I can't get a girlfriend and im a 23 year old male who goes to college. When I cold approach at places like the gym I can handle a conversation just fine but the girl acts so fucking timid and obviously wants me to fuck off so I never end up getting her number. Dating apps don't work. What do I do?

Help me niggers plz

>>33353518 (OP)
Get friends

>>33353518 (OP)
Stop cold approaching. The big hint is in the word ‘cold’. No one likes being cold. It’s stiff, it’s rigid, it’s a slog. Sometimes gives you chills, like being creeped out. Hence the name ‘cold approach’.

Warm approaching? That’s what you should do. That one works. People like warm approaching. What’s a warm approach? It’s where you don’t randomly appear into someone’s life like a random pokemon encounter. You stop acting like a sudden occurrence that injects himself into people’s personal time or space.

Instead you slowly build a sense of familiarity, building rapport from a formal distance. Starting small, a passing nod and a ‘good morning/evening’. But not stopping what they are doing, or what you are doing. Just a formal greeting and move on. In a shared space or activity, so the social context makes sense.

You do that for a while. Slowly advancing the ‘Hey’ or ‘Good morning’ to something more. “Hey hows things?” then “Nice day today aint it?” and blah blah blah. That’s a warm approach. It takes time and slowly heats up.

Cold approaching sucks.

>>33353548
This

Cold approaching people is unnatural

>>33353548
I didn't know about this "warm approaching" term. I do something quite similar to that already but thought it was cold approach. I guess thevproblem is I am not attractive enough to women

>>33353534
I have a good amount of male friends actually

>>33353855
Guarnteed you aren't as ugly as you think you are and there's at least one woman who'll find you attractive (after getting to know you first).

>>33353952
Why do girls not wanna talk with me then and why am I always ghosted?

>>33353518 (OP)
>Dating apps don't work.
Pay for Hinge+ and spam likes for an hour or two, no way you won't at least get one match.
t. ugly 23 year old with a body count of 6

>>33353518 (OP)
those relationship gurus have talks. look at the stage you see a gigachad. look at the audience. all balding. watch the videos where they show examplles. have you stopped a rando on the street? all the women in their videos are all extremely enthusiastic.
that's all you need to know that it's a grift.

>>33354301
What did you talk about in your last conversation before being ghosted?

>>33353518 (OP)
>Posts pictures of Jesus then complains that his lustful desires aren't fulfilled
Matthew 5:28
>But I say unto you, that whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

You deserve your situation, you don't believe in anything Jesus was teaching, and as long as you lament not being able to engage in degeneracy, you will never find the Lord in your heart.

>>33355858
I don't think he is a degenerate or lustful though. I'm a follower of Christ too, and I think you're jumping the gun. Besides, there's nothing degenerate about wanting a woman sexually so long as you firmly intend to marry her first. Sex drive was God's design. God made no mistakes there, it's in us men for a good reason.

Even the Bible (if you read it) promotes sexual appetite as a good thing.

Proverbs 5:19

>[Let her be as] the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love.

>>33356083
1/2
Proverb 5 you mentioned contrasts the love of your wife with fornication/adultery, not the point.
>I'm a follower of Christ too
You are a heretic, a lukewarm drink that will get spit out, you mask yourself behind the portrait of Christendom to hde your degeneracy, did Christ not say “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me." In Matthew 24?
Did we not get warned about the desires of the flesh multiple times by Paul?
Galatians 5:16f
>So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever[a] you want.

Your purpose as a husband is to love your wife and make her better, not use her for sexual pleasure as an object. The whole theme of Ephesians 5 condems this sexual behaviour, opening statements in 3-5 describe those who only seek lustfulness in marriage, while 25-31 advises you to make her holy, just as Christ made the church, you ought to present her to yourself as without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.

Lastly, being a slave to lustful desires is a sin, regardless of whether you wish to express it on your wife.
>They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity—for “people are slaves to whatever has mastered them.”
Romans 2 also touches on this.
So no, do not dare call yourself a Christian, you have abandoned nothing for Christ, instead of embracing humility, you go on dating apps in hopes of getting a quick score to satiate your lust, even engaging in thoughs of doing so are an offense to Christ wanted...

>>33354441
>>Hey, how's it going (girls name) hopeyou have been well.

Let me guess, you will say this was a pussy drier or something along those lines

>>33355858
>>You have to be perfect sinless man to want to follow Jesus and his teachings
Whatever, retard.

>>33356083
2/2
Even though it's nothing wrong with ambition, it cannot consume you, many men here will tell you that. If your faith in Christ was certain, you would know that at the end it doesn't matter, as one does not live for the world. I am a 21yo Skateboarder and half-naked girls smile at me all the time at the skatepark, do i engage?
No, becuase no lust can overcome what Christ has built in me, and they hate me for it, they always give me angry looks afterwards...
Should i be mad? Sad? Depraved?
No becuase i do not live for the world, and i can always be assured that the world hated Christ first.
Any even though i'm a khhv at 21, i can always rely on what was said at the sermon on the mount (Matthew 5), so if you take people rejecting you as an injustice, but you persevere in your ighteous cause as God intended, you can be assured that you do no evil despite this suffering...
Lastly, stop cursing and don't do personal attacks, Einheitsübersetzung is sitting half a meter behind me at at all times. Your denomination and faith is irrelevant if you do not do the will of the Father. So i genuinely hope that the Holy Spirit helps you in your way and you stop engaging in degeneracy and accept humility. Girls, material gain or even nourishment and security will never matter if your faith in Christ is a lifelong priority.

>>33356570
Jesus literally said that he has not come for the righteous but for the sinners, as healthy have no need of a physician...
But you cannot claim to be his follower if you do not do the will of the Father (Matthew 7)...
I never even implied it, so don't be toxic

>>33356549
>>33356580
Your spiritual pride will be your downfall.

>>33356586
It's not pride, more like an aftereffect. I've replaced many things like watching shows, videogames or porn with theology, and i do indeed do it to the point where it's ruining my studies. But i pray that it all comes to pass and that no hard is done...
You're still right in regard that it can drive a guy semi-insane...

>>33356597
It’s pride, anon. You just got done calling me a heretic, a lukewarm drink that will get spit out, and you presumed to know everything about my intentions without knowing me personally. Calling me a degenerate, assuming I only care for my wife for lust’s sake, you even tried to gatekeep Christ Himself.

>do not dare call yourself a Christian.

You even presumed I go on dating apps. I don’t. Know what I did last night with my woman, my wife? Prayed the Novena to petition St. Gerard Majella to pray for a safe and healthy delivery of our unborn.

Yet all because I pointed out that marital sex, as an act of love is good, you tried to chew me out as if you were God Himself.

That’s spiritual pride. And I won’t condemn you as someone evil, you probably mean well. But get a hold on that particular sin. It’s the deadliest one kf all, and it’s the king of all sins, Lucifer’s favorite one.

I tell you this as someone who battled with it too, especially when I first converted. It’s called ‘Zeal of the convert’.

It’s when you internalise a lot of shame from your past life of godlessness and you go on the attack against your fellow man, even your fellow brothers or sisters in Christ. Be careful with that is all I am saying.

you’re unattractive

>>33353518 (OP)
>the girl acts so fucking timid and obviously wants me to fuck off
that's how you think they view you, realistically it's how you view yourself. change this and everything else will come with time.

>>33356570
>>>Hey, how's it going (girls name) hopeyou have been well.
>Let me guess, you will say this was a pussy drier or something along those lines
I meant actual back and forth conversation, not the last message you sent that got you ghosted o algo.

>>33356824
Wow. Do you believe in harems? I want to be married to you as well.

>>33356917
That was the first and last message buddy.

>>33354301
Maybe because you approach them at places like the gym where they're trying to focus on doing something specific (exercise) and you're trying to start a relatiinship

>>33356824
And i misread your response, i thought you were OP (dumbass moment).
Perhaps you're right in that i was a bit overzelaous, but acknowledge my points to the very least. I am not gatekeeping Christ, i am just saying what a Christian is by definition, as i hope that every soul reaches out to Christ. But one cannot do atrocities and hide themselves behind Jesus, it just diminished the image of Christianity to everyne...
I was like this until one lutheran pastor beat it out of me, had he not intervened so harshly i never would've realised the error of my ways...
And it wasn't because i was theologically opposed, i was just that lukewarm degenerate who hid behind Christ as a moral safeguard.
>Yet all because I pointed out that marital sex, as an act of love is good, you tried to chew me out as if you were God Himself.
I didn't, i just implied what the scripture says about lust, and desiring womeng solely for the purpose of having sex with them is abhorent, i think we can both agree on this.
You gotta trust me, it isn't pride, i genuinely express what i live through, i don't want a debate and gloat over by outsmarting someone online, i just present things how i understand them for wellbeing, not becuase of insecurities, but becuase this is how i started aswell. God is not mocked, and his path is to be treated seriously without nuance, it's not that i hate my fellow people, i just hope that the same rhetoric influences them as it did me.
Sorry for confusion and i apologise for the harsh tone there, godspeed

>>33356824
Like i really cannot express how sorry i am for this confusion, i really thought that the OP responded here, forgive me please, i was just trying to express what Chriastians truly believe...

>>33357249
>>33357301
It’s alright brother, all is forgiven, no harm done. I relate a lot to what you wrote as well. I was that lukewarm degerenate too once upon a time, and many a time today truth be told. I still sin, I still falter, probably always will. That’s why I forgive you brotha, just as I hope for forgiveness for my blunders when I make ‘em. The spiritual war is a tough one, man. We’re up against an eternal enemy with two faces, six wings, highest of the Seraphim, former bearer of light, fallen and vengeful and more cunning than any human can calculate. That Seraphic worm has a way with targeting us, especially new converts or those trying to get close to God. You become his biggest target, cuz he don’t want you to follow Christ. Way he tries to mess us up is by making us misunderstand one another, and to see the enemy in each other. Trick as old as time.

I apologise for any misunderstanding on my part too bro. God bless and take care

>>33357000
you started the conversation with something someone would write in a letter in the 1800s to someone they know
it never even began and that wasn't even ghosting

>>33357000
>talking to women never works for me!
>never actually talks to women
Every time with you retards.
As another anon said, this isn't even a ghosting. Ghosting is when someone you've actually been talking to just blows you off. This is nothing.

>>33357678
>>33357730
>>Talk with a girl IRL, seems like it goes well, get her number
>>Shoot her a text just asking HOW SHE IS DOING never even replies
Make it make sense

>>33357741
No nigger, YOU make it make sense.
Why are you wasting time texting her asking her how she's doing? You should be asking her that while making small talk with her IN REAL LIFE, and then if you're going to text her do it to make plans AFTER you've already built up a basic rapport with her in meatspace first.
This is common knowledge and common sense.

>>33357741
women give their number to avoid confrontation

>>33357776
This is true. No clue why some of the other lads forget this about women. Women are passive, vulnerable, emotionally and physically. They can’t afford risking saying ‘no’ to someone who could brutalize them.

>>33353518 (OP)
Stop cold approaching, it doesn't work. Sure, if you ask a hundred girls out of the blue whether they'd want to go on a date, one or two may say, "yes," but most women are wary of strange men... and for good reason. Drop the idea of picking someone up at the gym - not gonna happen. If you're in college, chances are that you have several classes with women in them. Make some friends. You don't need to feign disinterest, just get to know the people around you and try to gauge whether they want to talk to you and enjoy your company. If a girl is interested in you, she'll let you know. Sure, there's plenty of girls that enjoy male attention, but you can weed them out quickly by simply asking them out for coffee or lunch. If they hem and haw or rattle off excuses about how "that day/afternoon/etc. won't work for me" it means they're not interested. (This is assuming you've already built rapport with them and aren't a complete stranger)

Also, why do you want a girlfriend? If you're pursuing a relationship to prove something to yourself or because you feel intense angst about being alone, you need to get a hold of your own emotions and expectations. That's how I felt when I got my first girlfriend. She was an okay-looking, hyper-sexual business major with a lot of red flags that I chose to look past because I enjoyed messing around with her too much to listen to my gut. Nothing catastrophic happened, but it was a waste of time and money and we broke things off because we were fundamentally incompatible with one another.

>>33356580
>Einheitsübersetzung is sitting half a meter behind me at at all times.
Nigger, burn that liberal giga-gay translation right now. If you want to use a Catholic Bible then order the one from sarto.de. Never use a modern and compromised translation.

>>33360144
Becuase an academic memeber of the clergy who's dedicated his life to studying theology and has earned himself a doctorate for it is liberal trash, what is your logic here?

>>33360329
These "theologians" are mostly pederasts and liberals that have nothing lost in the Catholic Church. Take a translation that is directly from the Vulgata, not a modern abomination. You put too much weight on titles instead of relying on your God-given intuition. I don't know if you are Catholic or not, but the translation recommended you is the best for Catholics in the German speaking world. A good comparative translation is also the Schlachter 2000, despite Protestant, is one of the most accurate and conservative translations. The German lingo sphere is cucked into oblivion, so trust a fellow German instead of sperging out with your pride. You, sincerely, have a problem with this. Maybe stopping doing gay sports like skateboarding will readjust your brain.

>>33360415
Du konzentriest dich nicht auf die Botschaft hinter der Bibel, sondern lobst deren Einband.
>Weh euch, Schriftgelehrte und Pharisäer, ihr Heuchler, die ihr den Zehnten gebt von Minze, Dill und Kümmel und lasst das Wichtigste im Gesetz beiseite, nämlich das Recht, die Barmherzigkeit und den Glauben! Doch dies sollte man tun und jenes nicht lassen.
Die Übersetzung ist das kleinste Aspekt des Glaubens, sollen wir die direkte übersetzung aus Schlacher 2000 in andere Sprachen mitbringen, obwohl in solchen Sprachen ein Kontext der Wörter/Bedeutungen fehlt?
Wegen 2 Gründen ist die Einheitsübersetzung besonderes gut;
1. Alte hebräische und einige griechische Wörter bleiben unübersetzt, der Kontext wird später angegeben.
2. Die schon-gennanten Übersetzer, die die Autorität da haben, da sie Experten auf diesem Gebiet sind, und die spirituelle Autorität, da sie es mit ganzem Herzen und ohne großere Inzentive (Hier denkt man sich großteils um Dominikanern oder Augustinern, die gar nichts außer die Gnade Gottes in ihrem Leben anstreben).
Deine Sorge hier ist nicht das Ökumenismus der Kirchen, da es unzählig viel Übersetzungen gibt, sondern dass du das Argument gewinnst, genau was uns in Matthäus 7 erwähnt würde...
Eine Übersetzung ist so gut wie die andere, solange als es keine häretische Lehren äußert, und niemand hat diese Übersetzung aufgrund von Häresie verurteilt auch nicht die Evangelikern.
Zuletzt möchte ich zwischen Liberalismus und Vernunft unterscheiden. Die Bibel nicht als Lehrbuch, sondern als Wort Gottes zu betrachten (unter beobachtung des originalen hebräischen/altgriechischen sprachlichen Kontexts) ist nicht gleich wie Liberalismus. Gleichzeitig Fundamentalist zu sein bedeutet nicht zwangsläufig recht zu haben, aber es ist ein Anzeichen dafür, dass man sich wie ein Ignoramus verhalten will, da man von den Winden der Doktrin hin und her geworfen wird...

>>33353518 (OP)
These questions are better answered by youtube videos on dating from professionals.

Also there are kikes on here that will doxx you. Do not post things like this here.

>>33360539
>Du konzentriest dich nicht auf die Botschaft hinter der Bibel, sondern lobst deren Einband.
Schon wieder, wie mit dem anderen Poster, machst du ad hominem Schlussfolgerungen. Darf eine Bibel kein schönes Einband haben? Ich habe dir die Bibel von Sarto ans Herz gelegt, da sie eine Imprimatur aus dem Jahre 1936 hat, und somit vertrauenswürdig ist und keine post-Vatican-II-Bastardisierung wie die Einheitsübersetzung und andere Bibelkonsorten vom Herderverlag, der übrigens auch den Koran publiziert. Du musst vorsichtig sein von wem und was du was beziehst, du scheinst in deiner Scheinheiligkeit alles zu wissen und rationalisieren.

>1. Alte hebräische und einige griechische Wörter bleiben unübersetzt, der Kontext wird später angegeben.
Dann lerne Hebräisch und Altgriechisch, wenn es dir um "Authenzität" geht.

>2. Die schon-gennanten Übersetzer, die die Autorität da haben, da sie Experten auf diesem Gebiet sind, und die spirituelle Autorität, da sie es mit ganzem Herzen und ohne großere Inzentive (Hier denkt man sich großteils um Dominikanern oder Augustinern, die gar nichts außer die Gnade Gottes in ihrem Leben anstreben).
Wie immer, schaust du nur auf den Rang und das Ansehen der Person, nicht auf die Werk, Resultate und die Qualität bzw. Tugenden die tatsächlich hervorgehen. Typisch unterwürfiger Deutscher, der alles Schweinefraß von einer Obrigkeit frisst.

>sondern dass du das Argument gewinnst, genau was uns in Matthäus 7 erwähnt würde...
Du projizierst dein Laster auf mich. Ich habe guten Herzens, auch wenn für dich grob, einen Ratschlag gegeben, stattdessen lässt du deiner Streitsucht und Unsicherheit freien Lauf.

>Eine Übersetzung ist so gut wie die andere, solange als es keine häretische Lehren äußert, und niemand hat diese Übersetzung aufgrund von Häresie verurteilt auch nicht die Evangelikern.
Sagt der, der häretische Übersetzungen ehrt.

>Die Bibel nicht als Lehrbuch
Da ist das Problem schon.

>>33360909
>Sagt der, der häretische Übersetzungen ehrt.
Jeder Christ, der eine Übersetzung verwendet, die dir nicht gefällt ist ein Heretiker?
Wenn die Person, die es übersetzt, fehlerhaft ist, kann sie aufgrund ihres Charakters die Gnade Gottes nicht fernhalten, also weiß ich nicht, was du argumentierst, ansonsten wäre es ein Versuch, Donatismus wiederzubeleben...
Ich weiß nicht, wieso dich nur für Übersetzungen interessierst, die von der Norm abweichen. Wie ich schon gesagt habe, ist es eine Sünde, den Balken im Auge eines anderen zu sehen und den Balken im eigenen zu ignorieren.
> Ich habe guten Herzens, auch wenn für dich grob, einen Ratschlag gegeben, stattdessen lässt du deiner Streitsucht und Unsicherheit freien Lauf.
Römer 3:10...
Ansonsten, du greifst meine eigene Leidenschaften und behauptest, dass ich irgendwelche Ad Hominem angreife mache?
>Typisch unterwürfiger Deutscher, der alles Schweinefraß von einer Obrigkeit frisst.
Ohne das Magisterium der frühen Kirche hätten wir die Bibel überhaupt nicht...
Die Kirchenväter und die Menschen, die Christus und seine Apostel persönlich kannten, hatten daher das Recht zu sagen was wahr war und was nicht. Mit deiner Denkweise hättest du auf frühe gnostische Schriften hereingefallen.
>Dann lerne Hebräisch und Altgriechisch, wenn es dir um "Authenzität" geht.
Das soll man ebeso machen... Christliche Apologetik kann ohne Stammschriften nicht existieren...
Ebenso, Glaube ich nicht, dass du hier bist um eine wahre Diskussion zu haben, Du fügst grundlose Beleidigungen, Verallgemeinerungen und allgemeine Intoleranz hinzu, während du dich hinter der Bibel versteckst...

>>33353518 (OP)
So you have hobbies? If not get some. Go to local concerts for cool bands you like. Chat with women in crowd that catch your eye and provide friendly conversation. Get her number. Text for a few days. As far as I've gotten cause I don't live in LA. If I did I'd have a girlfriend rn, but ashes to ashes dust to dust. Nice memories and conversation in a scenic city with great music. Appreciate the small things they'll eventually become the big things