Is it over if you're short? I'm talking 5'9" or under

>>33352950 (OP)
>Is it over if you're short?
No. /thread

>>33352950 (OP)
Can you not just wear boosts? Or shoes with a bigger sole?

>>33352974
I'm 5'5". No amount of lifts are going to get me anywhere near 5'10". I look comically small compared to most men in college

>>33352950 (OP)
yup, especially at a time when 6'1 or 6'2 is considered the bare minimum

>>33352979
>5'5"
yeah sorry it's over.

>>33352979
phermone compatibility matters more irl

>>33352950 (OP)
I won't read oh no not this 5'9" idiot AGAIN that clearly needs to be put in front of a munchkin firing squad (I'll let you work out which side of the guns the munchkins are on).

>>33352950 (OP)
>caring what w*men think
so what you're saying is that i can ruin a tall friends life by bringing them with me and having a parasitic w*man latch on to them, draining their life force and ruining their lives while i remain alone as a short guy with all my money and free time and go on 4 weeks trips to Norway? im a bit of a jonkler myself so i just might do that!

>>33354766
Holy copium HAHAHAHA!!!

>>33352950 (OP)
Should be 5’7 and under

I know two guys that are 5'3'' and both are married. They're not handsome either.

>>33352950 (OP)
5'5"

>>33352950 (OP)
this is actually good advice though. being friends with people who are more successful than you is a recipe for lower self-esteem

>>33353172
nigga is we ants?

>>33352950 (OP)
i mean last night i yoinked my tall friends girl so bad the mf went home

>>33356429
5'7''*

>>33352950 (OP)
I'm 6'4" and whenever I go out with my friend who's 6' all the women direct their attention to me. It's ironic too because I'm not interested (I'm married) and even after I make that clear to them, they still won't give my friend the time of day. It's like their monkey brains go "nope, I saw a taller guy, so that one's trash." It doesn't even matter that he's 6' tall. They saw someone taller so he's completely out of the running. I'm sure the same thing would happen to me if I went out with a friend who was 6'7" or something.

>>33352950 (OP)
yeah it's over

>>33356489
yes. it's actually delusional to think you'll be able to improove into becoming a big fish, so just surround yourself with people even less talented and stupider than you are, so they'll think you're amazing. never try to improve or learn things, just change your surroundings until, from how you see things, you're superior to everyone. settle for good enough then soak in praise from people for whom your "good enough" is their "exceptional"

>>33356489
It's also a way to make connections and move up in the world, retard.

>>33356429
a handsome specimen who still got brootally cucked. NO amount of status or face surgeries can fix the lack of height, except maybe if one is ready to undergo dangerous limb lengthening procedure

>>33357014
>hang out with losers so you can feel like you're better than they are
yeah that's not some psycho shit at all anon

>>33352950 (OP)
If your tall friend is actually your friend, he will divert their attention back to you by gassing you up to the hoes he attracts. That's what I (6'3") do for my manlet friends. So it really just sounds like you have shit friends.

>>33352950 (OP)
i like guys who are in the 1,70 spectrum. being 1,60 something is pushing it tho

>>33357061
>if you don't want to be the tag along for people who couldn't care less about you then you're le psycho
either you're the loser/follower friend or you're the 'leader'. guess who women are attracted to?

>>33356489
only if you already have low self stem

>>33352950 (OP)
men obsessing over haight is the female equivalent of woman obsessing over weight. if you are good looking enough it dosent matter.

you think if a woman sees a short cute twink like link she won’t fuck him dry? lol

>>33357127
What kind of a retarded lost is this? This single-handedly brought down the avg jiqof this thread by a half. Comparing a highly stable, genetic trait like height with a highly malleable trait like weight is retarded af. Women exclusively have a height filter because it's one of those things that can't be faked by hitting the gym. And yes, today's men are super fucking desperate that they'll even do limb lengthening surgery even after developing a 6 pack, norwood 1 hair after Turkish hair transplant, etc., because the modern numale is a cowardly backstabber who'd rather try out competing other men in the domain of looks rather than uniting with his fellow men to destroy this retarded mess we're all in, a mess that's only benefiting women and genetically blessed chads

>>33356489
I just never leave my house so I never have to interact with the world. It still doesn't stop seeing superior people online. Even fictional characters I get envious of. I just can't help feeling inferior to everyone and unworthy of everything

>>33357163
i read it with contrapoints voice

>>33357193
this but unironically. i don't feel worthy of life. 'friends' excluded me and women scoffed at me. all my peers live normal lives while i'm just trying to stall my inevitable suicide with maladaptive daydreaming. i was a shy, self-conscious loser even as far back as preschool. in the first grade i asked my mom "why doesn't anybody like me?", and i still don't have an answer. all i know is that i'm unwanted with no valuable contributions to society. no talents. no passions. only smart enough to know i'm stupid and engage with topics on the most surface level. can't understand myself, let alone other people, or emotions. wasted everything.

yes despite all this somehow i ended up feeling like i was special, or had some hidden talent that could be uncovered with enough work. when in reality you can accurately extrapolate someone's life from their behaviors and abilities in preschool. it was never going to happen. my brain is incapable of actually understanding what i ask for but i do anyways. my idea of excellence is an unexcellent person's idea. it's all distorted in the haze of my mediocrity. all i can do is superficially shuffle symbols and signs around until i get the right combination heuristically instead of understanding anything

>>33357193
>>33357219
I think it's because we have a more objective view on life and ourselves
Most people are able to delude themselves into being some hot shit when in reality they're irrelevant scum
I can't do that I'm painfully aware of my shortcomings and it paralyzes me that there is nothing I can do about it

>>33357202
>t.trannycel

>5'11 to 6'4
Advantaged, nothing else needs to be said
>5'9-5'10
Your height neither advantages or disadvantages in romantic pursuit
>5'7-5'8
Disadvantages, but short women can tolerate this if your other specs are good
>5'6 to 5'5
Major disadvantage, can technically work out if other specs are high, and youre dating short latina/Asian women
>Smaller than 5'5
I hope you're a millionaire or famous.

>>33357127
based retard

>>33357050
>dangerous
source?

>>33352950 (OP)
No, I'm tall and feel invisible to most women

Maybe I'm just ugly or radiate friendly vibes

Confidence is key, honestly. On the rare occasion I have it I feel like the world is my oyster, but it's fleeting, at least for me

>>33360411
for budget surgeries outside US(mostly NATO countries)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0972978X24003180
So sad seeing that men would rather risk being cripples just so they can own other men & outcompete them, without ever realizing they're only making the feminazis more powerful who're only going to cuck them with a much taller man anyways, rather than uniting with the incel populace to put women at their place and not allowing them to choose the genetic fate of billions of men

>>33360940

>>33353172
How does one pheromonemaxx?

>>33356494
We are both species that are part of a superorganism too.

>>33357103
What country are you from? I'm 1/65 of a football field tall.

>>33364320
>Gemini: These include maintaining a healthy diet rich in zinc, magnesium, and calcium, managing stress, practicing good hygiene, and incorporating regular physical activity. Additionally, some research suggests that certain foods like celery, parsnips, and truffles can influence pheromone production.

is 5'10 short?

>>33364449
Thanks, G

>>33364458
Maybe in some parts of North Europe or some parts of the Balkans

>>33357777
insane quads of truth. Though i don't feel as disadvantaged as a 5´5, living in latin america

>>33357219
>>33357193

I kinda felt like this and to people who feel like this I'll just give a few tips that have helped me cope better:

> You owe it too yourself to max out your face and fashion card at least once

See what your lean and healthy face looks like and then notice if anything changes. I found in my cases people actually started to crave my attention, more friends, etc. All you have to do is eat 100% clean, do a few miles a week of running, a skin care routine, and drink lots of water. It's really not rocket science , its just hard due to addictions/cravings.

The world takes you somewhat more seriously if it looks like you take yourself seriously.

And this was with STILL acting like an autist socially / conversationally. It made me realize how much of my own hell was in my control , I was never going to be on top of the world but I could have been doing things the whole time that lessened the impact. It's kinda like staying in an unlocked prison cell.

>>33352950 (OP)
No.
Being tall is a huge boost when trying to pick up girls in nightclubs, I acknowledge that much. But I honestly haven't seen it be particularly noteworthy outside of that context.
I'm a little shorter than average in my country and it's never, ever been an issue for me.

If you're significantly shorter than average then it'll be tougher and it'll be harder and that sucks and it's not fair but you will still get bitches.

being tall, good looking etc. helps
but having a warm smile, some humor and being easy to talk to is way more important when trying to pick up women
t. knower

>>33352950 (OP)
>needing to use group pics for dating apps
>all your friends are over 6' and you're average height
This is going to go well I'm sure

>>33352950 (OP)

Let me chime in: I am 6'1 in a place where the average height is 5'7. I've dated, fucked and have been friends with entire groups of girls. The only reason I don't have a body count in the three digit range is a severe disgust of women (I looked into the abyss) and nuclear autism. I am currently dating a 5'0 former lesbian who literally gets off on the fact that I have 13 inches on her. All of the women in her family comment on how huge I am. Her friends (all 5'0-5'3) who are in long term relationships with similar height men giggle and comment on how huge I am while shitting on their boyfriends.

Truth bomb:
Short men are playing the game at hardcore difficulty. You can still beat the game by having above average stats (frame, BDE) or skillz (a keen understanding in both female bullshit and its countermeasures). I have personally seen short dudes pulling hotter women than I ever have, but these muhs own restaurants and give no shits and know when to be patient when women are women (I am not, I sperg out whenever they're retarded).

If you've ever seen Game of Thrones Season 8, where the girls make fun of John Snow for his height, it's like that. You're never going to have their full 100% respect. A part of them will always see you as a little man at best and a boy at worst.

>>33357127
this but unironically
height matters, weight matters, but not as much as incels say. It's a negative feature you gotta make up for below a certain point, but if you've got other good shit going on, pretty much like any other
>he's X, but-
you're gonna be fine.

>>33357777
This is closer to the truth, although I'd kick major disadvantage in at 5'5-5'4. average woman height is 5'3 and although both of these are really short, 5'3s basically the absolute last stop on giving women the useful cope
>look, yeah, he's short, but he's still taller than me.
at which point your dating pool either changes to midgets, dwarfchasers, or "you've got a lambo and a cancun beach house"

>Friend is 5'7' or 5'8"
He has had a lot of success with women, but he is confident. Not even that amazing looking, likely a 6 in most women's eyes is my guess, maybe a 7 to the occasional woman. The problem with you manlets is that you tend to be insecure about your height, so the real damage is the lack of confidence not the lack of height.
>Just be confident
I get it though that it is easy to say just be confident, I've got a small dick and have never really gotten over that. Regardless, easy or not, the lack of confidence is the real killer in either situation

>>33352979
Feels…

>>33353035
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>>33352950 (OP)
the guy i like is exactly 5'9" i believe. i've mentioned that before on 4chan and was told he's tall. so i guess 5'9" is chad/tall.

>>33368825
Is he Indian?
Do you like CurryThunder cock?

>>33368844
no he's a northern euro white lmao.

>>33357090
does it work though

>>33352950 (OP)
No, but it makes many options inaccessible. If you're a 5'8"ish white guy, you can still get 5'4"ish brown/asian girls pretty easily all else equal, but good luck staying in your own race

>>33356489
It's not about self esteem. I'm 5'7" with a 6'4" brother who looks just like me, only much taller (and bald). When we're together (or even apart but seen by the same people on the same day), height almost always gets mentioned. I had a coworker that left who I met again at another job several years later, literally the first thing she asked me was how my brother was doing. Women will almost always gravitate to the taller of two men unless they're within a few inches of each other.