Hey there everyone. So I started a thread over a week ago about how I met this girl from tinder whom I got pregnant and she’s decided to keep the baby. This is the text conversation we had. I would like to know what/how to proceed next. Last time yall gave me some solid advice to get a paternity test so I do believe that is next. But! I’m posting here just to get some feedback so I’d appreciate it.

How does that even happen bro?
Holy fuck idiot zoomers

Sorry for the spam I want to make sure yall have at least the full conversation

Last image. Couple things to note since I failed to mention it in my first post; I am 25, she is as well, or at least 24. I have been seeing her on and off for a month, we did not go on any dates, we have quite literally only had sex with each other. Barely made small talk. We only decided to have sex, and she made it clear that she wanted to be exclusive (I guess to avoid STDSs).
Now, the reason I didn’t pull out because I’m a sex addicted retard who believed her when I was told she was on the pill. She could very well be but the fact she was 6 weeks pregnant when she initially told me was staggering. After this last message I told her we needed to talk in person so here we are now. We only know each other on a first name basis, barely shared any information about each other, and quite frankly we’ve only had maybe 2 hours worth of small talk. I really want to have a game plan here, because this is absolutely bonkers to me.

>>33277490 (OP)
I read the convo so far. Its a lot of words between you two when it shouldn't be lol. Both of you are immature by the way. She keeps bringing that difference up, and you keep bowing down to it like a dog. "Oh you are right you are more mature than me, queen."

Nah. You were immature for thinking with your dick. And she is immature for using a baby as an emotional prop to feel secure. She thinks having a baby will fix her shit. That's only going to come at the cost of destroying the child's psyche during upbringing.

Responsible mature people have babies from a place of maturity. From having their lives together first, and THEN the baby comes out of it. Her way is to have a baby in hopes it gets her shit together. That's an immature way to use the life of the unborn for a selfish reason.

I feel bad for the kid and it ain't even born yet.

She is right though, fuck abortion. But fuck the both of you for this retarded shit show. You both enabled each other's retardation.

The best course of action is to marry her and raise the kid. You're both more alike than you realize. You both type essays, you both (talk like this in parenthesis to dial back your true thoughts), and both of you are using a baby as a weapon against each other.

I'm serious man, take you and this chick to counselling and work out a tenable relationship. See how she reacts to the idea of becoming your wife. If she starts freaking out and rejects the idea, it tells you it's most likely not even your kid. Geg the DNA test

>>33277490 (OP)
pregnancy tests dont even work after a week she'd probs just fucking with you

>>33277535
>>33277549
Also
>only decided to have sex, and she made it clear that she wanted to be exclusive (I guess to avoid STDSs).

Nah. Use your brain, bro. She said it in ab earlier screencap:
>"I'm terrified actually. I am a fat, black, single woman in America."

In other words:
>"I am scared no one wants me. I fear I am worthless. Why doesn't anyone want me?"

That's what she's really saying. She fucked you casually but insisted on exclusivity because it was her desperate way to get someone to want her and love her. She roped you in with her pussy game, but then tried to manipulate the situation into resembling a exclusive committed relationship. She did that because she feels no guy actually wants her as a person, only for sex. And that attitude shows in her low self esteem which she masks as being a victim.

She was hoping you'd love her and naturally want a relationship if you fucked her. But she also knows how some guys are, only wanting pussy. So she insisted to be exclusive fuck buddies to force a fake relationship to soothe her shitty self esteem.

She'll tell you 'its not that deep, marc' but it is.

>>33277490 (OP)
she's incredibly abusive btw and takes full advantage of gender disparity. if she wants to abort the child, she can do it and you have no say in the story. if she wants to keep the child she can do it and you're obliged to pay her for 18 years.
o and this is definitely exactly how she wanted to get pregnant or shed abort.

>>33277564
>Continued
Lastly, we arrive at the REAL reason why she wants to keep the kid. It's called a 'baby trap', OP. Works the same way as the last trap you fell into – fucking her but not knowing it was a ploy from her to force a committed relationship.

She chose to have the baby before you even knocked her up. Why? To get you to stay. That's her main goal, it's why she is adamant about keeping the baby. Because if she keeps the baby, she keeps you around. She knows you're legally obligated to stay in that baby's life in some way. And because baby is attached to her, it means you have to be in her life too.

Again, it was a trap to keep you. Because she is a 'single, fat, black woman' who is desperate for a man to want her. But she'll lie and pretend she is a strong independent woman who don't need no man.

Truth is, she does. She needed one so bad she trapped one twice just to force him to stay.

I also feel bad for the baby.
You 2 are not meant to be together, I still have no idea how it even happened, there seems no chemistry between you 2, and she's too insistent on keeping that baby because she knows emasculating and shaming a man is 1 sure way to keep a man locked up. Things like "be a man", take responsibility, be mature, don't be immature, I'm not 16 yo, I have support and a great family, etc. Those are all spooks and tools meant to scare you and shame you into complacency. Like hell man, why are you so "respectful" with a whore future single mother, why are you always apologizing and always putting yourself down? Even if you take part in your kid's life (don't do it), you DON'T want your kid to have a doormat father. You do NOT what that for your kid.
And what happens if you don't take responsibility? Be realistic, what can happen? You have these conversations, she can't blame rape on you, you're a dude who doesn't want that kid. Big fucking deal, if she wants to be a single mother good for her, does she expect a prize for it? Fuck er man, don't do it, don't get together with her. She will make your life hell

>>33277529
>I sat with myself and questioned why I'm risking death to bring a child into the Earth that is so incredibly unwanted by their other parents.

>>33277584
More proof OP of what I mean. Replace the word 'baby' with 'me'. And she starts to make sense.

She thinks she is the one who is incredibly unwanted by (you). Not the baby. The baby isn't even born yet. She doesn't know how you will feel about the baby when it's born, she cannot know, and neither can you.

So she can't know. So how is she able to make these presumptions? From projection. She is using what she feels about (you) and copy-pasting it onto the baby. She feels you don't care about her and don't want her. So she auto-assumes you don't want baby. She identifies as the baby verbally. Open your eyes nigga, that's what's going on.

You stuck your dick in a girl who was crying for 'daddy'. But Daddy didn't want baby girl. And now she is angry.

This is why you don't go around sleeping with people you don't even fucking know. Retard.

Right now there's only one thing that matters, and it's the baby. Whether she keeps it or not isn't up to you. You fucked up big time because you let your dick control you like so many other men and now you have to deal with the consequences.

>>33277582
>if she wants to abort the child, she can do it
? OP gave no indication that he lives in a 3rd world country.

Try and get a paternity test you dumb dumb, if she had unprotected sex with someone she talked for 2 hour she isn't very smart, and if you trust her you are dumber than her. If the kid is yours get together or support her and the kid or put the little fucker for adoption. If the kid isn't yours just dip out.

>>33277490 (OP)
this is so fucking funny.
4chins chuds keep saying "teeeheeee wimmin gotta take up responsibility teheeee" and think they can lock down a HVW this way. meanwhile when the much more likely scenario of a BPD crazy chick attaching herself to you for at least two decades happens chuds shart themselves in fear. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

you dun goofed anon. she's clearly nuts and is trying to guilt trip you into playing husband after deliberately baby trapping you. lmao @ all the christcucks who want to push you into that as well. doesn't matter if you stick around or not be prepared for child support kek. kid's got no chance already to be a non-fuck up.

UPDATE: OP here, thanks for the words gang. I’m feeling like a complete fucking idiot for getting myself into this, but I do appreciate the insight yall have brought. I messaged her to have a conversation in person and this is how it went. Something is very fishy with the way she’s acting.

Part 2. Thoughts? The guys who brought up being trapped definitely have some stake here. I’m getting the feeling I’m either being lied to (I really hope so) or that’s genuinely trying to trap me because I am a nice guy. Not a NICE guy, but I’m kind to a fault, hence why I sent such long paragraphs and have been so patient, it’s just the kind of person I am.

Further opinions, thoughts, concerns, comments will be greatly appreciated.

>>33277797
>>33277806
why does she act like you're sending her death threats?

>>33277490 (OP)
1 you're both cringe insufferable faggots
2 it's what you make of it. be a good dad or run away. all you can do is what you can do. if she's evil or stupid or crazy, it's going to be hard for you to protect your child from harm. but it's your duty to do whatever you can to ensure your child reaches adulthood as healthy and well educated and mentally stable as possible.
3 once again you zoomers or gen alpha or whatever the fuck you little annoying faggots are, my god you're all so retarded and annoying it makes me physically ill to hear you talk or see your written communication

>>33277490 (OP)
First, I suggest you consult a local lawyer on this issue to get the exact laws about in your area. Pay whatever fee because this could potentially put you on the hook for your whole life.

I also suggest you contact Terrence Popp if you can, he knows all about these kinds of issues, prepare a war plan because she sounds like she's going to hurt you.

You could also pay Aaron Clarey like $40 and he will give you advice at https://assholeconsulting.com/

You could also try getting advice from Stefan Molyneux at https://freedomain.com/call/

>>33277490 (OP)

No it wont, I have 3 kids, two daughters and a son, its the best thing that ever happened to me.

even if it doesnt work out with mom you can still fight for some custody, i only pay 280$ CAD a month for 3 kids.

I am 33, with a 10 year old old, 8 year old girl and 6 year old boy.

how old are you?

>>33277866

It takes an insufferable faggot to recognize other faggotry retard. Didn’t realize I was speaking with an expert.

>>33277490 (OP)
Try asking AI: perplexity.ai

>>33277797
When you are talking face to face make sure you record it.

>>33277891
Lemme put it this way; I don’t want ANY children. So with that in mind I’m not going forward with the idea of physically having the kid. Call me a deadbeat or whatever but I legitimately cannot handle the thought of having someone like me, and let alone the mother. It’s my choice to not want a part of it.
Plus, 3 kids? A wife? I think you’re overqualified for this lol thank you for responding through. I’m glad you’re happy

>>33277902
>>33277922
>I legitimately cannot handle the thought of having someone like me
I accept your concession, retarded faggot
honestly why not just an hero? problem solved!

>>33277806
>Part 2. Thoughts?
She's still being a crazy dizzy broad, that's my thoughts. She's being 'guarded' as she calls it lol. Look at her policing your tone over text and demanding to meet on neutral ground as if you are a threat.

It's because she doesn't know whether you are a threat or not, she barely knows you and you barely know her. Pretty crazy right? It's as if fucking strangers is a ludicrous idea. Imagine bot knowing if someone is a threat or not and electing to sleep with them anyway. That's why casual sex/hook up culture is for psychotics bro.

>>33277834
She acts like OP is threatening because she's probably conjured up in her head that OP wants to beat the baby out of her. In her head OP is now the bad guy who wants baby dead and she will assume his forwardness to meet = he really wants to beat her or some shit.

This is such a great demonstration why you should not have unprotected sex with strangers from Tinder. I seriously dont even know how its possible to fuck a total stranger. How can you two even have sexual chemistry? What is it like to bang a stranger really ?

>>33277490 (OP)
tldr
kick her in the belly

I don't get it, in America you have to pay for a woman's kid even if you aren't married? Why? What happens if you block and ignore her, and just simply don't show up ever again and forget it ever happened? What can she even do? Can she even FORCE you to take a paternity test?
>this lil nigga ain't mine, fuck off
OP is probably fucked because it's all on text, otherwise what can really truly happen? Can a bitch just show up on my doorstep one day with a fucking kid and say he's mine? And if I don't take any paternity test OHHHH HE DEFINITELY MINE

>>33277490 (OP)
Im not reading all that shit.

If you don’t like kids at all, then yeah you’re fucked. If you like kids, you’ll figure it out.

>>33277922
>I don’t want ANY children
Why did you have unprotected sex?

>>33278127
>What is it like to bang a stranger from tinder
It’s not as “random” as you put it. Usually you match someone you’re really attracted to physically, and you chat and flirt on the app for a while before actually meeting up. So there is some built up energy and tension there.

>>33278217
>I don't get it, in America you have to pay for a woman's kid even if you aren't married? Why?

Not just America. And it's because you are 50% the reason why a baby exists, and baby needs food and medicine and comfort. That costs $$$. And you are morally and legally obligated to contribute towards the welfare of the vulnerable baby, because (you) are 50% the reason it exists. The baby needs a good upbringing, or close to it. It's the right thing to do.

Except when it's not and the woman arbitrarily wants an abortion. Then everyone is more than happy to crush the little bastard's skull in with some forceps and vacuum the dead remains out of the vagina. Then all that talk about the baby's welfare goes out the window lol.

>>33278217
Yes

>>33278260
Yes my last girlfriend I met on bumble. But I couldn't really imagine having sex with her on our first meeting

>"im just letting u know u have a responsibility"

Who in the fuck does this bitch think she is talking to lol no woman would ever fucking text me like this. I would absolutely abandon her ass

>>33278272
It’s one of the most fun and exciting things to do. Better than sex with a gf

>>33277529
>im a fat black single woman

you dun goofed marc

>>33278287
It’s literally his kid.. he DOES have responsibility

>>33277490 (OP)
Why do all these exchanges come across like a femdom scenario. Like youre being punished for impregnating some bitch who gets hard on humiliating you for it

>>33278309
Really? Truth nuke? Sex with my gf got better over time and at first it was awkward. It isn't awkward for strangers?

damn, you black OP (dont see why a white guy would hit a fat black woman)?
honestly, i would stay with her just to avoid the stereotypes because the social handicap of that label is super negative (for both of you and the kid).

>>33277490 (OP)
I would try to get a paternity test on that kid ASAP. You don't know who else she had sex with after all. If the child is yours then man up and provide for the kid as well as you can. Be upfront with the person about it too. Tell em, if the kid is mine I will take care of the kid. But only if we can confirm that I am the father. If she is sure you are the parent then that shouldn't be an issue. If she not sure and just want you to be a sucker then talk to a lawyer ASAP. Protect yourself.

>>33278313
My responsibility to not be a pussy supersedes the responsibility of the unborn child. You cannot talk to me like that and get what you want out of me ever, period.

>>33278324
No it’s the most exciting thing; it’s new. There is a lot of wonder and anticipation about what is going to happen. Sex with a gf gets boring and predictable over time

>>33278317
>Why do all these exchanges come across like a femdom scenario.

Cuz guys who didn't learn enough from their father role models end up simp-coded and crave pussy 24/7 cuz they relied on mommy their whole life. They end up seeking women who repeat what their devouring mothers did, nagging and henpecking the shit out of them. They seek it out in the women they fuck.
AH SAID AM SORRY MAMA AH NEVER MENT TO HURTCHUUU.

>>33278336
I doubt OP is black. The reason black Betty called attention to her race is because OP isn't the same race. That's the social logic.

His name is Marc not DeMarcus lol

>>33278355
>Sex with a gf gets boring and predictable over time
I disagree but my longest relationship is 3 years and I never had a casual affair. Maybe I'll try it

>>33277584
Oh shit I didn't read all that shit OP posted. Are you saying that the woman is not only black but fat? Damn OP you fucked up. What's next, you going to say OP is black as well? Jesus. Might as well go to fucking Maury and get that paternity test on TV and when you find the baby ain't yours you can then celebrate. But in the off chance that kid is yours, we all know you going to be a deadbeat so why ask us?

>>33277490 (OP)
>whoa, black betty (bam-A-lam)
whoa, black betty (bam-A-lam)
Black betty had a child (bam-A-lam)
The damn thing gone wild (bam-A-lam)
She said "I'm worrin' outta my mind" (bam-A-lam)
The damn thing gone blind (bam-A-lam)
I said oh black betty (bam-A-lam)
whoa, black betty (bam-BA-lam)

>>33277922


Never got Married, I was 22 when I found out I was going to be a father.

women usually are younger then the man, I had two daughters by 25!

I never married my baby mom, we are broken up now.

I also used to say I never wanted kids, until I had no choice, we were both poor, I was in college, we made it work. you can too.

you cant understand how strong the bond biologically as a man until the child is born. When you look at your daughters eyes, it will look like a mirror, you will never understand how much you love and want to protect your little girl, or how proud you will be when you get to witness your sons athletic prowess or intellectual capacity and be beaming with internal pride.

For woman this connection begins at conception, the hormones run wild.

for men it begins after birth, in the first 4 months you will feel differently.

just my advice, I advocate for life, if its your BIOLOGICAL child, you wont regret it, especially when you get older. I often feel so happy and glad I got having kids out the way. knowing 2 daughters and a son will atleast get me hopefully one grandchild.

Dont worry about money, Having children is the motivation and impetuous that you will make more money and be more motivated then you ever could be without a child to raise.

my advice is send a simple message, telling her whatever she choses you will support the choice, If she chooses life you will support the child with a paternity test of course.

>>33277529
>>Fat, black, single woman
OH NOOOOO OP NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>33277797
>>33277806
Nigger, she ain't pregnant or got busted up by Tyrone. No way in hell a pregnant woman would act like this now. She is a controlling and fat boss bitch, and she is afraid of how you react when you find out she ain't pregnant (by (you)).

>>33277529
>OP knocked up a fat black chick off Tinder and she wants to keep the baby
Oh no n-pfft OH NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHA

I hate zoomers so much it's unreal

>>33277529
>not only is a random tinder whore the mother of your firstborn
>your firstborn is an orc
As I said in the last thread, please reevaluate your life. You're an immature little boy and this, while harsh, is exactly the kind of reality check you need.

>>33278421
Not OP but just wanna say, you inspire me as a soon to be father myself. My kid ain't born yet but your post really resonates with what I'm beginning to feel for my unborn kid and my wife. You got my respect bro. I think your kids got a good dad in their corner and that's encouraging. I hope to be a good one too

>>33277490 (OP)
get a fertility test
give her papaya. babies hate papaya.
then get a paternity test as soon as you can
if you ever find out the baby is real and you are the real father, leave to mexico.

>>33277535
You've been seeing her for a month and she's six weeks pregnant?