22 yo man here. Anyone 25+, what's your advice for Zoomer men?

>Most Gen Z girls see us as immature and poor (they're right)
>So many zoomer men are either destroyed guys who go gay out of desperation
>Other Zoomer men are some of the most annoying, brainless, stoned wiggers you'll ever meet
>Most Zoomer boys gets hooked on porn starting at age 10
>The few female coworkers around my age openly lusted over unattractive middle aged guys who are as old as their dads

What should we do this point in life? I already graduated college, and am thinking of saving up money to go back to college for a few months just to meet women my age. I also with no car, you essentially have no social life in the states.

im also a zoomzoom but a bit younger. just get a job and ignore dating, or people in general. i hate people because they are retarded.

>>33268614
>just get a job and ignore dating, or people in general.
Doesn't this seem like cope, though?
I want romance, I want women, etc. Sexlessness will lead us to die and replaced by older immigrants...

I'm 37. People your age do seem pretty retarded to me in general, but so do plenty of people in my generation, and they were all as cooked as you when they were in their 20s, some got their shit together, some didn't. My advice? Start eating healthy and exercising NOW. Once you are old and fat it's too late for anything but damage control. I already have friends dead from cancer and obesity related diseases, and not just a few. Now is your chance to start the lifelong habits that will put you in the top tier of 30+yo. Also, join a church even if you think religion is bullshit, just be friendly and keep your doubts to yourself and don't spend much time judging other sinners, just reap the benefits of being part of a community. This is also the best dating advice I can give you, although going back to college is a solid idea too. Just don't waste a lot of money on useless degrees.

In short get healthy, get fit, get God.

>>33268581 (OP)
What are you gonna do for a few months in college? If your getting a useful degree, then it's not a bad idea to try date girls there. But if not you might just travel to europe and try to find someone there while traveling

>>33268703
>If your getting a useful degree, then it's not a bad idea to try date girls there.
I already got my stem degree. If you want a good degree, nursing/pharma is the only option with women in it. That's it. I'm thinking of taking language classes for a bit, to find girls and learn a language for traveling.

>>33268581 (OP)
34 year-old male anon, husband and father. I'll address your complaints about life:

>Most Gen Z girls see us as immature and poor
They're right. But Gen Z girls are also immature and poor. I was immature and poor at your age, most people are. Know why? Because youthfulness = immaturity. It's almost a synonym. And also young people haven't built up a career or a lifestyle, they're still starting out, so no shit they don't have $$$ saved. Saving money takes time. That's normal.

>So many zoomer men are either destroyed guys who go gay out of desperation
Those are few. And those cases existed in my generation, and the one before. Gays are always gonna be gay. The 'desperation' is just a denial cope. They'd fag out whenever they got the chance.

>Other zoomer men are some of the most annoying, brainless, stoned wiggers you'll ever meet
That was me when I was young too.

>Most zoomer boyz get hooked on porn starring age 10
Not too different from me either, I started at age 12.

>The few female coworkers around my age openly lusted over unattractive middle aged guys who are as old as their dads

This has always been a female trait.
Listen well, OP. Females crave security from men as strongly as men crave pussy from women. Cement that fact into your mind. Young girls assume older men with maturity and wealth (older men are older, age can = wisdom. Older men had time, time to save $$$). This is why some women chase older men. What those types of girls don't realise is, men who chase young skirt are often emotionally stunted, and have no lives built for themselves. Those girls end up in a shit spot if she is stupid enough to chase older men. Avoid girls with daddy issues.

>What should we do in this point in life?
Do what my generation refused to do — stop people pleasing. Stop bending over backwards for public opinion, stop living to appease the societal expectations, become the captain of your own life.

>>33268581 (OP)
>22 yo man here. Anyone 25+
You do know that a 25 year old is also a zoomer right? You don't become millennial or gen X when you become mid-20s

Fuckin hell, 30 year olds are borderline zoomers as well.

>>33268628
wait for ai girlfriends to become a thing and you dont need real women again. we can wait since we are young

>>33268882
You just know boomers and women will immediately wanna illegalize that in the US, right?

Bump, 22 year old as well. KHV but I'm saving money, working 2 jobs until my dad gets back to work then I'll continue my education in community college or something. Should I just worry about myself?

Take advantage of whatever chances you get with women, it doesn't get easier when you're older, especially if you have little or no experience. Make a lot of friends, no matter the sex, always helps later on. Exercise, stay in shape, nothing sucks more than fucking up your lower back randomly one day and being stuck with permanent back pain lmao. Save cash obviously, invest some of it, but spend some on yourself, enjoy it while you're young instead of waiting to enjoy it when you're about to retire.

>>33268896
they wont, theres going to be too many young men fighting against that.

>>33268994
Your Discord server and incel.is aren't good metrics to define an entire demographic. Normal people in real life probably would find you extremely pathetic for stating such opinions

>>33268581 (OP)
https://youtu.be/lqZehFAwoTM?t=32

It's over as soon as you turn 18 and leave the school system without a well established social circle. You go to work, but you won't make any friends, just coworkers. You join a sports club, same deal. It's over, because everyone already has their social circles locked in since childhood. You'll be nothing more than a coworker, destined to be alone for life. Social life and relationships are like trains you have to catch at the quay, a race against time that takes place during adolescence. And by extension, logically of course, no social life and no women.
But normies don't understand this because they are clueless normies who think you can walk into a bar full of strangers and magically form a social life like in The Sims. Only women can start from scratch and create a social life and get a boyfriend from scratch because of their status as women.

Whether you're 35 or 22 it doesn't change anything, maybe for the normies, but for you and me Chud, a year is like any other, the sands of time flowing towards nothingness, nothing more.. nothing less.

>>33269023
not really true, there's more and more young men feeling lonely than ever, and their mental health will go down, making them desperate for a connection, and they will turn to ai gfs, especially when we are seeing tons of progress being made.

>>33268581 (OP)
Build a life that you love and don't seek to impress people, and you will attract more people anyway. Minimalism, budget, and invest. Educate yourself if you can. Develop a good schedule. Don't push yourself too hard unless you understand the path to your goal.

Oh and try lots of things and learn about everything

>>33268684
>Also, join a church even if you think religion is bullshit
This sounds batshit to me as someone who was raised atheist. Sorry but I'm not gonna be able to keep up that larp man. I guess this only makes sense to do in the mind of a religious person who lives in a very religious place, for me it would just a bizarre thing to do.

>>33269754
True that , but I definitely recommend joining some sort of community as well.
I recommend a sports club, it keeps you motivated to exercise and they generally have hot chicks hanging around as well, depending on the sport.

>>33268581 (OP)
Lift weights, eat clean often, save 75% of your income.

>>33269023
>muh normies
who gives a fuck?

Millenial who is unintentionally attracting too many zoomer girls here.

Gen Z are the most left wing generation of women, even moreso than us millenials.

Many ignore zoomer men in general just expecting them to be right wing, if youre right wing you're honestly out of luck.

If you're a European style centrist or apolitical, you might be able to fudge your beliefs a bit and see some success.

>>33268581 (OP)
Your best bet to find high value women is to meet religious women through church or look into dating foreign women “.

>>33270041
Zoomer here.
Intresting. I agree, but I think it's an American virtue signaling thing. Currently at work, most of the girls are centrist or left leaning, but the ones who are left leaning aren't too annoying about it.

I think at the end of the day, if you're attractive and aren't annoying about it most people don't give a shit about your political views. This goes for men and women. Do you think I'm wrong, from your older perspective?

>>33270197
Yep. Am thinking of visiting parts of Europe and Asia before I turn 25 to meet women. Feels like you're a useless nothing cog in the states, unless you're some Jake Paul successful (born to rich parents) chad.

>>33268703
>travel to europe and try to find someone there while traveling
Terrible idea. Girls in Europe are very sparse because they are scared of going outside and those few who are out in the streets are very cautious and avoidant of any men they meet due to the current arab invasion of Europe.
If you're going to visit Europe then pick eastern European countries like Poland and absolutely avoid Germany, Belgium, England, France, Spain and Sweden
>t. eurofag

>>33269074
I had some of my best friends ever in middle school. The kind of friends I know I won't have now. In highschool, once my family moved, I had autistic friends. It sucked.

Am I doomed for not just trying to make friends with girls because I was an immature yucko in highschool? Btw my last two years of highschool were spent at home due to covid.

>>33270279
this is truer the older you get unless you're one of those loners that spend the day shitposting about politics online all day
most normal people stop caring about the political beliefs of their neighbors and even their friends and loved ones as time goes on, I've dated girls that were almost diametrally opposed to me politically.
many young people is really politically active to a fault tho, I've seen girls discard guys they were interested in on the basis of a flag on their profile or a meme they've shared.

>>33270305
Are women actually scared of white men/white boys because of Arab rapists in Europe?

>>33270279
As the other anon stated, young folks tend to be far more political, it's part of finding yourself I guess?

It does become less important with age unless you are a huge tankie or fascist/racist which most women just don't like.

>>33270370
>It does become less important with age unless you are a huge tankie or fascist/racist which most women just don't like.

Off topic, but I feel like women will never be openly racist or ever address race under any circumstances. There could a migration of more hostile people coming over to Europe, and the women would say "all these men are problem," they almost always skirt the race issue and make it a "all men" issue. Anyone else see this among women?

>>33270322
The euro media propaganda narrative is that Christian Whites are the rapists and arabs are the good boys who could never do anything wrong, any case of rape gets quickly covered up and censored and the victims get arrested for hate speech if they dare say who did it. Europeans are retarded as fuck so I would say around half the women here think that it's the Whites.

>>33270041
> you might be able to fudge your beliefs a bit and see some success
"Change your beliefs so you can get laid bro" Lmao what a spineless fucking loser

>>33268905
>Take advantage of whatever chances you get with women, it doesn't get easier when you're older
I doubt it was easy for you at any age at all

>Make a lot of friends, no matter the sex, always helps later on

you make friends so you can use them when needed? lmao you absolute nigger

>>33270394
nah brah that's just your country
some of the most racist people I know in my country are women
they are not violent but they are racist as fuck
funny because my country is mostly mixed people but they like their version of mixed not the other version of mixed if that even makes sense lol
but yeah racism exists in every gender it might be just heavily frowned upon in femenine circles over there.

Understand logic, reasoning, and being observant.

>>33268581 (OP)
I'll be real with you, Gen Z dating is pretty bad and it's not just a "young" thing. It straight up wasn't this bad ten years ago and Gen Z women seem much more feckless.
Anyway get fit (as in strong and healthy, not a faggot cultivating aesthetics while using drugs), put away money but also don't be so miserable you never do anything with it. Networking matters more than anything for a good career

>>33270541
>they are not violent but they are racist as fuck
Any real life example? The only way, in my country, a woman might be "racist", is her being honest about not wanting to date a non-White. That's about it. No women I know irl would ever really be racist. Many would be openly misandrist though.

>>33268581 (OP)
37 here.

Stop being faggots
Put down the phone
Cut that gay broccoli hair
Wear shoes, not crocs/sandals with socks
Start talking like a man, not a lisping cocksucker

>Most Gen Z girls see us as immature and poor (they're right)
Yep. They see you as fellow girls because y'all act like girls and priss around - Seriously, we millennials watch you and we see dudes priss your ass around like a chick.
>So many zoomer men are either destroyed guys who go gay out of desperation
That explains a lot
>Other Zoomer men are some of the most annoying, brainless, stoned wiggers you'll ever meet
Again yep. Drop the wigger bullshit. You ain't black. Act White. You ain't cool.
>Most Zoomer boys gets hooked on porn starting at age 10
Blame your careless GenX parents for not caring and raising "free range" kids
>The few female coworkers around my age openly lusted over unattractive middle aged guys who are as old as their dads
I am 37. That is because we actually act like Men and do manly things, since their GenX dads are too busy watching sportsball and not caring.

>>33268581 (OP)
Pay Aaron Clarey to give you advice (it's like $40) and read his books and watch his videos.
Read tons of books on how to improve yourself on whatever it is you want to do.
Work out every day
This most important ones:
How To Fail At Everything and Still Win Big - Scott Adams
The Power of Positive Thinking - Norman Vincent Peale
Six Pillars of Self Esteem - Nathaniel Branden
How To Win Friends and Influence People - Dale Carnegie

>>33271506
Embracing your inner angry boomer, I see.

>>33268628
Yeah, first of all get a normal haircut and don't run around like a broccoli-headed fag.

>>33269754
Join a local sports club I guess. Play soccer. That's where all the pretty girls go to find a boyfriend.

Stop talking about politics altogether

Whether you're a based reactionary or communist socialist leftoid all the politics in your generation are absolutely retarded failed ideas

>>33268581 (OP)
avoid modern meme technology

I swear AI and chatgpt and grammarly and all this other current year stuff is going to lead to a generation of absolutely 0 skills

I don't mean like "I don't know how to code because AI stole my potential entry-level codingjob" I mean a whole generation of adults who literally don't know how to articulate thoughts and speak & write in English since AI did all their homework and writes all their emails and everything for them.

Same with artists, gone are the days of kids sitting down at a desk with a pen and paper or even a digital tablet & stylus where they enrich themselves by developing their art skills. Fuckin hell, even kids messing around in GMod and Source Movie Maker is gonna seem like something that took place 50 years ago.

They just plug in some prompts in whatever AI image generator and let them machines do all their creativity for them. A whole generation of adults soon to be like "uhhhh chat, how do I get AI to visualize an apple in my imagination?"

It's gonna make the movie Idiocracy seem like wishful thinking.

I m 44. Don’t waste time. In your age you can change everything, in my - not so much. Work on yourself, do gym, diet, be consistent. Get good habits and with some persistence you’ll get whatever you want. Or not - if you don’t do all of this.