Do nice guys still exist? - /adv/ (#33301602) [Archived: 637 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:29:20 PM No.33301602
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Are still people who genuinely think that being nice to others will get them love or respect?
After endlessly getting shit on from all sides for the last few years people should realise that being nice only gets you used with no reward.
Is there any point to being nice in the world anymore?
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:30:35 PM No.33301606
>>33301602 (OP)
Yes, good people still exist despite what xitter might make you believe.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:32:04 PM No.33301609
>>33301602 (OP)
>1. You always give your dates gifts.
Failed here, stopped reading. Turns out I am not a nice guys. Bye
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:32:38 PM No.33301613
>>33301602 (OP)
Men who think they're owed sex still exist, yes. Just look around this website.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:33:04 PM No.33301617
>>33301602 (OP)
Are there*
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:33:40 PM No.33301619
>>33301602 (OP)
>People should realize that being nice only gets you used with no reward

And this is exactly why "nice" guys aren't actually nice. They give only to get. Their niceness is actually a passive debt, it's not actually genuine or real, it's just a covert ploy to make people do their bidding.

Actual kind hearted people don't expect reward from their good deeds. They do the kind thing because they already know it's the right thing to do. Nice guys don't give a fuck what the right thing is. They only care about whether or not doing the thing is convenient for them.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:35:16 PM No.33301624
>>33301613
Except they are not nice lol
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:37:14 PM No.33301628
>>33301619
Almost every human interaction is transactional, whenever people do something for others they always expect something in return in form of companionship or something material, your idea of being nice is idealistic. Only very few people are genuinely altruistic and don't care about what they get .
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:40:41 PM No.33301633
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Isn’t this an early 2000s topic? I thought nice guys were incels now
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:42:07 PM No.33301638
>>33301633
There are probably still delusional people like this
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:43:09 PM No.33301641
>>33301619
So how is being genuinely nice any different from being a doormat?
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:55:21 PM No.33301677
>>33301628
>Almost every human interaction is transactional, whenever people do something for others they always expect something in return in form of companionship or something material, your idea of being nice is idealistic

Right, and what you do is whenever someone tells you this, avoid them. Because the person who says "all interactions are transactional" is precisely the person who operates transactionally.

>So how is being genuinely nice any different from being a doormat?

Because they're not doormats, they have boundaries and know how to tell people "No". That's the difference between nice guys vs kind guys. Nice guys are weak. They only talk nice, but never do nice. Kind people aren't doormats for their free acts of kindness, because they're not having people walk on them, they are helping people get up. They do this because they actually care about the individual(s) they help. What "nice guys" do is they only care about what the other person can offer them in return. Their motivation for their niceness is entirely selfish.

Which nice guys never admit to. It's what makes them dishonest. They always mask their disagreeableness, that by default makes them dishonest people.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 9:00:39 PM No.33301697
>>33301602 (OP)
"nice guys" are not genuinely nice. They still expect pussy as a reward for like covering the shift of the hot girl who works with them so that she can go clubbing on the weekend and then act all psycho when they don't receive the pussy they thought they would get.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 9:01:37 PM No.33301699
>>33301602 (OP)
https://youtu.be/4TVTm5xfvjk?si=-UoqTY_9RmdL-rZP

Nice guy simulator
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 9:21:48 PM No.33301754
>>33301602 (OP)
I give kindness freely because I wish to be the change I wish to see in the world.
People can be jaded and horrible to one another, but unless given a reason not to I will always choose to be kind.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 9:24:17 PM No.33301762
>>33301754
Same
I know how much it suck when people are assholes to you, so I'm just kind to everyone.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 9:26:21 PM No.33301773
>>33301602 (OP)
I'm nice because that's who I am, I don't expect anything from it, I just enjoy being like this.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 9:28:48 PM No.33301780
>>33301773
Heaven forbid you act and treat others how you wish to be

As long as it's authentic, and not contrived or ill-intentioned for reward then that behavior is worth far more than gold and platinum
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 9:59:28 PM No.33301858
>>33301602 (OP)
Nice guys are a result of society indoctrinating boys into thinking their most valuable traits are restraint, empathy and compassion. Which while true in a cosmic sense, is not reflected in reality and these poor guys suckered into this thinking are maladapted to being desirable mates.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:00:33 PM No.33301862
I'm nice to people that are nice to me
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:03:30 PM No.33301872
>>33301602 (OP)
>Are still people who genuinely think that being nice to others will get them love or respect?
Well that's just it, people who are truly nice aren't doing it to get love and respect. They do it for its own sake.
What is described in your OP pic is a weakling, not a nice person. They may or may not be nice, but that isn't the point.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:07:42 PM No.33301883
>>33301602 (OP)
I think everyone has realized what "nice" is worth in modern culture.
Most people have moved on.
That was an era in time when people were more optimistic about gender equality, kindness, empathy, progressivism, and other ideals.
That era is dead. Everyone is moving on.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:23:56 PM No.33301943
>>33301677
>Right, and what you do is whenever someone tells you this, avoid them. Because the person who says "all interactions are transactional" is precisely the person who operates transactionally.
You operate transactionally too idiot, you just don't realize it. The reason you act nice can be both conscious and instinctual, but it's still self-serving in the end.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:35:45 PM No.33301994
>>33301883
This
Modernity is a lie
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:44:22 PM No.33302043
>>33301943
surely there's a distinction between "self-serving" with kindness vs with selfishness
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:45:04 PM No.33302049
>>33301602 (OP)
Being nice does get you love and respect.
Be around better people if it doesn't.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:51:51 PM No.33302077
Your boomer grandpa who is currently donating all of the money that you could inherit to the local church and his alma mater to make sure you are left with nothing. He still believes in being a nice guy :)
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:52:06 PM No.33302078
>>33301602 (OP)
yeah like chang "mommy took my free housing away" boon's thread
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 11:30:58 PM No.33302230
>>33301943
>You operate transactionally too idiot, you just don't realize it.
You don't get to tell me what I am able or unable to realize of myself, fuck off with the gay gaslighting.

>The reason you act nice can be both conscious and instinctual, but it's still self-serving in the end.

Then you have never sacrificed anything in your life then. That's what it means to truly give; when you give something that costs you without anything in return to cover the loss. Whether that's time or money or energy.

If you give $100 to a homeless man, that's nice. But if you had $10,000 in your pocket anyway, it's not much of a sacrifice at all.

If you give $10 to a homeless man, but it was the last $10 you had to your name, it's a true sacrifice and counts for more than the $100.

Same is true for things besides money. People who give out of true sacrifice give while full well knowing it costs them, there's no reward, and it might even feel bad doing it, but they do it anyway. That isn't a transaction. Transaction is you get something out of it. Kindness means you get nothing from it. You do it because it's hard but also it's the right thing to do.

Nice guys can't seem to fathom this basic concept. Because they always assume every action is done to generate adulation or a reaction from someone else. Especially if it's a 'reward' like praise or loyalty or whatever goody good thing they're after.

Which is fine btw. Some people you can have a transactional relationship with, others a free and pure reciprocal bond. But nice guys people please everyone into emotional transactional dynamics. Their girlfriends, their family, their friends, their bosses or coworkers, everyone. It's fucking insane.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 11:46:13 PM No.33302275
Yes. Basically just incel-type behavior where they act nice and agreeable because they see interactions as more of a transaction than anything.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 11:58:03 PM No.33302290
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>>33301602 (OP)
>Do nice guys still exist?
Yes, it's called having an anxious sttachment style.
Zach
7/2/2025, 12:13:31 AM No.33302327
I'm one of them, and I hate it.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 1:17:13 AM No.33302593
>>33301602 (OP)
The whole nice guys finish last thing is a black pill lie designed to drag you down. Being nice in general makes people more willing to be nice back, and even help you if you need it. The trick is that you have to be genuinely nice. If you're just being nice because you want something, people will pick up on that.

I have the trust and respect of my coworkers and a good amount of the people in my small town because I am a genuinely nice. There have been many times where people have done things for me, or stuck their necks out for me, because I am well liked and respected, all without me even having to ask.

If you are a nice person worthy of trust, people will naturally be more willing to work with you, and even help you out if you need it. If you're a complete dick to everyone around you, people will naturally avoid you and treat you with hostility. It's simple human nature.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 1:24:24 AM No.33302607
>>33301762
What about when someone is currently being an asshole to you? Are you still nice?
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 1:51:16 AM No.33302686
Women are just retarded. It's crazy to me how this works. I used to treat this girl like shit, because I genuinely hated her, and thought she was aloser, and she loved me for it. She kissed my ass, and would go to any length for me. Always complimented me, hit on me, and was as sweet as possible. I gave her nothing back for two years but disrespect, and she worshipped me like a God for it. After a certain point, I began to feel bad for her, so I'd grace her by talking to her a bit, instead of giving her one word answers, and ignoring her. Eventually disgust turned into pity, which turned into appreciation, which turned into admiration, which ended with me realizing I kind of liked her. So I started being nice to her, and about 2 weeks later she was completely over me.

I could have kept on treating g her like shit, and she would have kept on worshipping me until the end of time.

Never treat a woman with respect. They want you to walk all over them, spit on them, and smear dogshit in their face. You treat her like a human being, and she will lose respect for you.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 1:53:33 AM No.33302698
>>33302230
Different anon, I get the distinction you’re attempting to paint—but to just do something for the sake of the other person is also self serving, even if it’s not obvious. There’s an inherent reason people do it, and that’s to gain societal trust. Is it wrong? Irrelevant, multiple people benefit so the transaction is beneficial for the whole. And to remove the pressure of the expectancy makes people want to give, which is what everyone wants. It would be nonsense otherwise. It would be like watering a plant and it never grows, we want the plant to grow, because it brings something for us too.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:02:07 AM No.33302736
>>33302686
Anon, that’s text book narcissism. You can be real and have disagreements. But you trying to find that balance was good on your part, just don’t fall into the dark trap. A good read about this is Models by Mark Manson. I wish you well.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:15:51 AM No.33302795
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>>33301602 (OP)
>Are still people who genuinely think that being nice to others will get them love or respect?
It may not win you love and respect from the people you're being nice to, but generally people like nice people. That doesn't mean be a doormat or a pushover, but you should be willing to help people in need. I try to carry myself like a benevolent noble in a land of peasants. Everyone is just so helpless, that I can't help but assist them as they flounder. I ask for nothing in return because I don't need them. For me, it's a matter of pride.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:17:10 AM No.33303510
>>33301641
One has boundaries, one does not. If someone you know is perpetually begging you for money for "food", everytime the doormat will give them money. The genuinely nice person will take them to a food bank to call their bluff while still helping.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:34:03 AM No.33303580
>>33301602 (OP)
The concept of a "nice guy" is subjective, so the discussion is people talking past each other. The OPs image is such a useless mishmash of different personalities, it's even worse than usual.
1) There are the guys who call themselves "nice guys" but they are annoying stuck up incels who silently judge everyone around them, and act passive aggressive and weaponize incompetence. They like to ramble about how they hate drinking, sports,dancing, traveling, anything fun, and they expect you to think that makes them morally superior and "nicer" than the guys that do enjoy those things. They often refuse to reflect on how offputting and unattractive their personality and grooming habits are, and deflect that everyone just hates them because they are "too nice".
2) There are women who don't think and lack basic observational skills and just call any guy they find unattractive a "nice guy". Just man-haters who think all awkward men are secretly evil.
3) Narcissistic fuckboi liberal men who make a show of being a SJW but are douchebags get labeled "nice guy syndrome".