21yo bong, hate my country and heritage. starting to make me genuinely depressed. not a shitpost despite uk/france ‘rivalry’. always loved everything about france and its culture, i wish i was from there. it sounds ridiculous but nationality has always been important to me and that won’t change, i want to be proud of my people, culture and history but how can i when im english? it’s grey and depressing, ugly outside of rich areas, bad food, little traditional culture, notoriously uncivilised (not just chavs) and ugly people and are told we’re not a real ethnic group because our ancestors were mutts + the only ones who accomplished anything were recent immigrants. i want to be a proper european but we aren’t because of the anglosphere and there’s a level of sophistication you assume of euros that’s not present here. you can say that at least im white but it feels like taunting me more than if I weren’t, being so close to who i want to be but so far.

im not under any impression that france is completely what i idealise or any other west euro country is in a much better position but if im going to be a sad europoor surrounded by third world migrants id rather be one somewhere i adore. call me a fag but i value beauty and culture, france to me is the most beautiful country in appearance history and culture, leagues above the uk. but i know that i’ll never be a real frog and i hate that above all, i’m ethnically welsh/english and wasn’t born there. i’d be an unwanted pig migrating there but while i know there’s nothing i can do this hatred for myself and want to be french continues. can’t walk outside without feeling depressed. fuck i hate this shithole so much what can i do to stop thinking this way

>>33301312 (OP)
I can't say I agree with a lot of your post but I am also a Brit who wishes to live the rest of his days somewhere other than here because it's so fucking grey (the sky, the food, the people).
Luckily for you, the French are absolutely obsessed with the idea of civic nationalism. This means that if you adopt their culture and assimilate (and acknowledge that the French Way is the Right Way) they will accept you as French.

>>33301312 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odCBml5TuNI

>>33301312 (OP)
It's possible to live in much worse places. I'm of British ancestry and I grew up in a nasty, dried up hellhole where the economy is basically mining, sport, financialized real estate, and government; full of subhuman yahoos, grey-yellow plants that tear one's flesh and creatures large and small that will kill you. I now live in the UK and couldn't be happier.

>>33301340
i came off too harsh, i don’t hate the uk at all and actually a lot of me loves it and if my ‘ideal’ nationality is french then my second is english but its more like i love france so much everything else seems shit in comparison. the frogs being willing to accept anyone who integrates in reassuring but i honestly don’t think i could do it, it’ll always gnaw at me that i’m a bong.
>>33301672
where? was going to say australia but that’s got more opportunities. but yeah it’s very far from the worse place to be, even as standards are rapidly declining, glad you’re happy here. it’s probably harder for me to see being born here and from a shithole area.

>>33301312 (OP)
>t’s grey and depressing, ugly outside of rich areas, bad food, little traditional culture, notoriously uncivilised (not just chavs) and ugly people and are told we’re not a real ethnic group because our ancestors were mutts + the only ones who accomplished anything were recent immigrants. i want
and you think this is different from France?
>france to me is the most beautiful country in appearance history and culture
give me three examples if you don't mind

>>33301853
no i don’t think its too different i just think its preferable. its like choosing between a ham sandwich and a cheese sandwich, neither is objectively better but you’re always going to have a preference.
>give me three examples if you don’t mind
firstly i love the landscape. it’s similar to england but ours feels more quant and most areas are overpopulated, france is huge and full of greenery but also the coastal south and the alps. second i love the language, absolutely beautiful and very rhythmic. thirdly love the style of buildings and homes, there’s an elegance in a lot of their architecture the typical british building doesn’t have.

>>33301312 (OP)
just say you're anglo saxon. larp as a WASP or something

anyways i get what you mean and i salute you for realizing how gay England is.

>>33301312 (OP)
I was once like you, don't worry anon, you will get over it and start to appreciate some things about being british in a few years.

>>33301312 (OP)
watch Skins. stop after the first 4 seasons.
listen to some Spiritualized or Oasis or something.
watch some TopGear.
also watch The Office or Peep Show
you will love being a bong

>>33302438
i dont want to lie to myself i know i am half bong half sheepshagger and it kills me knowing how inferior i am
>>33302444
will there even be much of a britain left in a few years? my town is already something between islamabad, hyderabad and lagos.
>>33302458
the uk shown in those shows and music doesn’t exist today so it just makes me sad. only british talent i listen to anymore is karl pilkington talking shit on radio

>>33302490
>the uk shown in those shows and music doesn’t exist today so it just makes me sad
oh alright. damn. im just a canadian who enjoys british and scottish culture but i probably should've guessed that the media i mentioned depicts a different, bygone era

>>33302529
no problem. the kind of spirit shown in the music of oasis or songs like park life is mostly dead, same for the tv shows or any pre-2010s depiction of life here. i was just a kid then but even i can tell how fast things have changed and for the worse too.

>>33302490
brownoid here. just wanted to say that i sympathize
it's retarded how the rest of us are allowed to have our opinions about migrants coming to our home countries, but white Europeans aren't allowed to do so. i can go online right now and tweet "i want all kurds to GET THE FUCK OUT" and people would be like "hell yeah man it's your country". but if you did the same it's white supremacy lmfao. absolutely retarded

keep fighting the good fight

>>33302490
>will there even be much of a britain left in a few years?
Come on now, people were already dooming like this in 2017
>Captcha: NKSAR
Ok maybe it's fucked KEK

>>33302569
thanks. i can’t say i don’t get it, a lot of their homes were fucked by colonialism and it is unfair but i think most countries would want their ethnic group to remain the majority as they as the people who built the country and culture. even if they’re second gens with citizenship people will be hostile to towns becoming majority african or asian. just as its would be wrong for a place in china or uganda to become 70% bong.
>>33302578
i’ve watched it happen, it was like 60% english in my town in 2020 and now it’s probably 30-40%. english family moved out next door, nigerians moved in straight from africa. old abandoned school was demolished and instead of making something useful like a job centre to help the people in this shithole they built a mosque.

>>33302635
that sucks, i still have hope tho

>>33302635
>i can’t say i don’t get it
for sure. it's understandable. it just annoys me that you guys are the only ones on Earth who are held to this standard. for whatever reason, you're expected to understand the backstories of those who immigrate (en masse) to your country - while the rest of us aren't

i've seen countless people say that it's "cool" or "justified" that the British are being replaced in their own homeland because of what Britain did to the MENA region like several decades ago. as if the imperial British government represented the entire nation, and all of the British people who would ever live afterwards lmfao

the Japanese are allowed to be mad about foreigners, even openly hateful towards them. nobody brings up their WW2-era war crimes to try and justify migration to their land. we are allowed to be mad about Kurds, Pakis, whoever - nobody brings up how actively racist we are towards them, or how the Kurds don't even have a homeland. nobody brings up the atrocious things we did decades or centuries ago to silence our xenophobia

so why are white Europeans the only ones held to that standard? why aren't the rest of us held to the standard that you're held to? why are you the only group on Earth who's being persecuted and punished for shit that happened before any of us were born?

moreover - what really fucks with me is, despite everything, you still show compassion for the migrants replacing you. you speak about how colonialism affected the people moving to the UK. unlike literally anyone else on the planet, white Europeans show compassion and humanity for the people essentially invading their land - while the rest of us are allowed to freely exercise xenophobia and hate anyone who isn't us

two extremes, yes. we shouldn't be allowed to be so hateful and xenophobic, and you guys shouldn't be expected to embrace being replaced on your own land. the current state of things is a joke. sorry for rambling.

>>33302693
yeah it is annoying but i think people just don’t care. half of every white population hates themselves for being white while as non-white populations increase in western countries more than a few still hold onto their resentment or they just plainly prefer their own as most people do. you’re completely right though, hard to agree with any group being replaced, not the palestinians, not the ukrainians and not us in the uk.

reckon we’re held to such a standard because euro countries often have some of the highest standards of living and it’s a bargaining chip against the natives to make them feel bad so non-natives can come in and claim the culture as their own (why they insert themselves into histories they obviously aren’t apart of outside of colonialism, i don’t know, maybe to feel more like they belong, maybe insecurity of their own heritage) and often get paid for by the natives. but this falls apart when you realise the irish and scandinavian counties who haven’t been up to anything notable since the viking days get called upon to take their ‘fair share’. honestly jokes aside i don’t look down on or hate anyone for their race and i can’t hate people who haven’t had much luck in life and just want the best for themselves but it comes to a point where it’s ridiculous and it is an invasion. towns are being taken over by people who don’t want to integrate. a lot of the more integrated immigrants only hang around their own countrymen too (understandable and normal behaviour but still a bit awkward). they talk down to us, hate the ideals that made this country once prosperous and make us feel bad for existing in our own homes while living in it and using everything we made (though you could argue that a lot of our stuff came from the spoils of the empire). no need to apologise, im glad someone else who’s not white understands

bump

>>33304027