Learn to rate women. If you're being brutally honest, most of the women you simp for are probably not even above a 5 on the looks scale, and they know it. They've known it since they were little girls. But you treat them like they're untouchable goddesses because you're so used to having unresolved desire that it makes you think every girl you find attractive is unobtainable
Even if you're a sub 5 yourself you're probably not sub 4 unless you're intensely unattractive. Even then you can probably get yourself above a 4 with a little bit of looksmaxxxing. Once you're above a 4 or a 4.5 you can have your pick of women who are also 4-5.
4-5s aren't ugly. If they were ugly you wouldn't be attracted to them at all. It's just that their face is slightly below average, which is honestly something men don't really think about that much but women think about all the time. Men are so preoccupied with bodies that they ignore face but that's all women really use to rate each other, so if a woman is a 4.5 but still fuckable chances are she won't be upset when your ugly ass asks her out.

Take Olivia Rodriguo. She's a hard 5. Can't even call her a 5.5. But wait, you say out loud, millions of men fantasize about creampieing her multiple times in a row, surely that makes her a 9 or a 10, right?
No. Most people, especially most young people, are attractive. They are attractive because they are designed to stimulate a drive to reproduce with them in order to ensure the survival of their genetic code. Thus, 5, or absolute average, is attractive enough to generate intense lust.
The vast majority of people are between a 4 and a 6. If a woman were a 6.5, you'd think she was exceptionally attractive to the point she could be a movie star. Attractiveness isn't linear, it's exponential. Probably .1%, or even .01% of the population is a 9, not 10% like you'd think if it were linear.

>>33264717 (OP)
this OP has potential but starts from many falsehoods and still harbors a lot of resentment towards women.
most women guys simp over are usually around 7, unless you're talking to blue collar and trailer park trash guys, those guys lower their standards automatically, I don't know if they get told by their peers or something but you see them simp over fatsos and fetishize disgusting behavior like farts and stuff.
but for normal people most girls people simp over are 7s or 8s and the moment you treat them like every other person and break that barrier of untouchability you're on the other side already.
that of course if you yourself are not untouchable, a 3 trying to smooth himself into the pants of a 7 is taken as a creep lol, I've seen it happen countless times in clubs and even other more "looks don't matter" spaces like churches.
also a lot of people that post here are actually sub 4, don't give them false hopes of not being ones, have you seen the pictures they upload or the descrptions they give of themselves
extremely overweight, dirty, nasty grooming habits, terrible clothing sensilities, ugly faces, balding, aging, everything that can make a person ugly they have it
yes we have a handful of 18yo with body dismorphya but most regulars around here are here for a reason.
they have to lower their standards instead of trying to rationalize megan fox is actually a 5 or some other nonsense and justify their skewed beliefs that only chads date and fuck ugly girls and put actually pretty girls as an example.

>>33264732
lol I was exagerating about OP trying to say megan fox is a 5 jokingly and he ended up doing exactly that
the delusion

>>33264732
I never understood the rave for Olivia.

>>33264743
>olivia rodriguo is as attractive as megan fox
You're the kind of faceblind simp loser faggot I'm talking about. That being said megan fox is about a 6.5, which makes her very attractive and yes mostly out of range for a 4.5 male, but not some mythical 9 or 10. The point I'm trying to make is that we live in a world of intense hoeflation where incels think every girl they find attractive is like a 7 or 8 but if you weren't a faceblind autistic loser (you) you'd see she's like a 5 or 5.5 at best.

>>33264767
bait thread, I get it.

>>33264767
post examples of 9s and 10s.

>>33264776
How about you post someone with a confirmed iq of 180-200? Because that's the same thing. You probably rate 6-7s as 9-10s because you are an ugly low self esteem loser who needs an excuse. And because we live in a celebrity culture where (girl famous girl pretty MUST BE 9 10)
That being said here's a 8.5

>>33264787
not the same thing.
the 10 was not designed to be an ethereal impossible standard of beauty, it was conceived in casual talk to talk about extremely pretty girls that exist
post 9s and 10s, your scale still doesn't make sense to me.

>>33264811
I already posted a 8.5/10. how about you post 9s and 10s so I can laugh at your low standards and inevitable low self esteem
Calling your high school crush a 9 or a 10 is like saying that guy in your friend group who isn't a retard has an iq of 200. He's not that much smarter than you, he's just not a retard and applies himself so you think he's some kind of genius.
The point I'm making is that girls you find attractive are usually really not that attractive even if they fill you with lust. Absolutely average or even below average girls can do this.
Ever talked to a girl you thought was attractive and it went well and you were totally surprised? No it's not because you "learned game", no it's not because you're more attractive than you thought, it's because that bitch was a 5.5 at best and you're a 4.5 so it wasn't a total wash. I am a warrior in the fight against hoeflation and you are not going to stop me
here's a 6 (that you'd probably think is an 8 or 9)

>>33264838
you've resorted to calling names already, you're so mad lol
anyways, I'm not the one who came up with a distorted view of something most people use casually (there isn't a lab somewhere that tests what a 10/10 is and gives a certificate you know)
post your 9s and 10 if you think these girls are 5s, I wanna see your 9s and 10s, they don't need to be celebrities, just post them.

>>33264838
the girl you just posted looks WAY uglier than olivia rodrigo btw, there is no way you're giving her a higher score than her, if you're not rage baiting your scale as I said makes 0 sense.

>>33264869
incorrect, she's at least a full point higher. You just have a liking to more juvenile looking females probably
>>33264865
>hurr durr show me someone with a 180 iq
you overrate women just like you overrate yourself. You are probably a 5 at best and the women you think are so attractive probably aren't even 6s

>>33264717 (OP)
I don't know about you, but I find about 80% of women between 18-40 quite attractive

>>33264903
the distance of her chin to her mouth is huge what are you talking about
she looks like a young celine dion and celine dion is not ugly but not many would call her stunning either.

>>33264920
based coomer

>uhhhh this girl's phrenial measurement from her lips to her eyes are .5mm less than what they should be, NOT ATTRACTIVE
incels splitting hairs over attractiveness of women will never not be funny

7

>>33264717 (OP)
I won't read silly numerology threads.

>>33264717 (OP)
>Learn to use random arbitrary numbers to quantify someone's appearance just like me who spent 7485966 hours browsing incel.is

6.5

>>33264838
>Calling your high school crush a 9 or a 10 is like saying that guy in your friend group who isn't a retard has an iq of 200.
no a 9 or a 10 is supposed to be 10% of people each. the hottest fifth of the population is 9 or 10. everyone saw 9s and 10s in high school

that's nothing like 200 IQ which is one in a billion intelligence. a 10 is 1 in 10 beauty, you see it all the time

I don’t waste my time rating women—ratings are arbitrary, juvenile, and honestly a pretty limited way to look at things.

The real takeaway here is: don’t let your mind devalue you. A lot of so-called “hot babes” are just a well-curated production of makeup and surface-level interests.

Focus on what you can control. That’s what really matters.

>>33264717 (OP)
>Once you're above a 4 or a 4.5 you can have your pick of women who are also 4-5.
False because refusal to honestly accept themselves causes them to resent being with the person you're giving advice to. A woman who desperately needs herself to be an 8/10 in her heart will hate herself for being with a 5/10, and in turn hate the 5/10 because she's too retarded to identify herself as the cause of her discomfort.
The advice would work for women with self awareness, but if you're giving that advice, tell me how to hunt unicorns.

0 - A literal nightmare. Doesn't actually exist. There are no objective 0's
1 - Elephant Man tier or worse deformities
2 - Badly Deformed. Possibly an Inbred mutant
3 - Ugly
4 - Unattractive
5 - Average. Not objectively attractive or unattractive. But can be either subjectively
6 - Moderately attractive
7 - Attractive
8 - Very attractive
9 - Angelic, perfect, other worldly attractiveness
10 - Your personal taste in a 9. There are no real 10's, it is subjective

>>33264717 (OP)
She's a 5, maybe a 6, depends what she looks like without makeup

>>33264732
4.5

>>33264787
7
Beautiful

>>33264838
5.5

>>33265021
4.5

>>33265627
5 without makeup

>>33266515
You're a fucking retard if you think perfect 10 beauty happens all the time. Look at you thinking there's a lot of 10s out there. They're probably 7s at best. Simp
>>33267732
low iq take
>>33267859
deranged incel take. Most women are very self aware of where they rank, and if they ever forget, that's where (you) come into play. If you realize a girl is a 5 when other men treat her like a 7 or 8, you will stand out for your intelligence and discerning eye

>>33268116
actually I meant to say SCORE because "rank" is not a correct way to think of the scale

>>33264717 (OP)
>>33264732
>>33264787
>>33264838
>>33267944
This anon is enlightened. He has makeup immunity and has left Plato's cave. He does not watch porn.

>>33268135
porn is 100% one of the biggest causes of hoeflation along with obesity. Niggas see that young nonfat girls look good naked so when they see one irl they think WOW! UNOBTAINABLE BEAUTY!!!! When in reality that girl is probably a 4.5 at best and she knows it.
The moral of the story is that getting women isn't about "game" or playing their stupid games or whatever. It's about knowing how your worth stacks up against theirs. If you are a 4.5, and a girl is a 4.5, it doesn't matter that she wears makeup and has an instagram profile full of bikini pics. She is still a 4.5, deep down she knows this, and she will have sex with you if you ask and aren't a bitch about it.
Pic rel is a 3.5

>>33264717 (OP)
Well I'm fairly picky when it comes to women's physical appearances but I'm not talking about those Instagram girls either. I'm actually attracted to the women that look like tomboys and dykes and are bisexual. They have their feminine qualities, but act and look more like a guy. That's just me though.