okay, so i'm a girl who traditionally dresses pretty feminine and cutesy (bows, ribbons, lace, dresses, etc.) and i don't think i'm ugly or anything. i don't know if this is a recurring or proper theme, since i don't get out too much. when i do, i like to doll up since i don't do it too often. i take care of myself well. but i've noticed, i've never been cat-called or hit on at all. my friends have though, and they dress more neutrally than than i do. sometimes i do notice stares or lasting looks. but they've never said or done anything. do you think some guys are less inclined or deterred from acting like that towards more traditionally feminine/cutesy girls? if so, why?

>>33279922 (OP)
Hm. They might genuinely see you as too innocent, which is a good thing.

You mention your friends getting catcalled, are you jealous of that attention? Or do you worry that them receiving it but not you implies that you’re too unattractive for it?

Men happily fuck women they find unattractive, especially when they’re insecure. Insecure men like insecure women.

>>33279954
>oh, no i'm not jealous of it!! i know it's a bad thing, but it's more the fact that i worry i'm not seen as pretty or attractive by guys.

>>33279922 (OP)
Men cat-call women who look sexy. You clearly go to great lengths not to look sexy.

>>33279922 (OP)
Simple numbers game.

Your friends are statistically in more environments than you are.
Therefore the probability of a loser harassing goes up due to them being more outgoing than you.

What you're attempting to insuate is you're not as attractive as them because of (bad) attention from dudes. It's a maladaptive insecurity.

>tldr you're literally mindfucking yourself and it's probably because you don't touch grass
>gurrrrlll you gotta G-check yo self if you thinkin cat calling a good thing, dudes who do are manchildren not a developed man

>>33279922 (OP)
I don't catcall, so I don't know. Most men are so starved for attention that if you approach them, they'll either do whatever you want in hopes of getting laid or expect a trap and brush you off. Staring from afar is about as close as it gets for me due to being conditioned not to disturb women.

>>33279922 (OP)
> i've never been cat-called
Are women mad at men are being respectful?

>>33279980
why did you green text this

>don't get catcalled
>"Why does no one catcall me?"
>get catcalled
>"Men are gross pigs. Stop objectifying me."

>>33279922 (OP)
Post pics of yourself. Black out your face or what ever but when asking a question like this what you actually look like matters.

>>33279922 (OP)
This was me. If you work somewhere, it's bound to happen at some point but not immediately. Catcalls or obvious stuff happen to insecure looking women more often than intimidating women. (i got more catcalls/obvious hits when i neglected my hygiene and self care)
The ones that scare me the most are the guys who you've never had a conversation with (as in, they didn't initiate or you didn't initiate) but ultimately decide that their limerance fantasies are real and treat you like you're available or a girlfriend to them. (as in sexual harassment and touching that you don't consent to and don't do to others?) even though you don't treat them any differently than a female or male coworker or have any substantial or notable relationship with at all.
Fucking creeps, but then again I ask those who I am interested out personally rather than play a game and make them initiate. Not a lot of women will do that. Maybe that approach might work for you if there is a guy that you're interested in? Just be open to rejection, and see what happens. Chances are, they might've been too afraid to ask.

>>33279990
>due to being conditioned not to disturb women.
>>33280043
>Are women mad at men are being respectful?
>>33280191
>>don't get catcalled
>>"Why does no one catcall me?"
>>get catcalled
>>"Men are gross pigs. Stop objectifying me."

you have all been buck broken to unbelievable levels holy shit lmao
imagine being this scared to just fucking breathe and live as a man. i know exactly who you are and what you look like in real life you cretinous creature. you are spiritually equal to a worm

>>33280421
>I make being obnoxious my entire personality
We know, woman

>>33279922 (OP)
It sounds like the way that you dress is somewhat coded as 'high-class' or at least not 'low-class'. Would you describe your friends' dress as 'low-class'? Catcalling and cold-approach hit on is a very low social class coded behavior, and the people who do it usually only do it to people who they perceive as similar to them and likely to be receptive to it.

It's not just dress, other things like body language play into it a lot.

>>33280195
Yeah pics would help. If you don't want to be in the pic, the clothes would be enough.

>>33280465
you are the woman in a mans body

>>33279922 (OP)
vast majority of guys don't catcall or hit on girls in public, especially younger guys
your style isn't appealing to the type of guy who still catcalls or hits on girls in public

>>33279922 (OP)
Nobody cat calls in this age because people get lawsuits for it.

Do you have big boobs? Show cleavage then and wear short skirts. I personally am EXTREMELY attracted to gal/bimbo types, with large hoop earrings, tight crop tops and long hair with bangs. You could spice yourself up with hoop earrings. Besides looks you probably surround yourself with introverted men, if you're interested in someone just talk to them and you'll drive them crazy. If you 100% want them, you can bewitch them by giving them some attention and then acting unavailable for some time. This is ridiculously dangerous, unfair, and you could induce someone to suicide by hooking them like this, it's pure evil.

>>33280421
just because you have the mental rectitude or whatever to resist social norms doesn't mean everybody does or even that they should for that matter.

>>33279922 (OP)
well hitting on women has been characterized as disrespectful as part of the all-encompassing symbolic murder of male identity that's been taking place for the past few decades so the only people who still do it are people who don't mind seeming disrespectful, which are usually not good people... it's a whole social labeling and/or optics thing... the reason your friends get approached is probably because they dress like stacies and you dress like a waifu so guys feel like they need to be more careful around you... but i guarantee you those guys who glance at you are secretly killing themselves over how they want to approach you... when it comes to male romantic expression it's all relative to the social viability of the act, it's easier to approach average women who seem more nonchalant and won't judge you for it, but if there's some dolled up princess waifu standing there it's kind of like, alright, if i talk to HER i'd probably get arrested...

>>33279922 (OP)
>>33279980
Could be that your look is too cutesy. Like, guys aren't very into bows, ribbons, and lace. Or it at least doesn't arouse them. Pretty to look at for some or many, yes. But maybe your look and demeanour just gives off an air of prettiness and cuteness. But not one that arouses men, leading to cat-calling.
Maybe they feel like it's too kiddy, too doll like?