I turned 18 last week and I'm excited to be making some big changes I couldn't before I was a legal adult. I've been non-binary all through highschool, my friends always accepted and supported me, but my family hated it. My mom would say stuff like "I want my daughter to look like my daughter", and it felt less like I was a person and more like a doll for them.
My dad and my brother never treated it as anything but a passing interest and now that I'm scheduled to see a doctor about it they're both getting mad. I still live at home, and I want to keep the peace while I'm here without surrendering my sense of self in the process. How can I get them to deal with the change that's coming for until I move out? I'm not even doing hormones or anything I just wanted a breast reduction/removal so I wouldn't have to wear a binder but they act like Im dying

"Non binary" is a fake thing for impressionable idiots like teenage girls. How you dress and act are just personality, "gender" is a meme there is only biological sex.

My advice is to grow up and see reality for what it is and not what you wish it was

Your family is right to think you're retarded for falling for a meme trend and wanting to mutilate yourself.

>>33348945
Gender is how I want to present myself and be seen by society. I don't expect people to ignore the obvious so I'm trying to like surgically make myself look like neither girl or boy to fit the enby aesthetic. It's as real as anything in society is.
>>33348960
Why do I need to have breasts? I don't want them. What's wrong with getting rid of something you don't want?

>>33348932 (OP)
Enby is fake and gay but being enby also doesn't preclude keeping your tits
You've just drank the idpol kool-aid and in 10 years you'll think it was stupid.
If you want real advice though there's a whole board for queens to discuss this shit
>>>/lgbt/

>>33348979
You are a severely mentally ill woman. Once you mutilate yourself and realize it's permanent and you can't undo it, you're likely to want to kys

>>33348979
>What's wrong with wanting to get my face chopped off? I identify as a person without a face, it's just who I am mom, stop oppressing me!

>>33348979
It's not "real". You are either a girl or boy based on your sex. Dressing in an ambiguous aesthetic to fuck with people's head a bit is fine but don't pretend it's something else. Gender is mystic nonsense along the lines of souls.
For your second reply, you should not go under surgery unnecessarily simply as a maxim. That this would be normalized is totally fucked, learn to accept yourself for what you are, having breasts is normal and should not be undesirable enough that you'd want them excised.

>>33348980
Ty I'll check that board out
>>33348982
I already know it's permanent but I want that to be permanent. Otherwise I would just keep wearing a binder.
>>33348990
Having breasts is normal for women but I want to be androgynous.

>>33349020
People are gonna know you were born a woman anyway so it's pointless to mutilate yourself for that.

>>33349037
What if I get far enough along that they can't tell though? I'm not there yet but maybe if I keep putting effort into it?

>>33348932 (OP)
Modern sociology finds encouragement of mental disorders and surgical intervention for psychological issues hilarious. Your parents won't, but fuck em, right? No way a woman would ever regret lopping her tits off lmao. Have a good time

>>33349020
>I want that to be permanent. Otherwise I would just keep wearing a binder.
There are two maxims to live your life by. First, do what is right. Then do what makes you freer. What if you want to change your fashion to be more feminine sometime in the future? What if you want to change between androgynous and feminine fashion every day sometime in the future? What if you have children? Now you can't breastfeed!
>I want to be androgynous
So do I. I am male. I will always be male. That doesn't make you're "non-binary", whatever that means. You're a woman. All that means is that you have the capability to procreate with a man and not with a woman. That's what sex is.
Have whatever fashion you like, but don't start chopping bits off of your body when it may hinder you from doing what you want in the future. You said it yourself, you can just wear a binder. Do that, and lift weights. 8-12 reps is best for hypertrophy, which is what you probably want. Eat more red meat.

>>33348932 (OP)
Your Doctor is straight up evil lmao. Lemme guess, Canadian?

>>33348932 (OP)
Nigga, as the anons have mentioned above, you are fucking retarded. Why do you people have such a desire to mutilate yourselves?

>>33348932 (OP)
Maybe you should go to reddit to ask for advice on the best ways to mutilate your body.
>>33348945
/thread

>>33348932 (OP)
Moron

Watch
>>>/wsg/5921112

>>33348932 (OP)
You will absolutly regret this idiocy when you start wanting a baby.

In 10-15 years there will be so many lawsuits against parents that enabled this shit on thier kids. You won't even have anyone to blame.

>>33348932 (OP)
Look I'm normally chill and accepting of trans people
But so many afabs use nonbinary identity as a crutch in early adulthood for feeling fucking weird about being a woman in a society that's really fucking weird about women
Wanting top surgery with no hormones is pretty sus
Just keep binding for now
If in a couple years you still feel adamant about it then do it
The enby desist rate is way higher, it's just not tracked because technically most of you never even transition, you just style differently then go back to normality in a year or two

>>33348979
You hate yourself.

Getting that volentary mutilation won't fix that.
You'll just hate yourself AND be mutilated.

>>33348932 (OP)
Live in their home, play by their rules. That's just basic courtesy. Put off finding your true self until you're on your own.

>>33348932 (OP)
You were groomed by an Israeli/gates foundation psyop. The trans movement is more than feelings and gender. It's systematic strategy implemented in order to stagger population density, by mutilating susceptible individuals in the name of personal freedom. The procedures are unsafe and the hormone therapy will alter your consciousness during you in more akin to an infected mouse with toxoplasmosis the very neuro-transmitters that you rely on will be highjacked and conditioned to repeat the cycle of every trans victim. If you're lucky genital vivisection is the worst you see.
>>33348979
Just started to read, it's too late better off necking yourself, your body is a temple, it shouldn't be defiled in the name of "gender" look missy gender is what you are born with and "sexual orientation" is how you feel as well as how you present yourself.
Bottom line (you) shouldn't let others influence how you feel and showing consideration for others goes a long way.
>"I want my daughter to look like my daughter"
When or if you ever have children that sentence will rattle in your brain. I'll give you a comeback but I'll ask a favor at the end of my post..
(Comeback) "Oh yeah look in the mirror cuz you're definitely my mom"... Now about that favor..
>If you chop your tits off can I have them... So I can get them grafted on. I'll put tape on the nipples even though I'm planning on keeping my nips after the procedure.

>>33348932 (OP)
don't do it you'll regret it you'll just end up hating yourself even more

>>33349177
That will never happen. You're delusional. Just fucking wait and see how you feel in a couple years you fucking idiot.

>>33348932 (OP) original pajeet
OP that bullshit of being non-binary is just woke propaganda and you are going to chop your tits just because you haven't mature jet, once you are a complete adult no one is going to care about your pronouns, guess why because to be an independent adult we need to make a living. This bullshit is just rage bait for you to have the approval or controversiay from someone else, once you have the intelligence for making a living or at least have a protect more than chopping yourself, you will realize that you were brain washed.

>>33348932 (OP)
>I want to keep the peace while I'm here without surrendering my sense of self in the process.

You are already doing that OP. You do that by relying on a label like 'non-binary' to fill in for your lack of self identity. That's what this is about. You struggle to know who you actually are, internally. Empty void inside right? You think this non-binary charade will fill the void.

It won't. It actually ensures you never find anything to fill it. You cut off your own pathway towards true self identity by adopting bullshit.

>>33348932 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JkPHdlJc20
How much do you personally relate to this?