When I was little, all my friends were boys because the other girls made fun of my clothes (hand-me-downs from my brother). I got mad when people said anything about me being a girl, and I'd tell people I was a boy if they didn't know me (nobody believed it since my mom wouldn't let me get a short haircut).

My family tried to keep me from learning about trans stuff, and they succeeded until late middle school where I started thinking it was the coolest stuff ever. I thought about how fun it would be to get testosterone and finally start being the guy I always wanted to be.

Now I'm in my 2nd year at college and I told everyone. I've explored personality plurality a little, since I don't feel exclusively masculine, and I feel like I have two minds about most things. Which is where stuff gets a little muddy.

I told my brother I'm a bi-gender plural transmasc with he/him primary they/them secondary and she/her tertiary pronouns. My brother called our parents and they're trying to make me go to a doctor and they want me to talk to our preacher too.

I feel kind of humiliated. I just want to live my life without these people making a huge weird spectacle out of it. How can I fly under the radar and live normally as transmasc people?

>>33321273 (OP)
They want to save you from pain. Trans people have a high rate of suicide. Perhaps that's because it all started with not being satisfied with one's body? Perhaps it does not stop after transitioning? Pleas look up the risks of transitioning before doing anything.

>>33321273 (OP)
Do you like cocks or cunts? You're the one making a huge weird spectacle out of it by not accepting your gender, which is female. You are a woman. Everyone can feel two ways about a single thing, that does not make you special. Saying you're exploring personality plurality sounds like codespeak for "I found schizo enablers and I'm shilly-shallying over the slightest shit" You will not find yourself trying to force yourself to be things you are not. Being a masculine woman does not entitle you to usurp the title of penis-haver. You are yourself, in your own body, that you should accept and love. Having short hair and getting your bff to call you Jimbo will not make you a man. I've been in a relationship with a girl who thought she was a boy and she came back from the nonsense a bit later on. Your family might be misguided and could be hurtful but they love you and wish for you to be as a sane, balanced person who is comfortable in her situation. Right now you sound mentally unstable. Just be yourself, don't try to put yourself in a little box or several little schizo boxes. Go look at a mirror and say "that looks like a cool human". No need for silly buzzwords like transmasc.

>>33321273 (OP)
I won't read Frankenstein threads. "Sex reassignment" is still barely beyond Mary Shelley's day. In this era you can either be what you were born as or a monster on a slippery slope to hell.

>>33321273 (OP)
Hi I'm really sorry you have to go through all of this, even after what's supposed to be adulthood

I'm the Asian anon from that one thread where my mom forced me to break my lease and commute. My immediate recommendation is for you to get some sort of job - any, really - so that you can have your own income. That way it'd be easier for you to tell them "no" when needed. But I understand the economy's ass in every sector, which I'm currently dealing with the fallout of.

In theory? They must heed your "no" no matter what they think. But in practice? Sadly they don't have any obligation to keep financially supporting you either, and can use your dependence on them as a sort of trap, inducing arrested development and whatnot. My mom can inspect my banking records, mess around my room without my prior authorization, and even control the way I dress and style my hair. I'm also LGBT so can definitely understand your struggle.

I agree it def sucks to have to be like this past adulthood, and I agree our current issues with this are def causing one of our biggest blackpills ever.

>>33321273 (OP)
is this bait? your brother had a normal reaction
you're a masculine woman. there's no two ways about it

you only turned out like this because you wore boy clothes and had male friends as a child. if you didn't, then none of this would've happened. Think about it.

you're a tomboy who doesn't like femininity, and that's okay

>>33321477
you're a faggot and im glad you werent able to stay in that frathouse attic

>>33321387
perfect response, please read this OP.
Accept and embrace the fact that you're a masculine woman because 1) you aren't anything else, and 2) you aren't going to find true fulfillment pretending to be someone else

>>33321617
Wonder how things would change if the genders were reversed, or how common that situation would even be. Like boy who grew up wearing hand-me-down girl clothes and could only make friends with girls, and found out trans was a thing called trans in middle school.

I'm guessing much less common IMO.

>>33321273 (OP)
You should be humiliated. The humiliation is supposed to dissuade you from ruining your life. Sad that it didn't happen sooner, but at least it's happening. Here's hoping you don't reject the only people who care enough to try and stop you from destroying yourself.

>>33321273 (OP)
pretty much proof that you were conditioned by your environment to want to be male, so why don't you try embracing your femininity now that you're an adult and can make your own decisions? trust me, you're not trans lmao

>>33321273 (OP)
>I've explored personality plurality a little, since I don't feel exclusively masculine, and I feel like I have two minds about most things.
>I told my brother I'm a bi-gender plural transmasc with he/him primary they/them secondary and she/her tertiary pronouns
This is all probably bait but if this is real I can tell from those 2 lines that you are incredibly, genuinely astoundingly fembrained.

>I told my brother I'm a bi-gender plural transmasc with he/him primary they/them secondary and she/her tertiary pronouns
Anyone here fluent in troonerese? What does this mean?

>>33322500
She believes herself to be two genders, multiple personalities, FtM, and possibly nonbinary. I assume you can figure out the pronouns part.

>>33321273 (OP)
Anonette, I'm sorry you grew up like this, and I can relate (as I had quite a similar-ish experience, but the opposite direction, although we had different terms back then). However, the solution isn't to declare them as part of your identity. That only makes your issues worse. (It did for me.) And altering your body in the ways that people sometimes do is such an incredibly bad idea that it's astounding that it's even legal.

Instead, I'd suggest you disconnect from your online stuff and social groups that encourage this sort of thing. Find some hobbies. Live life. Let your identity detach itself from your gender.

You're more than likely autistic with self-image issues and from the sounds of it, some trauma. That doesn't make you a different gender. Take a look at the aspects of yourself that you've consciously or unconsciously rejected and pushed away.

I'm also going to unironically suggest that you try out wearing some clothing and styles that make you look good, which is likely going to be a lot more feminine than you're used to. Maybe ask a female friend to help. One thing that substantially helped me was finding a look for myself that I like a lot better than the one I used to have.

>>33321387
Can I ask why people get so mad about this? I'm not hurting anyone trying to feel comfortable in my own skin, but people get MAD when I tell them I'm FTM.
>>33321477
I have a sort of job. I work in my dad's flower shop. It's not great.
>>33322278
Well it's like when you're talking to yourself bc you're home alone and you're chatting about whatever and eventually it just starts to feel natural to say "we" and you sort idealize a secondary self you're conversing with whenever you're talking to yourself and then you kind of internalize the dialogue.
>>33322500
Bi-gender: Possessing elements of both genders.
Plurality: possessing multiple personalities of varying dominance and presence who may embody lesser aspects of the self not often expressed
Enby: non-binary, not strictly tied anywhere on the gender spectrum.
Transmasc: trans masculine, I'm AFAB but I identify in more masculine terms.
Pronouns are in order of priority, with he/him being highest priority.
>>33322634
I feel less like a weird pervert trying to be a man than I do trying girly stuff. I'd die of embarrassment before I could manage the nerve to talk to a friend about that.

>>33322738
>why people get so mad about this
I can't speak for them, but women are valued, particularly by men, and there's likely also an element of beauty and class to consider as well. Both are pretty fundamental to our society. We say to save women and children first on a sinking ship, and we consider killing a woman to be a worse crime than killing a man, because population is limited by women, not by men. Rejecting being female is in a sense killing a woman. And if you have any attractiveness at all, rejecting that you're female is desecrating something of beauty.

>I feel less like a weird pervert trying to be a man than I do trying girly stuff
I'm not saying lolita dresses, it could be as simple as trying a fitting ladies cut t-shirt instead of a baggier "unisex" cut, with a slightly tighter jean fit, if your normal style was t-shirt and jeans, for example. Or you could try a simple skirt or dress, there's so many more options for women's clothing than men's.

If you don't want to ask a friend and you don't want anyone to see you, another option is to go to a thrift store and buy something cheap for a few dollars or equivalent currency, and ideally they'll have a self checkout to use, and try it on at home. (Though it might be challenging with female sizes... I've heard those are a nightmare.)

>>33322738
Unless you're a hermaphrodite (0.005% of births) you're a woman. "Intersex" has a very blurry definition in biology and basically is not a valid concept outside of sociological considerations. Having internal dialogue is healthy, entertaining multiple personalities is a psychiatric disorder. You do NOT need to attach all these little tags to your person. In cultures where a third sex is accepted, the people in this category do not give it more thought than "cis-gendered" people. They're born hijra the same way a girl is born a girl. Anyone may think about masculinity and feminity and perceive lacking in one or the other while growing up, but becoming an adult is accepting yourself the way you are. You're different from the standard, that's great. Why would you need to call yourself all these complicated made-up words? If I went around telling my family that I feel more like I'm from Saturn than Earth, and started calling myself a gaseous-orbiting outer-ringer, they'd be right to take me to the looney bin. If on top of that I insisted that my neurobladder simply cannot sync with their hooman brainwaves they'd be really worried. Intersex people do exist, but they're very rare. Trans people are mentally scarred individuals who create a world of fiction as a coping mechanism for their perceived inadequacies, 100% of them would be better off if they were told that they are just fine the way they are and that they deserve to find love. Pronouns are meaningless. It's important to realize that you are less what you think you are than what others perceive you to be. I never felt "white" or "European" before traveling to places where I was a minority. I might think that this label is unimportant to me, but it is a hard reality for other people. Impossible to deny. The short guy doesn't feel short when he's alone. You cannot invent a way to become something that escapes the perception from others. Just bee urself :)

If you're ever confused OP just check between your legs to figure out your gender.

>>33322738
>people get MAD when I tell them I'm FTM.
Because it's like saying "I'm the queen of England" or "I'm a 12 foot tall purple gorilla"
You're pretending to be something you're not. Pretending is for children, you are an adult and you need to wake up and live in the real world.

>>33325453
Trvke. It’s crazy this even needs to be said on this website. What a fall from grace.