Thread 33322475

I’m a 23 year old virgin. Decent looking, overweight but currently slimming down and working out, 6’2. But my social life is pretty much non-existent and I’m pretty bad at conversing with people in general, but that goes double for women of course and I have no idea what to say at the appropriate times to garner interest.
How can I grow the mental balls to approach a woman and court her for sex? Where should I go to do this?
I’ve already been complimented and approached by women several times, so I think I’m doing something right, but they were also all ugly and unpleasant for the most except once or twice, so nothing came out of them.

>>33322475 (OP)
Have you read any self-help books on improving one's conversational skills?

>>33322475 (OP)
From the sound of it, you pretty much just need to go to a bar and you’ll find one or two sluts that will jump on you if you buy them some drinks

>>33322475 (OP)
i brute forced it with dating apps until i fucked someone decent looking enough and she was my gf for awhile

>>33322475 (OP)
NGL I think you should find yourself a friend group first
Try finding a hobby and connecting with other people that also have that hobby
Learn how to socialize and how to have conversations with them and then start branching out and going to social places like bars and clubs or going to other hobby communities
Finding a lady for you can be pushed back for later; you're pretty young so finding friends to be able to weather hard times with should definitely be top priority to you since friends can get you out of a pinch and vice versa

>>33322853
this

>>33322475 (OP)
Do you at least dress competently? Because fashion and not dressing like a slob goes a long way

>>33322475 (OP)
You're trying to run before you can walk. It is much, much harder to get a girlfriend than it is to get a friend. If you haven't mastered making friends with people, don't try to approach a woman until you have.

>>33322611
No, i tend to look down on those kinds of things, I don’t know, they always just struck me as full of shit, if you have any in mind that you recommend I suppose I’d be willing to look into it
>>33322853
Funny you mention that, because one of my near encounters was with a married woman at a bar (my coworkers dragged me along, I was pretty damn scared to go) who was decently attractive but got cold feet about the whole thing. Also I think she was drunk.
>>33322867
That’s another thing, I live in the middle of nowhere where stuff like Tinder is at best a niche novelty, I’ve looked around on there and pretty much the only ones using it are ugly foreign women probably looking for citizenship via marriage
>>33323056
I should say, it’s not that I absolutely can’t *have a conversation* at all, it’s more like after a few exchanges I don’t really have nothing else to say unless it’s something that I’m really knowledgeable or interested in, but that links back to me not being very interesting or having many (socially acceptable/interesting) hobbies. Anyway, building up friendships worth a damn takes quite a while, I agree it’s necessary at some point but I already have coworkers and stuff I can more or less count as friends, and I’m really more interested in just having a quick fuck, I don’t want a relationship right now since I’m still frankly trying to get myself sorted out
>>33324978
I think I do. I’m also losing weight so my clothes are fitting better.
>>33325294
Again, I do have friends, but I’m just so cut off from most people that I don’t have anything like social gatherings or parties to go to outside of stuff like work get togethers