Why the fuck do women do stupid shit to solicit a reaction, then get upset when it blows up in their face?
Is that what they want?

Almost every woman I know does this bullshit.
My mother, my girlfriend, my sister...

I have no idea how to "properly" react to it;
If I react (which I often do) it feels like I've been "had", like, they got what they wanted.
If I ignore it, they do something -worse- that puts us all it a dumb spot.

usually i overreact and then withdraw and then be sweet when (if) they try to reconcile

>>33277822 (OP)
Women are emotionally volatile. They want you, as a man, to be a nonreactive, stable force in their lives. It's not fair but that's how it is. Their hormones fluctuate wildly.

The good thing is, the more stable and secure you are as a man, the more you can regulate their emotions, the less they'll freak out on you and they'll do it for less time too. That's why they are drawn to secure, confident, capable men. They literally need men like that to regulate their own emotions.

So, just work on that. Remember that you don't have to react to someone else's chaos. Be grounded in yourself. As soon as I learned how to do this, everything changed for me. Just for my personal story, I grew up around women like that and used to yell back and argue. Then I got an insecure/anxious BPD gf and did the same. That's when I was told what I'm telling you, by a professional who specializes in BPD. It was really difficult at first, but I remained completely calm. Here's the technique to use:
>I am fully listening to you.
>I understand how you're feeling.
>I'm here with you. We'll get through this together.
Basically just be understanding of their emotions but don't get sucked into the chaos. It only takes a few times for them to start adjusting, and they'll approach you with more and more calm every time. Good luck.

>>33277887
My dad is "unreactive" and "stable", but to me it seems he's just emotionally dead and beaten down.
My mother is a fucking nightmare, just the fucking worst of them all and she treats him like a doormat.
Cutting her off was the best decision of my fucking life but seeing the same behavior in (almost) every other woman is driving me crazy.

All my sisters do the same shit (except for my older sis, she lives with me and my gf)
Now my gf is doing the same bullshit and when I ignored her she blows the fucking car tires (which I suspect was intentional, but I can't prove) by driving into a curb

>>33277845
That's sort of been my MO, actually.
People say it's "toxic" or whatever but this sort up-and-down seems to be like a drug addiction to women, especially with ones I end up in a relationship with.

>>33277887
This is true. Women don't even know how to control their emotions. They seem men to control it for them. Because that's what all good men seek, control. Women can't handle control and hate the idea of it. We love it as men because we are naturally drawn to problem solving.

All women are emotionally incontinent and volatile. But not all of them express it in a toxic abusive way. I think there's a fine line. If the woman lashes out in her emotions, just bail. Ditch the bitch. If she expresses it in a way that doesn't bring abuse or toxicity, like just crying or venting anger in general, it's workable. But the minute the man becomes the emotional punching bag, the man should leave.

>>33277887
>>33278108
my girl was doing the crying bit and i followed this step by step and she adored it. thanks dude I don't have a dad

>>33277822 (OP)
I think you're calling about those things like asking if you'd still love them if they were a worm or something
I just shrug my shoulders, some of those thigs are not worth answering even if you answered what you think they wanted to hear

>>33277822 (OP)
This is why the law needs to recognize that men need to beat women sometimes to set them straight.

This is the best way for men to protect women

>>33277822 (OP)
Because evolution discovered it works. If you want a man's attention, you piss him off or cry. When a woman does that, it just means, "I have an emotional need, fix it"

>I have no idea how to "properly" react to it
Because there isn't. You can choose to take the remark seriously, disregard it, ignore it, it's up to you. All women have tons of emotional turmoil going on all the time due to estrogen and whether or not you think they're important to consider is entirely up to you. You don't have control over what they're emotional about, only how you react to it. I've seen women get hysterical over condiments. Estrogen is a hell of a drug.
>If I ignore it, they do something -worse- that puts us all it a dumb spot.
Ignored women will either resort to nagging, the silent treatment, or escalated remarks, yes. Because their emotional need is still there, by ignoring it you haven't done anything about it.

>>33278108
Mem don't seek control. Numerous studies have implied women are more controlling, and abuse their partners more than men. Controlling people hate the idea of being controlled, hence why women are always spamming the words "controlling or abusive" when someone disciplines them

>>33277887
I got a better idea, just leave. BPD is a Cluster B disorder. Other disorders on that cluster are Narcissistic personality disorder and Antisocial personality disorder (Sociopathy). BPD is literally also called Emotionally Unstable Personality Disorder. Set boundaries and leave, your basically a victim of emotional abuse

>>33277822 (OP)
Simple really.
It's their twisted way of asserting your love for them.
Its poor upbringing, really.
Being always treated as little princess make her think she can act as a bitch and be forgiven.
Men get bullied in the first few years when they get in contact with peers (school, playground, etc) and grow up and realize actions have consequences.
And those that don't end up as trannies.
This is my thesis which was rejected for being insensitive and inconclusive.

>>33282253
Women socially bully each other extremely often

>>33282391
>Women socially bully each other extremely often
In 90s movies only.
women bully themselves and blame it on others.

>>33277822 (OP)
Biological compulsion and a civilization that enables thier bad behavior.

Just shut down thier shit, and ignore thier reaction, it is that of a child. Ignore it like a childs.

>>33281562
Goddamn this.

I used to wonder why men drank and beat thier wives. Now I don't.

>>33281807
it's this. hate feeling like a punching bag. what ya gonna do

>>33281807
Simps like you enabling bitch-like behavior is what drove society to ruin.

>>33282671
you can cry about it all you like, but it won't change that reality

>>33277822 (OP)
This is something which some highly insecure women do for complicated reasons I can't be bothered telling you. The important thing is this: You are subconsciously seeking out these women because it's what you know. You do not have to be with women like this. You aren't to blame, but you are the one who is selecting for these women. You need to break the pattern.

The main obstacle is that you don't even know that you can do better. For example, the solution to your problem is obvious: Don't hang out with women who do this shit. But you assume that means you couldn't hang out with women at all, and you don't want to give up pussy.

>>33282736
the west has fallen
Time for proper Islamic empire.

>>33282801
You always say "don't do X" but never actually describe the alternative path.

Sure a road between New York and Los Angeles exists, but you'll never take anything but the interstate. Hell theres a walking path, but I'm not rubbing in the faces of people who's car broke down somewhere in the middle.

You could give them actual instructions and a roadmap, but you're so full of shit. This behavior happens at every strata of society, and expecting them to figure it out is equivalent to sabotage.

Raw discovery is 3x or more, materialy and time expensive, and you are expecting them to do this on a challenge thats been artificially increased, but absolutely everyone must do coorectly for any civilizational stability. And you rub it in thier face when they flail about.

>>33283866
Just don't do hang out with people who do this kind of thing, retard
the fuck kind of instruction manual do you need

>>33282848
>Time for proper Islamic empire.

But I'm not interested in fuckin my sister or little boys .

>>33283962
>But I'm not interested in fuckin my sister or little boys .
GAY

>>33281562
Hitting women clearly works and not only do they need it but they WANT it, so frustrating that the law will not accommodate this basic necessity of human dynamics

>>33278014
>(except for my older sis, she lives with me and my gf)
how do they compete for your affection?

>>33277822 (OP)
Men do this too.

Just greyrock anon.

>>33281844
Citation needed

>>33277822 (OP)
Women enjoy being upset the same way men enjoy digging tunnels or whatever.

>>33289752
Common sense

>>33277822 (OP)
The source of "doing stupid shit" falls somewhere between brattiness out of boredom and real emotional turmoil

Therefore you need to correctly identify and act accordingly.
>Inane bs ->ignore
If you react to every action of hers you become her plaything.
>annoying bs ->warning
Set limits to her behavior. She and her emotions need boundaries. Be stern.
Bonus: They sometimes need drama so they go create it. If you respond harshly they might start believing their bs (if she doesn't respect you) and an argument might start. But if you play along and "pretend argue" you show 2 things: that you've identified her need but also that you're in control of your emotions.
>estrogen fueled craziness disguised as bs (aka "You didn't do the dishes, I hate you")-> find the source of disturbance and fix it
If you see her huffing and puffing there is something brewing underneath. Take her aside, discuss what's troubling her as >>33277887
said and sort out the chaos.

Remember: Don't date BPD unless you enjoy suffering, don't react by simping to her every irritation, if you hit her you've fucked up long time ago and the source of stupid shit is also the source of life.