>have gf
>treat her like shit
>gives me the greatest sex I ever had
>start realising she's gonna be the mother of my children one day
>spoil her and treat her like a baby
>don't get any sex whatsoever anymore
Why does this happen? Even asking for a nude pic she says no.

>>33338530 (OP)
Fuck knows. Some women want what they can't have, or want to "change him", because dating someone normal i.e. funny, friendly and reciprocating is somehow boring, even if the sex is really good.

My ex's friend stayed with an emotionally abusive farmer even though she straight up admitted the sex was bad. He didn't wash and his cock stank of shit. She literally smelled shit while giving him head. And yet, she stayed. No surprise she didn't really like her father and was all over the place emotionally.

It's just sad. Dating is fucked these days dude honestly

>>33338543
NTA but that's why I gave up.

>>33338530 (OP)
The answer is clear: treat her like shit again because she doesn't deserve to be treated well.

spoiling women isn't treating them well. they don't want pedestal oneitis bullshit.

>>33338530 (OP)
Of course a person you're treating abusively is going to comply more with your whims than one that feels safe enough to communicate or say no without fear of mistreatment, horrible incelbait

>>33338530 (OP)
>treat her like shit
To her this is you holding the reigns in the relationship. She feels like her future with you is going to be easy for her with you calling the shots and setting the standards for your family's life.

>spoil her and treat her like a baby
This probably disturbs her. It reads as you trying to "step down" and put her in charge of the family. When a man takes a passive "provider" role. It gives him the chance to check out and become a background character in the family dynamics. Women are sickened by this, they want someone who is an active father for their children to provides rules for everyone to follow. Matriarchal families are not healthy

>>33339053
oh fuck off. So men should do MORE for women....to get less from them? And this is the right thing? Pathetic womyn logic.

>>33339391
Not being mean or abusive to people is actually less work than doing so but I guess you can't parse basic addition and subtraction if you can't parse basic human decency

>>33338530 (OP)
Women are not meant to be treated gently.

>>33339399
Ok, rereading my post I sound like an angry incel, let me rephrase my statement.
Being "tougher" with a woman doesn't necessarily mean to behave like an asshole to her. I'm not saying you should be an actual asshole and do her harm, far from it. Don't treat her like a dumb kid.

>>33338530 (OP)
You have to give rewards for good behavior, don't give rewards for no reason. Yes, this is like having a dog.

>>33338530 (OP)
>>have gf
>>treat her like shit
I don't believe a word of this, since it implies self-awareness that a jerk/sociopath wouldn't have, so I won't read any further.

you can be dominant and masculine without treating her like shit. i often cook for my gf, make her breakfast and often buy her gifts/flowers. but i also fuck the shit out of her, stand my ground in an argument and am very secure/confident.

>>33338530 (OP)
Basically, your interest level went into the danger zone of 90-100%. Even a great man too in love becomes a little boy in a woman's eyes. I reckon you should just break up with her. You only really get one chance with women, I think. Read some Doc Love and try again. She won't start respecting you, and even if she would, it would be much easier to just find a new girlfriend.

Don't make her send nude pics out...that is just bad taste, respect her. She wants respect and you're treating her like a child and just throwing money at her and asking her to send you photos of her temple for you to just jack off to. Is it really serious with her? No woman should send any guy photos of herself, you never know when the relationship might end and it gets into his stupid head to share it with his bros or online or keep it forever.

>>33339053
Ding ding ding

>>33338530 (OP)
Her childhood model of love is that it's stress and turmoil, that imprints hard and most people never heal it

>>33339053
>>33339398
Actually all they said was treating them like shit which involves neglect or generally not caring much for or about her well being. People do it all the time. It's weird though anyone can justify women treating men worse for treating them well. What sane women respond to someone in these relationships treating them better by giving less or no sex? If you want men to treat women better you should get women to at least reciprocate the behavior instead of defending worse behavior. But you care about muh human decency though. I guess it's tough trying to defend masochists and other assorted headcases as a headcase yourself.

>>33339602
>Don't appreciate the women you're dating or married to and treat them like a bitch because it works
How about no? If any woman operates like that let them find the abuse elsewhere until they finally break or learn better. Otherwise you're in a redundant relationship and could get more out of a hook up with cheap prostitutes.