Feeling like playing along with women is just too much work and you need to work your ass off proving yourself non-stop so that they don't lose interest, there's so many mindgames you have to play along with in order to keep this going that it just doesn't feel like it's worth it. Why can't woman and a man be best friends while having sex and knowing everything about each other? Why is it all so distant and like a battlefield? There is no moment of comfort unless it's sex. It's all so fake.

>>33344962 (OP)

I know exactly what you mean man.

It’s so incredibly frustrating. That’s the problem with self help, the gym, self care, etc

It becomes toxic and hurtful if you do it for women.
Try your best to do it for yourself.
Eventually the results come and you stop worrying as much.

Keep working hard. But so YOU can live a good life.
Keep working out/start working out because YOU want to be healthy and look good.
Focus on a good and simple skincare routine so YOU can look good and decrease wrinkles as you age.

do these things for yourself. Try to change that mindset the very best you can. Women will naturally come after that

>>33344962 (OP)
>Feeling like playing along with women is just too much work
Okay. Think of it as evolution in action. The gene pool bids you farewell. Come back when you have a request for advice on this advice board.

>>33344984
>It becomes toxic and hurtful if you do it for women.
>Try your best to do it for yourself.
>Eventually the results come and you stop worrying as much.
that's exactly the point I'm at, just longing for a partner that will understand me. Nowhere to be found

>Keep working hard. But so YOU can live a good life.
I know what you mean, focus on myself, expand my career and not take interest in women while not fagging it out. But pure happiness comes to me by having a faithful lifelong partner. I just really long for some intimacy and pure comfort. I feel like I'd literally fall asleep on a girl's thighs immediately if she understood me.

>Focus on a good and simple skincare routine so YOU can look good and decrease wrinkles as you age.
>do these things for yourself. Try to change that mindset the very best you can. Women will naturally come after that
I'd like to focus on learning the best way to approach women and finding the right ones, which places to find them at etc.

>>33344994
bots are getting out of hand lately

After about 22 or 23 I stopped giving a shit about women. I just focus on myself now as a /fit/fag.

It might be mental illness, but I just visualise them as geriatrics who look like grilled cheese, which everybody will eventually look like if they live long enough. However, I shall not, since the day I cannot live by myself and by my own means, is the day I erase myself from this wretched and disgusting world.

Just focus on yourself. Explore hobbies, read books, and exercise - just stop obsessing over women.

It does not matter whether you are a king or a peasant - We will all eventually be nutrient juice for the Earth.

>>33345057
My primary problem is that you alter yourself so that it fits the woman's narrative, you cannot tell me you are fully yourself when you're fully devoted to someone. You need to blue pill yourself so it makes them happier since nearly all their decisions are made through emotions. Unless it's someone who is literally like you.

>>33344962 (OP)
online dating is a complete waste of time. only bother with IRL women

>>33344962 (OP)
The problem is mostly that you start playing the game without realizing it. If you're playing at all, you're losing.

>>33344962 (OP)

The thing is if she's really into you there aren't any mind games, you two just click.

>>33344962 (OP)

Think long and hard about the women that you're trying to attract. Is there anything about them that even aligns with your values or that you have anything in common with? What does she bring to the table aside from her looks/body? When you ask yourself this qualifier you realize that 90% of today's women don't make the cut and it's not that you're even picky, you're looking for someone who'll meet your minimum standards.

>>33344962 (OP)
Everyone feels like that, it's 2025. Welcome to hell.

>>33344994
Found HealthyGaymerGoodGoy