>be me, almost 21, Asian cuck, HCOL state
>rising senior, CS major at big state school
>completely jobless, parents pay for tuition and housing because I'm not a wagie yet
>manage to find a house with a bunch of white fratboys for senior year
>was hyped to get out of the house for another year and not be a NEET
>get assigned the attic room since I was the last to join the lease
>whatever, a room is a room, has windows and a door, idgaf

>make mistake of telling Asian immigrant parents, and they have a COMPLETE FUCKING MELTDOWN
>"IT'S NOT A LEGAL BEDROOM ANON! WHAT IF THERE'S A FIRE? WHAT IF THE LANDLORD GETS SUED?"
>tell them it's like underage drinking, literally everyone does it and no one gaf
>they call me a "stupid idiot" for even agreeing to it, say they'll stop paying my rent and tuition if I don't back out
>"in American, it's important that you follow the law"

>shit gets so crazy they call a lawyer, who literally tells my mom on the phone to chill the fuck out and let me grow up
>thought I won, but they double down even harder after the call
>mom, known for being a drama queen (and was a covidian during COVID), starts literally crying about how worried she is, dad gives me the "I'm so disappointed" speech

>we argue for days, parents won't budge no matter what
>had to cave and tell the boys I couldn't move in
>found a replacement tenant last-second
>boys were cool with it, just irked af

>now it's fucking July
>all decent housing is gone
>I am now officially commuting from home for my entire senior year, my social life is dead on arrival

I feel completely humiliated. Parents are acting all smug like "you'll thank us for this one day!", and think I'm an ungrateful shithead. This has gotten pretty intense, with screaming matches etc.

Am I a retarded cuck who isn't ready to live on my own? Should I just suck it up and be grateful for the free ride? Or did my parents fuck my life over?

>>33301791 (OP)
They do have a point about the fire though. You will literally die.

>>33301800
The attic has a smoke detector, a fire extinguisher, and like 2 windows. I've seen the place. Worst case scenario I'd be willing to pay for stuff like an escape ladder.

Sorry anon, but I'm with your parents on this. The fact that they're paying for your school and housing gives you a HUGE advantage compared to your peers who have to worry about student debt. Considering it was their money that would be paying for your apartment when you have a perfectly good room at home, its ingratitude to not respect their wishes regarding this. Being a commuter student really isn't such a huge deal, you should be focused primarily on your studies and lining up a job anyway.

>>33301844
OK anon fair. Agree to disagree. But the way my parents went about this pisses me off. For further context they're the controlly Asian type who like telling me what not to do. Such as, I didn't even have any electronics of my own, or the password to any household electronics, until HS.

Also it's not the end of the world just so long as people move out of their living arrangements for whatever reasons (that's how I got housing last yr for spring only)

Still, I'm just irked that I'm probably going to end up being a virgin for all my college years since I can't take a girl to my bed or whatever tf. Same happened with me during HS (though tbf I was even more of a sped retard then).

In the house I lived in junior spring I got to make lots of friends who weren't chink/pajeet stemcels, and even the ones who were chinks, pajeets, and/or stemcels were actually fun people with social lives and stuff who went to bars and stuff, and not antisocial antisex goblins like the ones I've roomed with previously.

My childhood home is in one of those good school district suburbs but there's just nothing to do in miles and I'll miss living in a walkable college town where I can get boba or sandwiches in a jiffy. If I commute (and I have in the past), I'll have to buy a parking pass, park in the commuter lot in the middle of nowhere, take a fucking bus to my classes since the commuter lot is so fucking far from anywhere, etc.

tfw adulting literally turns you into a yimby

>>33301903
what's stopping you from spending the night with a girl at her place, or going into town with friends after your classes are over instead of coming right back home, or just doing it on the weekends?

And yeah I get your frustration, but just try to have some perspective on what a boon your parents are giving you by providing all of this for free, and pushing you to excel. Not everyone gets this kind of opportunity or a family that wants them to succeed.

>>33301977
My school has like nearly 0 overnight parking spots lol

Socialization is a nightmare

Like how tf am I supposed to go to bars with my homies if I need to spend a bit sobering up and stuff

Also my parents enforce a curfew (though that might be easier to talk them out of)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZX41fUMGzU
maybe you'll scoop sth up in september or octobre

>>33302017
Are there no commuter trains or busses between your hometown and the city?

>>33302037
no, it's a middle-of-nowhere slumburban boonie college town that's like 40 minutes away from my own boonie suburb in optimal traffic conditions

always been a republican (though also closet lgbt, my parents and friends have always sorta talked me into voting red, looooong story), but maybe those (((globohomo lesbian hollanders))) had the right idea with their "15 minute cities" and shit

>>33302060
>those (((globohomo lesbian hollanders)))
You shouldn't say crap like this even as a joke. It's wrong. Also if you're gay then why are you stressing about taking a girl home?

So some more bg for context:

My folks found me this place last yr through WeChat. Seemed ok: nice renovated suburban house, own room, quiet, 10 mins away. Sweet deal to get away from dorms/doubles?

LL seemed great at first, said he wanted other students (Chinese intl, but was open to other chinks, like me). Was the first one to move in, 1 Aug 2024.

Red flag #1: it's just LL's wife + her sisters. Am the only non-family member in the house. They speak Chinese 24/7. My own conversational Chinese is shit-tier. I was in a tankie phase att so it was kinda sobering ngl.

Soon actual students finally arrive from China. I'm like "great, people my age". But nah, they speak Chinese only, are cucked af, I'm still the odd one out.

Then the real shit starts.
>LL shows up unannounced, many times a week
>LL got cameras in all the common areas, constantly being watched
>On a call with my friends, one bitch comes to my locked door, starts screaming at me for being loud at 11pm
>Same bitch videos me calling my mom bitching about em, posts it in the house-wide GC by one of the LL's relatives
>I get sick (tested negative for everything). They treat me like I got the plague, make my life miserable.
>They (in-laws AND students) threw my kitchenware out because I left it out one night. Even when I was at my part-time job.

Final straw: get a text from mom at work. LL went through camera footage, saw someone go outside at 2 AM, assumed it was me doing drugs, and gave her a mouthful. Took the bitch to confirm it was her friend for them to stfu.

Mom first told me to "suck it up and learn to compromise." Took till Oct before she finally agreed to help me break the lease. Spent rest of fall sem commuting before moving into a frat house.

So, /adv/, how fucked up was this on a scale of 1 to 10? Was I just being a sensitive bitch who can't handle a "different culture," or was I paying rent to live in a paranoid, high-surveillance, Mandarin-speaking panopticon run by a wannabe CCP chairman?

>>33302126
We're on fucking 4chan anon. I'm not actually Nazi and shit. I'm unironically rooting for Israel in the great sand battle of currentyear.

And I never said I was gay, retard.

The liking 15 minute cities thing is bonafide tho. Like I've been to my relatives' places in China so ik what "15 minute cities" have the potential to look like.

Too bad I live in fucking burgerland.

>>33302149
you can't outrun who you are, chang.
maybe you should retvrn, and give up on this ambition of yours to steal native american lands.

>>33302161
I unironically wanna do this ngl. Like I think now that I'm isolated from the previous batch of fratbros (and students in general) for the summer, my aforementioned tankie phase is starting to roar alive again. I've reinstalled Bilibili (and found the leaked SpongeTom episode there since I didn't catch it the first time around here). Too bad the ceiling to immigrating there is high af (and rightfully so, probably).

Like I can barely even land entry-level jobs in America. If I were like a handful of years postgrad and was able to poz out to E or SE Asian for remote work, ofc I'd do that. Best of both worlds ig.

Too bad it's like so hard to move literally anywhere outside of my childhood bedroom and my stupid suburb. I just want a damn place so I can jerk off in peace, how is doing this that hard?

Have we reached peak capitalism or am I just retarded

>>33302160
If youre not gay then what are you?

>>33302194
settling for some shallow, short-term economic meta over ancestral land is an utterly total personfail imo.
that's what brought your parents to america in all likelihood.
>If I were like a handful of years postgrad
pretty gay mindset when you could be going this year or e.g. at least as soon as you hit your next diplom milestone.
I'm sure land in china or wherever you're from specifically (does rly rly sound like china but ok) really isn't so expensive or hard to get, not in the way it is in the american colony.

>>33302207
kek

>>33302207
kinky (probably bi in vanilla terms)

>>33302227
china has even more failure-to-launch neet zoomers than the us, since getting into a good school/getting a good job/affording good-quality housing is even more pozzed over there. they even have specific terms for it like "lying flat", "retreating inwards", and "mouse people". have a cousin like that coming up on 30.

chinese zoomers with the means are literally "fleeing to america" for undergrad/grad (and my aforementioned dipshit roommates would indeed be among them). but oftentimes due to visa sponsorship issues in this economy, they end up just coming back to china, and employers over there eat it up since they're like "ooh, american degree, shiny!".

i'm just fucking pissed that what are supposed to be the peak years of my life are being screwed over by my parents. it's a long story that's practically a doofenshmirz backstory, but my mom always fucked up my life by putting me in sperg classes, giving me aides, making me ride the fucking short bus, encouraging me to play with only other chinese + autist kids, etc. they're not in country clubs and they're not wine moms or anything. they're chinese mofos with christian values and they sure don't fuck around. i could've been normal if my parents hadn't fucked my life over, as they still do today.

maybe if they hadn't pissed me off so much i wouldn't have ended up so autistic that i had to go to a sped school. maybe i could've done more ap courses, and gotten into a better uni. maybe i could've gone to sleepaway camp and scouting and been more outdoorsy, or even just gone camping with my dad at least once like he never ended up doing.

(also sorry for being racist jannies, won't do again)

>>33302274
>what are supposed to be the peak years of my life
complete meme, when I was your age I was a depressed neet college dropout, and now I'm rich and successful. Every year of my 30s has been better than the corresponding year in my 20s. You might find it hard to believe, but you really do have your life ahead of you, and you're just a baby. Your life isn't over because you didn't party more your last year of college. You're really going to have your hands full with your capstone project and networking to get a job anyway.

>>33302274
I mean, I get some of this bc I'm part mixed w/ asian, smaller part though and not in a colony but living in my actual homeland.

Hmm best I can suggest is take it a bit easier on school / party life and learn emotional and mental control from Chan or Daoism? Either could work pretty well for you depending on your particular genetic history. Like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwF6vgOWGAY
Chan is pretty good and broad. Has some Western extants, and also Korean. (The Japanese are more... insular lol. But still very Chan.)

>>33302287
How to have fun when either stuck in a perma 9-5 corpogrind, or suffering from being broke from being unable to join a perma 9-5 corpogrind?

Because the way the job market is looking now, it seems like a lot of my early 20s are literally gonna look like now. Even if I do join a 9-5 corpogrind, if said corpogrind doesn't compensate me well enough.

Again I live in a major metro area. Which might seem nice if there are more jobs and more money. But like I said, luck is NOT on my side, and I'm not landing shit.

Think I'm already quite disadvantaged by being a short Asian from a strict Asian parenting background. Can barely even pull in what's supposed to be the best place in life to pull. Probably gonna be even worse once I kiss "campus life" goodbye.

I just have a hard time looking forward to the future. My end goal is to marry and have a few kids who I can raise better than my parents raised me.

Sometimes I even fantasize about moving "back" to China even though I had the privilege of being born in the US, but reality quickly catches up once a) I realize how pozzed even Chinese zoomers are, b) I observe China's high bar for immigration, and c) did I ever mention I've had some poor experiences with Chinese internationals?

tfw cs major in 2025

>>33302300
what's funny is the whole deal of not getting my preferred housing + preferred summer internship (+ general desperation / hopelessness) actually motivated me to return to this local christian young adult missionary fellowship thing like halfway between my house and my campus, simply out of having little else to do.

i used to attend that group during like years 1-2 of college instead of partying. dk wtf i was thinking in retrospect, like i had my ONE chance to "set things right", and i wasted it. think it might've been because of wanting to larp as conservative at the time (it was 2022 and we were still dealing with COVID aftereffects, including mask mandates for everything). like it was well off campus, and i lacked a car at the time (btw "my" current car is my dad's car), so the leaders had to take turns driving me + a few others there and back.

i mean i've made friends there, and networked there and stuff, so it's not all bad. and the leader dgaf either even though i've dipped, flaked, and double-crossed him zillions of times (am honestly half there for the food lol). it's one of those chinese churches too, i have relatives who attend that same church's services, and i even went to the same church's sunday school with a bunch of other chinese zoomers when i was in like middle school. (pretty sure the rationale for that one was my mom wanting me to, in her words, "learn to be a person" after being relocated to some sped school at the time, but i digress again).

>>33302304
It's really astonishing how much you deny your privilege, or rather whine that you aren't more privileged.

>>33302328
you really don't know fuck all about life if you're happy to compare chan to christianity, maybe you just need some more humility as tends to come with age.

>>33302348
Well both of them call each other false religions, and themselves the only true path to salvation

Appreciate the conversion attempt ig, but unlike Protestantism or even other Christian branches idrk anyone who's into this irl

And overall my gripe is trying to escape being an unwilling prude/asian (many here are unfortunately seeming prudish, our generation is pozzed af), so idrt prudemaxxing/asianmaxxing is gonna help me in any way

>>33302304
Shouldn't you be excited for graduating and starting your career? This is what you've been working for all these years. Do you even want to be doing CS?

>>33302540
I mean yeah? But also in a way I'm not looking forward to adulting/living my own life. I'm gonna miss frat parties, keg stands, my stupid dining hall meal plan, being able to talk to girls easily, good urbanism, being able to get away with being a novice, the Asian clubs at my school and the events they host, being able to dickride off mom's wallet without being a loser, etc.

I just don't know, sigh

>>33302420
yeah I grew up catholic lol, my conclusion was it's not working and never going to work. my family "actually tried" for several hundred years (much more OG christian than your family :pppp), but this shite doesn't go anywhere good.

Tell your parents about all the times you've learned from the classes you were in. Tell them how technologically advanced you have become to where the government may use you one day, and that will get them quiet. What is happening is they are not seeing the practicality of your education. That is what you have to prove. Shine a light on this and prove the frat house you are with are doing good things too.

Just got back from another post-dinner screaming match with my parents

But their main concern was that they thought I was being whiny and "ungrateful"

You know, after I called them out for telling me "no" ALL MY FUCKING LIFE? I.e. putting me through sped autist hell for all of childhood, turning me into a basketcase courtesy of Local Public Schools, and hindering my independence all the way to today?

My dad was like "ANON! YOU BETTER BE GRATEFUL BECAUSE I SPENT THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS TO BRING YOU TO DR. SMILES WHEN YOU WERE THREE, AND I WAS FUCKING UNEMPLOYED ATT!"

They were being dickish hypocrites throughout the whole thing, like this whole convo started over the deg of assimilation needed for new US immigrants, in which they were in favor of assimilation, then it went to whether Asians were being discriminated against due to their introversion etc. or whether they had to work 4x as hard to overcome it. And then a few minutes later they were like using the Chinese values thing to justify not being a dick about the Chinese landlord place but being a dick about the place with the attic.

And then they all went on to mock me for my lack of a (paid) job in 2025, and threaten to withhold my tuition for next year if I didn't stfu and lick their feet

>>33302613
sadly it's too late already. they literally already won lmao

>>33302914
Alright, well good news for you. You have courses you can transfer from that university. Given of how you took classes at the USA, Chinese universities will gladly transfer over a ton of your classwork. Check transfer equivalncies.

The last point I want to make is, OP you have a lot of coursework done at 21. Im slower than you being a Junior at 30. Being forced to retake a course here and there will not be that big of a deal. You're barely a young adult at that age even though you are 45 in a 21 year old body and I am 12 in a 30 year old body.

>>33302274
>kinky (probably bi in vanilla terms)
have you ever actually had sex with another man? If no then you're not really bi.

>>33302810
I'm hearing your version of the argument which necessarily has you describe things more favorably to your side, and you're still coming off as an ungrateful little shit.

>>33301791 (OP)
Ungrateful bastard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filial_piety

>>33303058
I've literally got only 1 more year of school. It's not worth it. I could go for grad, but literally everyone I've talked to, from family members to internet strangers, agree it's a horrible ass idea.

And frankly I'm not even sure if Chinamaxxing is even right for me. Like, did you miss the part where, idk, I bitched about Chinese roommates and their inability to have fun? Which my Chinese parents once were?

It'd probably be funner for y'all since y'all are probably white and can woo more people from speaking broken Mandarin than an ABC can ever possibly accomplish?

>>33303074
My issue isn't keeping up with coursework. Got plenty of A's and a few B's / C's on my transcript. My issue is landing a CS (not even necessarily SWE) job in today's pozzed job market. Like I've even been landing interviews for data analyst or QA roles that pay only 50k/yr and am getting turned down. Fucking sucks.

>>33303097
I'm a kissless virgin lmao. For either gender. But I've done some solo kink stuff.

>>33303105
Literally OP is a fucking genius what makes him think going to a university with 3/4 of his courseload transfered would be a big deal? I get it he'll be 24 or 25 but my older brother was 27 when he got his bachelor's. All that is gonna happen OP is you are going to a different university with a bit more supervision. Added, despite what a lot of people say you can be gay and Christian.

>>33303131
a gay christian chink in america, lmfao

>>33303131
I can barely fucking do LeetCode mediums. I'm one of those GPT-brained idlers.

I stopped being able to rightfully claim my "genius" card despite early mathematical prowess (like knowing what imaginary numbers, the Fibonacci sequence, and Eulerian paths were in 2nd grade), as well as some specific art talent I won't powerlevel too much on.

Like, what kinda """""genius""""" gets sent to sped middle school that "improved my behavior" by literally putting me on the laptop to play coolmath games all day instead of doing actual coursework, for spazzing out in the main office, and needing 5 women (including the Vice Principal) to pin me down for chimping out?

(Huh, maybe THAT'S where the kink stuff comes from.)

>>33303134
Surely the US could use one less of those, I reckon?

>>33303153
Someone with an IQ of 145...

>>33301791 (OP)
Oh no, you have to commute to your senior year of college so you graduate with a degree, a privilege that 92% of the world's population will never have, living for free with your parents who care about your future and are putting you in the best position possible to succeed when they're gone. Is having to commute to an institute that hands out literal golden tickets to people who are statistically in the highest echelon of financial earners on the planet too inconvenient for you? Please, OP. Use your mind.

>>33303175
And an EQ of negative infinity, if my Chinese parents are to be believed

(Their EQs would be negative Graham's number and negative TREE(3) respectively)

>>33301844
getting shitfaced with classmates is like 95% of my employment I've gotten by reference. this is bad advice. you need to study, but you also fucking need to meet people and make good friends.

>>33303130
>I'm a kissless virgin lmao. For either gender.
just as I thought, you're not bi, you just wanted to fit in with your LGBT friends or feel different. Time to grow up and be honest with yourself.

>>33303199
Nah I'm bona fide kinky, even if it's with a man. And no way I'm doing that shit at my Asian house 40 minutes away from college, like how tf is that even supposed to work?

>>33303379
what do you mean by "kinky" exactly? You are terminally online, so have a porn addiction that fostered the development of extreme and bizarre fetishes?

>>33303480
I just wanna try something with someone, that's all

>>33303694
either explain what "something" means or fuck off

>>33303767
kinky sex

are you fucking dumb

anyways living at home is gonna make that fucking hard to do

i'm not looking forward to either senior year or life after college

>>33303778
kinky sex is a meaningless term. There are a million different kinks.

>>33303864
Well they're irrelevant to the current conversation at hand lmao

You motherfuckers need Confucius.

>>33303976
Anon what part of "I had an uncomfortable experience living with Chinese people at a prior apartment living situation with Chinese characteristics" (ditto my Asian parents) didn't you (and many others in this thread) understand

>>33302149

>>33301791 (OP)
Live on their money, play by their rules.

Don't like their rules? Get a summer job now and a part-time jub during the year, and pay your own way. That's how literally millions do it.

>>33303195
Yeah ever wonder why frat bros often have it better in career than shut-in stemcels, even if the latter are objectively smarter than the former?

>>33301791 (OP)
A CS major in 2025, you poor thing. Anyways, all your problems with parents will be solved with money, they'll lose all their leverage. Getting a good job is hard af now, but you're headed down the right path with grinding leetcode. I got no other advice that you havent heard, good luckout there man

t swe in corpo grind

>>33304707
Yeah I do frequent /utwg/

OK attic aside, is it normal for parents to do this other shit, though? I'm trying to figure out if my situation is standard-issue "strict immigrant parents" or if it's some next-level psychological ops.

>Be me, literal toddler
>Apparently throw tantrums like every other fucking 3-year-old
>Parents + school immediately say I'm "sped"
>Entire childhood becomes a "special needs" containment protocol
>Have a 1:1 aide glued to me from K-6, can't take a shit without supervision
>Forced to ride short bus and sit at peanut free table
>Parents ban me from joining normal Boy Scouts or going to normal summer sleepaway camp (the YMCA one, not some bougie shit), demanding I join the "special" versions or none at all
>My entire social life was engineered af, they encouraged me to only hang out with other Chinese kids or the other autists from my sperg classes

My whole "basketcase" personality and rage-meltdowns in middle school (which got me expelled) ain't surprising considering they spent a decade treating me like a defective lab rat and then acted shocked when I started biting the scientists.

Is this just normal "tough love" from boomer Asian parents who don't know better, or am I actually being mindraped and fucked over? Trying to figure out how much of my current "retardation" is my fault vs. a feature programmed into me by them.

>>33305331
This is pretty much exactly what my boomers did to me and I'm white as silk and in Europe as a European.
Try feature programmed into you by the school system and programmed into your parents to program into you. You think China is bad LOL.

>>33304983
I guarantee the person who had chatgpt make this has never worked a factory job. Its shit.

PhD student here. I commuted my senior year of undergrad because of an internship in my parents' town and ended up fine, even if I missed out on a lot of time with my friends in their last year. Stay involved with your university clubs and whatever community you have in town. I skimmed the thread, if you're Christian stay involved with your church in your parents' town. If there's no girls to date there, consider exploring other churches.

Are you going to do grad school? If so, apply on the other side of the country so you have no choice but to move. Socialization doesn't end at undergrad.

>>33306116
Grad school is a bit of a "maybe" (I'm doing CS as opposed to a hard science), but probably fruitful for my specific field of CS (data science). Should probably be seriously taking the GRE soon honestly. Not sure where to even go or how far my current 3.6 GPA will take me, though; if I'm failing to land internships even after successfully landing interviews, it's not exactly a whitepill.

And even if I do go to grad school, I wonder if I should just do it within driving distance of my metro area to save (mom's) money. Maybe my folks genuinely are "going broke because of [their] generosity which you're ungrateful for".

Being a grad student sounds icky though. Like some of those antisocial antifun puritan Chinese folks I roomed with were grad students (OK only 1 of them was but you get the point), and oh yeah, there was another "quiet" house I toured where the students were white but also grad students and kinda on the quiet side (who had high expectations for cleanliness etc.) And apparently the classes are filled with Indian and Chinese internationals.

I just feel like I'm suffering from a severe case of arrested development, and I have reason to believe that my parents bear a huge share of the responsibility (along with my school district, and the US itself). I feel as if I'm always sitting on the sidelines rather than actually playing on the field. I wanna get out there and actually live life. Play golf with a bunch of dudes, get wasted, have literally any kind of sex with the person of my dreams. The 0.5% chance of some attic fire happening is not nearly the catastrophe my overprotective mom thinks it is. Remember, we're talking about sb who can't even sit in the passenger seat of a car without getting motion sickness, or who forced me to wear a mask on a hiking trail in 2020 even though an outdoor mandate didn't exist because "the trail is less than 6 feet wide".

Avicii's dad wanted him to live a life he'd remember. Mine wants me to be a cuck.

>>33306097
Tell that to Trump lol

>>33301791 (OP)
i personally think they overreacted but you're pretty much at their whim if they're paying for your tuition and housing. ESPECIALLY if they're paying for the housing, actually, because if that's what they're paying for you shouldn't be stuck in a shitty room.

sorry about your social life, though. a huge part of college is branching out, meeting people, socializing and networking. your parents robbed you of that.

you have the right to be angry about it but at the end of the day it's your parent's call.

>>33306097
i work in a factory. it's not that bad, but only because im in college and eventually i will be able to escape. if i had no choice but to work there my whole life, id be miserable. ive seen what years of factory work does to a man. it's not pretty

>>33301791 (OP)
Reading your post made me mad on your behalf
>but your parents are paying for your college!
>so you have to gladly accept the humiliating developmentally-retarding shit they want you to do!
so dumb
if they knew what was best for you they would praise your initiative and independence but they like your dependence on them. Many such cases, sorry it happened to you anon

>>33306516
One of the biggest lies I feel like I was ever sold was the notion that everything would get better once I turned 18 and I was off to college and no one could "come and get me". Like that's literally the quintessential "it gets better" line they sell to repressed closeted LGBTQ folk like me to stop them from killing themselves in their teens.

Not sure if it has to do with me selecting a university close to home as if it were an asset, the job market/economy for zoomers sucking in general, or general genuine retardation/faggotry/immaturity on my part, but I just don't think I really ever got around to experiencing that sort of independence. Like I'm walking into adulthood with a chain around my neck held by mom and dad.

They can literally still access my bank account and stuff since I opened it years ago as a high schooler, and then go on to act like it's a perk or convenience. I've literally had to resort to buying Amazon Gift Cards using cash at a 7/11 in a sketchier part of town in order to buy stuff like sex toys and shit.

I mean part of me feels that's like wrong, I've gotten nervous even doing it that way, and if I were actually bonafide Christian rather than just being there for the food, networking, and "misguided desire to be conservative", I would've been like "oh that's a sign God's telling me not to commit sexual sin". Which is probably what my mom thinks, even though our branch of the family doesn't even come close to being the most religious. And I'm sure the christcucks above would agree.

>>33301791 (OP)

wow being an asian son sounds wonderful

Many times my mother put me in dangerous and neglectful situations.

My mom sent me home with my grandpa who was so drunk he drove on the wrong side of the road and got chased down by cops

>>33301791 (OP)
You're 21, just do what you want you fucking loser

>>33306794
...is what I thought I'd have no issue at all doing, yet here I am today.

Be grateful that your parents are even paying for your college.
And you can still have that social life, just join clubs or some shit.

>>33306716
they're LGBTQ phobic and voted for Trump

>>33306684
ok but you're an adult. go start your own bank account and get your own job and put your own money in there. reduce contact with your parents if/when your boundaries you need to establish independence are crossed.

My mom's found a great way of torturing me

Cooking dishes with mushrooms in them, like all the time

I FUCKING HATE MUSHROOMS

istfg if I were the dictator of america I'd fucking ban mushrooms everywhere and have everyone engaged in eating or trading them executed by scaphism

>>33301791 (OP)
I hope both you and your chink parents die lol

>>33307610
Me too.

Dinner time again. They kept lambasting me for not being grateful, and guilt-tripped me over not doing more for the family like washing dishes, cleaning the bathtub, or driving my younger siblings to the YMCA.

They told me we were poor and my dad literally had only 5,000 dollars in their checking account, and if I didn't stfu and flip burgers as a CS major... which is QUITE ODD, considering they didn't seem so poor until getting mad about the fact it was in an attic. They even hinted at refusing to let me live off-campus should anything new come up anytime this summer to next year if I didn't find a job, even if it wasn't an attic room lol.

Once again, they were threatening to withhold my university funding and force me to take out student loans. They kept calling me ungrateful and insensitive. I'm in my room now on my laptop, and they even did the thing where they squatted outside my room and kept knocking/prying at the doorknob until threatening to manually remove my doorknob / door hinges with a screwdriver.

I'm fucking sick of it, and I wish I were born with normal parents for my state who knew how normal white people culture worked and weren't fucking LGBTQ/Islamo/effeminacy-in-men/everythingphobic. Authentic Chinese goyslop and 5,000 years of cultural heritage would honestly be a sacrifice I'd be willing to put up with.

>>33307804
>LGBTQ/Islamo/effeminacy-in-men/everythingphobic.
they are based for this but they are ironically nurturing dependence in you instead of letting you be a big strong independent man. They sound a little hysterical ngl and to be honest you may have inherited some of it. Best of luck to you anon, don't let it get to your head and drive you crazy like your parents. Take control of what you can, be resolute in your actions and get your own place after the year

>>33308137
Yeah I'm a bit truscummy myself (which could explain my issues fitting into the official LGBT orgs at uni)

And twinkdeath does suck absolute ass

Am i actually poor anons

>>33309206
No your situation fucking reeks of privilege lol, grow up

>>33301791 (OP)
Hey op my parents are basically the brown version of yours and I more or less had the exact same struggle in school, the only difference is that I would do a bunch of drugs and cause my parents to basically give me 0 freedom, same with you.
First steps:
1. Stop being financially dependent. If you are as smart as you say you are (which you are not) then you would have realized that the only control your parents have over you just revolves around money. Get a part time job or something and autistically save up to afford the shit you want like rent. Yes you will have less free time but considering most of what you do is shove a dildo up your ass that's probably a good thing
2. Grind extremely hard for a good job. Stop going on this shithole site and just work and grind leetcode. You can shitpost once you work at fang
What the mayos here will never understand is that asians are retarded and only understand how to essentially bully their kids, as this is what happened to them. The only way to escape is to completely become free of their yoke and trust me once you achieve the following their behavior will change since they have no power over you
Also stop worrying about getting laid, you are literally a poorfag living with his parents lmao. Sex can't solve your dogshit life, and any other cope of muh social life by these retards will also set you up for failure, since you go to some shit state school and not an ivy networking with fellow faggot zoomers is generally worthless

>>33302342
>>33302540
NTA but its insane how you fuckers are gaslighting dude and acting like there's no merit to what he's saying.

>>33303864
Nigga do you want him to explain his fetishes to you in detail or something? Freaky ass

>>33303480
How does one overcome said fetishes? Is it just having sex with normal women and cutting back on internet usage? If I've been masturbating to porn multiple times a day for over a decade and viewing porn for even longer (since before puberty) is it over for me?

>>33304983
>Just get a factory job bro!

>>33311115
dk if I've ever mentioned this, but I'm honestly averse to porn, and don't really watch it, like when ph got banned idgaf

like i'm repulsed by vids of two people (of any gender) just fucking

doing the actual thing is another story... no firsthand xp tho, as established (have come close but chickened out)

that said, i could grow up in an amish household and still have the same kinks (which DON'T involve dildos up asses, btw, if y'all are so fucking curious). like i said, i when i was growing up, i had to earn 15 minutes of ipad / laptop usage at a time by playing piano, doing chinese hw, folding clothes, etc.

>>33311134
trump 2025

like idk the real numbers, but at least he gloats about it loudly

>>33310749
think it involves more than just money idk. like if i get on their bad side what if they stop paying tuition?

also i'm bonafide anti-drugs, like for reasons beyond "mom will punish me" (well, it's "the local authorities will punish me", tbf). i've yet to try anything stronger than weed.

maybe i should OD on benadryl and see how many shadows i see before i fucking die lmao

or i could make it more painful but quicker by jumping off a bridge and causing a traffic jam. i know most bridges have those gay railing thingies for this exact reason, but i'll lug a ladder over if push comes to shove.

I was going to offer you advice OP, but i read a few of your posts and you sicken me. I'll tell you this though. All the best memories I've ever had were a result of me not listening to my mom when she forbade me. Every single precious beautiful memory was because I defied the order of an overly controlling parent. Anyways, gl faggot.

>>33301800
> You will literally die.
So what?
Everybody dies, its not big deal, especially nowadays.

>>33304642
>>33303115
>>33301844
There is special place in hell for bootlicking faggots like you.

>>33311887
Yeah lmao that's what I tried to tell my FOLKS

But they're fucking risk averse Asians who are allergic to fun. They went to school in China, lived 7 people in 1 room with 0 privacy, and are unfamiliar with the concepts of frats or dating.

For more insight into the emotional aspect, here are some exact quotes from my parents:

>"I've never met someone this stupid before..."
>"The whole family treats me like shit! I'm the only person who makes money in the family. When I drop dead you'll have nothing... I get off work, do more work, and still have to clean up your shit!" (dad, the breadwinner of the family)
>"I've never met such a stupid idiot before!"
>"What the hell were you thinking? Those dudes clearly don't like you and are screwing you over!"
>"Remember, you don't have any income! You're not making any money in the summer! I don't know how much money you're going to have!"
>"Who told you you should buy the thing [space heater]? Those cost like $200! Can you afford it?"
>"Anon! I'm so disappointed with you!"
>"...he said he wants to buy a heater himself. He feels so proud of it."
>"[My bro] agrees. He shouldn't have chosen this place."
>"Hey anon, I know I talked to the lawyer and all, but I'm still concerned for your well being, and I still have serious reservations against this."
>"It's illegal. I am not paying 700 something for an illegal 'room'."
>"OK you can do this [buy a space heater] yourself. But DON'T ASK RENT FROM ME ANYMORE. YOU ARE MATURE!! YOU ARE GROWNUP!!!! DON'T TALK TO THEM CAN YOU??!!! YOU ARE A GROWN UP YOU SHOULD PAY YOUR OWN RENT!!!"
>"You are stupid. You made a mistake! How could you believe the house has 7 singles?"
>"I hope you learned your lesson!"
>"Fine! Go kys! It's your choice."
>"Go to hell!"
>"You are an ungrateful BITCH!"

>>33311657
Knowing mom, if I do kms, she won't be ashamed to tell all her WeChat friends + religious relatives I went to hell, and use me as an example.

>>33306554
The only sensible person in this thread. Your parents are using their money to stifle your independence and to verbally abuse you, which isn't normal. My parents did the same thing with all of my siblings, they would talk about how hard it was to grow up in their home country and live as immigrants in the US but would micromanage all our lives and constantly abuse us physically and verbally, as well as doubt any decisions or choices we made because their FOB selves though they knew best. The whole SPED thing they did with you is insane. You can't expect empathy from people who didn't grow up in this situation or can't recognize that they use their money to intentionally control and keep you in this power dynamic. With all this being said, it's not the end of the world to live at home and you can just meet up with your friends on campus. Also if you can, just open up a new bank account without them. I did this at 22 and slowly transferred my past and then-future earnings to that.
I bet if you still end up living with them for whatever reason (job market or otherwise), they will flip a switch at 24-25 and go from treating you like a special needs 5 year old to a degenerate adult who they can't suddenly understand why they aren't independent after a lifetime of destroying their independence and self esteem.
>why don't you have a girlfriend? what's wrong with you? what do you mean we didn't let you date or bring people to our house, we never said that!
>what the hell were you thinking, why didn't you live on campus and make better connections? what do you mean we forced you to live at home? we never said that!
>my coworkers son makes 200k a year at [top company in your field], why can't you do that? what, we didnt let you live on campus or get a student job? all you needed was tuition money that we paid, when I came to the US I lived in a 1 bedroom apartment with 8 people! I didn't need a laptop or pen or paper, you're useless! you should just kill yourself!

>>33311928
Anon, it has been reiterated throughout the thread, but the most important thing in life is financial freedom. You will not be able to do anything but bitch and cry and seethe at your parents if you still live on their dime. The only way for you to seriously say fuck you to your parents, in a way that actually matters, is by having a job - your OWN money. That is the ONLY way. Everything else is cope.

It is going to take time. You may not be free for the next couple years. But if you want to be free at all in the future - preferably a stable, productive freedom - it starts by putting your head down, grinding in school, and grinding in job/internship apps. You are probably going to have to send out hundreds, if not thousands, before you find anything, as many nowadays do. But you will have to do it regardless.

You will have to do it, or shut up and accept being your parents bitch forever.

Godspeed anon.

More context

>me: mom it's just an attic
>mom: it clearly states in the lease "no living in the attic" and "no partying"
>me: no srsly the LL dgaf it's just cya for legal reasons
>mom: what if there's a fire
>me: it has smoke detectors, a hydrant, and 2 windows
>mom: ok but what if you forget to turn off the space heater when you go out? then YOU could get sued, arrested, or KILLED! we're broke as it is, and too poor to afford another mortgage!
>me: ok, the chinese place was also "illegal". throwing out my kitchenware while i'm at work was also "illegal". why tf weren't u griping this much over THAT?
>mom: bc unlike THIS slumlord, the CHINESE slumlord's not renting out illegal rooms!
>me: renting a single-family house in the burbs to multiple people is also "illegal" u realize that? so god forbid, if there were a fire THERE...
>mom: well he's properly insured.
>me: how tf do you KNOW he is?
>mom: I'M CHINESE, I KNOW FOR A FACT HE IS
>me: well the way you've handled this is incredibly bitchy
>mom: you're so fucking ungrateful son, please stop bringing this up

>>33311988
>SPED thing
When I pressed them on that they portrayed themselves as the ones who tried to SAVE me from bonafide retard ABA classes, and advocate for me remaining in district (unsuccessfully).

They used to slap my ass too. Sometimes with rulers. If someday they discover my current kinks they fucking asked for it.

FYI it sort of IS the end of the world? I'm a rising senior this is my last year and shit. I live in a fucking unwalkable US suburb, and you know how my parents are. Last fall they gave me a hard time for going to a cafe w/ my buddies past 12 pm. A fucking CAFE, no booze or drugs.

I can't even follow the militarymaxxing approach based Twitter chuds rep since I'm too autistic, like enough to get me extra time on finals, and there's NO way they won't see it on my record.

(That, or my mom's an innocent well-meaning woman, and I'M the dipshit. Maybe I've hung out with too many white folks.)

>>33301791 (OP)
>cs major
>not a wagie yet
Whose gonna tell him?

>>33312571
ex-fucking-zacktly

you might've seen me on /utwg/ a few times

It's a pathetic world out there

>>33312571
WHOSE = belonging to whom
WHO'S = who is

My mom has this pathological fear of highways

Started with sitting in the passenger seat, but is now extending to driving too, so she's like going 45 mph on the interstate

And now she's playing this fucking gay Chinese pop music in the car to "calm her nerves" and it makes me wanna fucking kms

I called her out for how much of a drama queen she was being and she asked me why I wasn't being nice and making myself better

Well why should I no one's fucking nice in this world

Edit: now you see why I'm so eager to move out

God damn zoomers are bitch made