My friend is on the spectrum and is incredibly stubborn, He wants to meet new people and get himself a girlfriend but as much as my friend group tries to give him solid advice he absolutely refuses to change anything he does to improve and doesn't listen to us even though he's always complaining and asking for help. I'm at my wits end and I don't know how to deal with him. I care for the guy, that's why I'm getting upset but as much as I try to be patient I'm seriously starting to get pissed off. I feel like he'd rather stab himself with a knife than listen to the suggestions we give him. He's been at this for years, a routine of using dating apps to talk to women and then he gets upset when it goes nowhere. He outright said himself that he knows that dating apps don't work for talking with people but he keeps using it because "it's the only thing he has" even though we suggested he go to /soc/ and make new friends there. Don't get me wrong, the guy is fun to be with and is a good guy. But my god the stuff he says sometimes can come off as incel talk and really grosses me out.

>>33282321 (OP)
>autistic
You don't. You can't.

>>33282321 (OP)
>We suggested he go to /soc/
Lmao. I am sure your willingness to help but that's a shit suggestion. You may as well send him into a dark alleyway to go and make friends with the angry looking druggies. /soc/ is full of bpd-coded narcs that would fuck his life up.

Anyway autists don't learn from suggestions. They learn through failure. He has to feel the burn of humiliation and the chill of social abandonment before he will get it through his head that his gay mental sub-routine is a flop.

Autists think only in black-or-white. You cannot get them to see shades of grey. You cannot get them to understand middle-roads or help them see the forest instead of the trees. Hell you can't even get them to understand idioms or analogies. They only understand 1s and 0's. Yes or no. It's so over and we are so back. Like a binary. That's why /r9k/ is called robot9000. They exist and think like robots.

The only way they will ever see shades of grey is when black and white gets shaken up and coalesces. That means the autist needs life to kick their ass. Hard. Very fucking hard. Then they are forced to shed the robot mindset and grow up into a human fast.

>>33282321 (OP)
>>33282335
>>33283199
All of you are objectively terrible people.
>He gives me incel vibes
>He can't be helped
>He needs to be humiliated and shunned
Wow, GREAT FUCKING SPECIMENS. It's no wonder autists just want to be left alone when human trash tries to "help" them by putting them down and acting like they're mutants.

>>33282321 (OP)
Find him autistic friends who have had more success that he can learn from. Neurotypical advice doesn't work for autists.

>>33283599
our friend group has like 3 other confirmed people on the spectrum and they can't reach him with their advice.

>>33283404
Nah. I treat autists like equals. If they reject advice and act like perpetual victims, then they can get criticized just like anyone else.

>>33282321 (OP)
Tell him to accept his fate and give up trying to find a woman.
t. autist

>>33282321 (OP)
>My friend is on the spectrum and is incredibly stubborn
You cannot.
> I care for the guy, that's why I'm getting upset
Fix that.

I am autistic, but I am not retarded. I know that stubborn feeling. When I experience it, I know I'd rather BE the problem than SOLVE the problem. Your friend lacks this awareness. The solution is to let him be the problem ... for someone else.

>>33283404
>Wow, GREAT FUCKING SPECIMENS. It's no wonder autists just want to be left alone when human trash tries to "help" them by putting them down and acting like they're mutants
You aren't autistic, dipshit. You see mutant as a negative, autists don't.
Being dismissed isn't the same as being insulted, and being mutant has no relation to being helped.
You're asshurt about being less normal than you want to be, and you're projecting onto people who don't share your problem.

>>33283868
In that case, your friend's kinda fucked then. Don't waste the effort. Feeding him advice that doesn't work just makes things worse.
>>33283897
We get it, you're neurotypical.
>>33284605
This x1000. Stubbornness is part of the job description. It's just how we are.
>>33284613
>You aren't autistic, dipshit. You see mutant as a negative, autists don't.
Spoken like a neurotypical. Autists generally either want to be accepted or left alone. Some may take being seen as a "mutant" as a mark of pride, but not all.

>>33284768
>Autists generally either want to be accepted or left alone.
Correct. And both are unrelated to being a mutant.

>>33284768
>We get it, you're neurotypical

See there's that black or white thinking bullshit. 'if someone disagrees with me, the autist, they must be the opposite; neurotypical!'

No I'm not a neurotypical at all, I have ADHD. Your people aren't the only divergents, pal.

>>33282321 (OP)
You can't cure autism and you aren't his therapist.
>>33285946
Lots of Autist think the term neurotypical is reserved only for them. That's what you get for that unhealthy media attention on that disorder.

>>33285968
>neurotypical
*neurodivergent