People including my only boyfriend ever have been putting me down due to my genetic hollow upper eyelids since forever. Calling me a frog,ugly etc. The only way for me to be genuinely seen as beautiful is if I got a fat graft or filler on my eyelids. But such injections even to the nose have been reported to can cause blindness. Source "A Novel Hypothesis of Visual Loss Secondary to Cosmetic Facial Filler Injection"

This male YouTuber you might recognise got it done and I have tried contacting him if he can talk about the studies but idk if he will respond. I really wish I could do what he did, I hate myself without it but the question is.

What is worst being seen by subhuman by everyone including yourself, never been seen as worthy as other, constantly being mocked or risk blindness?

>>33279400 (OP)
I think eyelids are attractive so long as they are:y dramatically different and even then sometimes if it works with the rest of the face. The human body is asymmetrical balanced in fact. Though we often associate perfect symmetry with "godliness" or perfectionism. if your eyelids are symmetrical than it is just plain character.

>>33279421
It isn't a symmetry thing it is a hollowness thing

>>33279400 (OP)
Should have used this as the op since image to the left is more visually appealing

>sunken eyes
start trying restrictive diets like keto
you're probably slightly allergic to something you've been eating, like gluten

wide eyes are a postive
staring at the mirror, thinking about how you'd change your face, and repeating mean things people have said to you, is not a good use of your time

>>33279449
You're probably overthinking or aging. Maybe try a skin pulling back surgery or C02 Fractional Laser rather than fillers.

>>33279464
Is it tho because my parents have the same eyes and in general greek people which is my ethnicity have it?

You mean open them? To be fair I probably have ptosis(do I?) which the surgery to fix that is not dangerous but it won't really fix the hollowness

>>33279469
I told you I had this as a kid too, wdym by skin pulling surgery

>>33279469
Also why do you think the laser helps?googled and it made this woman's lids worse

>>33279488
She definitely looks way better after. I feel like you are mentally ill about this and it's gonna take you a long time to see.

>>33279478
yeah those eyes dont indicate exceptional health

funny that one of my eyelids sits lower than the other, too
i took an accidental headbutt just above the eye, had to get stitches, and the scar changed my eyelid :/

>>33279508
We are talking about eyelids and in the after they are more sunken which is the topic of the convo
>>33279509
Thanks for nothing

>>33279526
>Thanks for nothing
fuck you
get some sleep and stop eating trash, dumb wog

>>33279526
Sunken doesn't look bad. Generally it is considered more masculine to have deep set eyeballs but having a good chin is also masculine and can be attractive in women. You need to consider the whole picture. Film yourself moving around and talking, maybe. There are probably lots of things you could change that would be more impactful than this.

>>33279531
I told you my ethnicity has it

>>33279538
Well like I said even my only ever ex boyfriend insulted my appearance and praised a woman with hooded eyes. So a person who saw me irl

>>33279400 (OP)
>risk going blind to avoid hopping on a treadmill
Woman moment.

>>33279400 (OP)
>oh no! my eyelids!
>oh no! my jaw!

zoomers worry about the most asinine random body image problems

in 5 years people are gonna be elbowmaxxing or whatever where they fly out to korea to get elbow implants

I can't even tell what the difference is between the 2 sets of pictures

>>33279546
Useless comments since I am thin
>>33279583
Literally my boyfriend put me down while praising white(pointing out it wasn't yellow fever)celebrity women with hooded eyes aka the opposite of me

And people have been bullying me for this for a decade.

Why are you gaslighting me

>>33279606
your boyfriends sounds like a jackoff and you sound like a permavictim

oh no, your boyfriends thinks that attractive supermodels and attractive tik tokers and attractive female actors are attractive, that's fuckin wild and totally justifies random plastic surgery

>>33279544
It makes sense you feel that way considering that life story

>>33279606
>Useless comments since I am thin
Nothing to do with it. Wrinkles are caused by poor blood flow which is caused by a sedentary lifestyle.
There's no pill, you have to move around and make some effort.

>>33279614
I literally broke up with him after it. Yes I found him the most gorgeous man ever (he was also nice at first) so I want a man who sees me as that too
>>33279618
I said already multiple times people of my ethnicity and my parents have those eyes

>>33279620
>I said already multiple times people of my ethnicity and my parents have those eyes
None of them are in shape.

>>33279629
You have no source of that being reversed due to fitness. The YouTuber in op was also fit and still had them, oli sykes is fit iirc and has them

>>33279620
>(he was also nice at first)
spoiler: all abusive people are nice at first

girl you got loads of problems but your counter-clockwise eyebrows or whatever should be at the bottom of your list,.

>>33279645
I hear. I mean idk it was weird like he always was even kinda nice even in the end but not kind I guess, when I pointed out issues ever he would either try dismiss me/try to not answer/start crying irl and in text /voice call when we broke up he would hang up or ignore. Like when we broke up he was like oh you too poor to even live with me you should make this amount and when I was i do make this amount ignored.

Idk exhausting and uncaring to treat me like that(btw yes I was always understanding when raising my concerns he literally just refused to engage)

>>33279662
so why have you been making like 2-3 threads about him and his opinion about your eye lashes

>>33279695
It's not the eyelashes kek . I mean I loved him genuinely, like it is hard to to hate him since even his bad actions weren't bad enough to besmirch it

>>33279400 (OP)
Your boyfriend is garbage and risking blindness over anything other than a life-threatening condition is utterly stupid, don't do it.

>>33279737
Ex, I agree but will any man ever find my eyes beautiful,kinda deppressing

>>33279635
>>33279635
Of course I do, I had the same thing and it went away. And no, that pic you posted is a guy who isn't healthy at all, he's tatted up and his skin doesn't look good. The guy in your OP looks like he's on meth, something is wrong with his facial expression.

>>33280484
They both go to the gym and the YouTuber brags about sleeping well and having a stress free life how more healthy can you get

>>33280515
Some people go to the gym and lift weights only, which is ok but cardio is way more important for blood flow.

>>33280559
So what did you do to get rid of them

>>33279743
>>33279478
if picrel r ur eyes i find em hot

>>33280588
I mean thank you but most people don't think so

Still mad

>>33279400 (OP)
Unironically get a boyfriend with a good personality and who doesn't judge or liked to be judged on the basis of looks. Jesus fucking christ, the female mide of thinking is insanely toxic & obnoxious. Plz tell me what practical value does ' good looks' provide when there have been countless studies showing that the correlation between chad/Stacey tier looks and that if health,iq, personality, etc., are slightly positive at best , and 0 most of the time? Bitch, there are much larger existential threats that are going to plague humanity such as the Monopolization of AI like tech, demographic time bomb, mass inter ethnic violence, wars over resources like water, etc.. You seem to have a poor personality who judges men only for their looks rather than prioritising personality, character, temperament,etc., over looks

>>33281511
I mean I have to be attracted to him or else how am I supposed to you know

>>33283121
Shallow whores deserve shallow toxic men. Simple as.
There are plenty of good natured men but since you won't find them 'attractive', you're on your own in this shallow path that you've actively chosen. You can choose to exercise self-control over your urge to pursue only physically attractive men, but since you seem to have low iq with poor impulse control, I think your best bet is being pumped n dumped by chads & tyrones

>>33283145
You want something that requires me to have sex with you something I am not doing if I am not attracted to you

>>33283152
Learn to type properly

>>33283172
Properly

>>33279400 (OP)
Sweetheart, for the love of god get therapy before you get plastic surgery. I've said it before in your other thread, this level of mental illness + plastic surgery is a disaster waiting to happen, even if you would look better after surgery. You just aren't in the right state of mind to be making these kind of decisions.

I just want you to tell me honestly: do you think you are mentally healthy?

>>33284024
I don't make emotional decisions, this is just a discussion.
> Muh mentally healthy
Cringe insult accusation

>>33284107
I'm not trying to insult you