to build it to that point. Now I have absolutely nothing, just total scorched earth. Just wondering how others have dealt with the injustice the world provides.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:27:39 AM No.33261447
>>33261275
sorry to hear about your finances

law school worked out well for me, definitely recommend finishing your bachelors then doing it
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:31:05 AM No.33261457
>>33261305
>but she always refused
to be clear, refusal for her was threatening to throw the remainder of my stuff away and lock me out the house I had a lease on. I couldn't afford to give her my savings with a landlord like that, but if she provided a copy of our present lease I told her I'd be happy to do it.

It's a shitty story because it comes off as 'whining about your mom', so I feel I can't even vent about it. But I got completely ruined, straight extorted for nearly a year, ran me out of business, dropped out of college as a senior and now my wages get garnishes (and as a math major, I was very aware of the compounding interest). But it's completely insane. I got demonically blueballed by life. I had wholesale contracts, I was actually managing a separate business at the time too.


>>33261447
I'm just trying to recover enough to finish my undergrad then 'play it cool' as a 30 y/o doing a masters or something. I didn't;t realize until delivering mail at a law firm you can go to law school with any undergrad. I just hate that I couldn't help. And it's not just my finances but my life. I didn't want to be a wagie and sell my time, and I got myself out of that, and it was taken from me. Now I just have to 'have a good attitude' and try again, and it's hard. It's like the monkeys and the pit of despair.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:38:08 AM No.33261486
>>33261457
I mean can you imagine being 24 and, for the first time ever, not only taking out student loans, but maxing them out to accelerate a successful business? Then having those loans end up in the trash, and needing to take out personal loans just to survive and keep things afloat, only for everything to ultimately go under?

I'm exactly where I didn't want to be in life, through no fault of my own. It's completely maddening. I HATE being a wagie, and I invented a way out of it. But another person destroyed that for me and made me perma-wagie. And so I have to get up every morning, at nearly 30 years old, and deal with the exact life I spent my 20s trying to avoid.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:32:20 AM No.33261850
>>33261486
well the nice thing about having a law license is that its a very marketable and valuable thing, that will always give you the power to generate capital if you're an entrepreneurial minded person, as you clearly are. So if you have an interest in law I definitely recommend it. I'm taking the bar exam in July, but in September I have a job at a firm lined up (not an elite firm mind you) and I'll be starting at $175k with no prior legal experience. Yeah I'll still be a wagie, but one getting paid his worth, and then I can decide if I want to try to make partner and become a shareholder at the firm, or go out on my own.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:08:32 AM No.33261993
>>33261850
forgot to finish my point, which is that going to law school is expensive but one of the few degrees where you absolutely will be able to pay off all your debts quickly
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:43:34 AM No.33262078
every single day of my life (racism)
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:46:20 AM No.33262086
>>33260923 (OP)
my neighbor smokes awful drugs day in day out, from midnight to early morning that gets in the house doors/windows closed, that has destroyed my sleep, physical, and mental health. I'm forced to move because there's no law or bylaw even enforcing it, what he's doing is within legal limits, which is smoking out your neighbors as long as they can't identify the drugs. of course he denies everything talking to him, but the cause is so obvious and I don't know what I or the household I live in did to him to deserve this. this is going to impact my life majorly, because of the sleep issues I'm unemployed, can't get rent and am forced to move someplace against my desires which could put me in serious financial straits.

anyways I read your story OP, and while I don't have the mental bandwidth to comprehend everything I'm sorry for your situation. at the very least you have the capability to live an acceptable life even if you were robbed of a better one, it sounds like even if you failed from outside forces you have experience and people skills to even find success better than 90% of people around you.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:06:13 AM No.33265470
>>33261850
>>33261993
that's awesome, I'll probably do this after knocking out the last couple terms of my undergrad. pretty robust path to wealth and independence it seems like

>>33262086
sorry about your stinky neighbor
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:22:15 PM No.33266833
>>33260923 (OP)
>Has anyone here been on the receiving end of extremely unlawful behavior that severely negatively impacted your life (and the trajectory thereof) with no hope for justice or reimbursement?
Yes. I got injured on a military base and the codes relating to liability and compensation for such events don't cover individuals who aren't on that base under orders, or a dependent of someone there under orders.
If the situation and outcomes happened anywhere else I would have received a considerable payout from insurance coverages of the party at fault. I got nothing, and it took me a year to fully recover.
My sister had a similar situation and lost years of her life and part of her body due to medical malpractice by a military doctor. Suing the government never works out well for the plaintiff.
>If so, how did you cope and get over it?
You have to move on eventually or you're just sabotaging your own sanity over something you have no power to fix.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:40:34 AM No.33270712
>>33266833
>You have to move on eventually or you're just sabotaging your own sanity over something you have no power to fix.
Logically I'm aware, but it's difficult. Any tips? Thanks for stopping by my fellow ill-fated and sister-kun.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:41:37 AM No.33270719
>>33266833
Sometimes I think I'd be happier if I had amnesia, and it puts into perspective how unproductive my mindset is, but it's difficult to purely block out these thoughts. In particular I have the most trouble while waging, something I built my life around avoiding, especially at this age.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:55:06 AM No.33270762
>>33262078
racism is not a crime, jamal.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:59:47 AM No.33270784
>>33260923 (OP)
My mother claims a doctor used forceps to pull me out of her vagina. He used the tool improperly breaking my nose at birth. My nose is still broken and my ear clipped because poor.

My parents did not pursue any legal action then. I was only told when I was in middleschool. Tomuch time passed for me to pursue anything, and I was only a child.

There where no good actors in this story.

This was not the only time my parents basically ignored my bodily health as a child.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:25:10 AM No.33270919
>>33265470
make sure you do your LSAT well in advance. I learned the hard way that law schools are on an admissions schedule like 1 year in advance. They open in the fall for the following year, and admit on a rolling basis. So for instance if you wanted to go to law school in the fall of 2026 you'd need to have your application in before the end of the year.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:26:58 AM No.33270925
>>33266833
Youre supposed to call your congressman and have them pass a law ordering funds distributed to you directly from the treasury.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:29:59 AM No.33270941
>>33270712
There's no trick, you just mature and move on
You however don't actually want to move on, you just want to be angry because you like that feeling
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:09:15 PM No.33273487
>>33270919
What do you think about accounting vs law school? my dream would be to be financially comfortable and able to go to grad school for probability theory or something ml or ml adjacent while not needing to worry about employment prospects or tuition costs.

>>33270941
>There's no trick, you just mature and move on
I guess it just takes time. I spent nearly a year getting extorted and property destroyed, a year working 80-100hr weeks to recover (thinking I was recovering), then I finally went out of business after unexpectedly losing my only remaining sales channels a couple months ago. Being down, then almost back up, then down lower than ever before was really hard. I busted my ass for a year straight to recover and it just fell apart again (my only remaining wholesale unexpectedly account closed shop and moved out of state, and my retail channels got diluted).

>You however don't actually want to move on, you just want to be angry because you like that feeling
I don't, but ok. I liked feeling like I had momentum, and was on top of the world.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:26:22 PM No.33273556
>>33270762
yes it is. not everyone here lives in America, bubba
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:02:09 PM No.33273705
>>33260923 (OP)

My entire extended family tried to ruin my entire life and basically gang stalked and harassed me after my father died and left them nothing, and he didn't have very much to begin with. Got to the point where I was up for multiple days with a shotgun in his house just trying to collect his shit while they would stalk around and send people to try and get in. I ended up collecting all his valuables from his home but he had about 30k in sterling he had stashed at his parents house that I never recovered and was likely all gambled away by his mother at the casino

There's a lot more to the story and I carry a lot of pain and regret but the #1 thing you can do is never talk to or associate with cunts who have fucked you over ever again, and also eventually decided to stop talking to the rest of my family who "stayed neutral" about the situation.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:15:31 PM No.33273758
>>33260923 (OP)
Yeah at work. When I die they'll face their comeuppance