i went to a park with a guy, it was nice. we talked, ride on the same bicycle for fun, had some candy at the park while talking. went home.

second time: we went to the cinema, i told him in advance i have no money since im unemployed.
he pays everything, then at the parking lot he wants to kiss me , i decline very politely.

i went away, i saw him being there still as i went away with my bike like he had some reality braking.

i talk to him casually again, he didn’t respond ever again.

is this incel behavior or what? should i do something different next time? am i sending mix signals?

bait

>>33358446 (OP)
guys don't have access to unlimited suitors so they have to lock shit down fast. do you like him or not? you have one redemption.

>>33358446 (OP)
>i decline very politely.
why

>>33358468
cuz i don’t like him lol
i just wanted a friend

>>33358459
i don’t like him at all, i just wanted to hang out

>>33358453
no, is not.
why is it difficult to believe?

>>33358493
Then cut him off, he likes you.

>>33358508
no need, he cut himself off
#femaleloneliness

>>33358493
stop doing that permanently

>>33358482
>I don’t like him lol
so why'd you go on a second date or even a first date?

OP is either a piece of shit or this is bait. Either way, don’t bump this retard’s thread

>>33358523
i will have all the male friends i want. guys have to accept rejection, the thing here is i don’t want to confuse them.

maybe raiding the same bicycle was too intimate dk

>>33358529
fr, why am i a shitty person?

>>33358528
he didn’t say it was a date
for me it was hanging out

>>33358528
most of the time a guy wants to “hang out” with a girl is because they actually think is a “date”

he lit said “wanna hang out?”

>>33358538
i don't think the bicycle meme is that funny anymore

>>33358538
If you want male friends, make friends with gay guys.

>>33358557
is funny cuz i had a gay friend and we end up kissing and holding hands after hanging out one time lol

i didn’t work

>>33358545
>>33358552
why would you hang out - twice - with someone you don't like?

>>33358568
i liked him as a friend, not potential partner

>>33358557
i think is quite dismissive towards men to assume they can have a friend who is a woman. kinda boomer codded opinion

>>33358557
i think is quite dismissive towards men to assume they can’t have a friend who is a woman. kinda boomer codded opinion

>>33358576
so don't go on dates with him

where are your female friends, friends hang out in gay-ass groups of like 5 - especially women. You don't go on romantic sunset bike rides together

Search up the meaning of tone-deaf.

>>33358576
what's wrong with him?

>>33358605
im a tomboy and have issues having female friends. likely due to mommy issues. also i find most afabs boring ngl

i have one “gay” friend tho. we kissed and he touched my butt, i told him to escalate and he frienzoned me. we are normal friends now but he is obviously bi asf

>>33358615
im autistic

>>33358653
people will shower you with attention anyway because you're claiming to be a woman

>>33358638
i don't find him physically attractive at all

bad dry skin, same haight as me 1,64, body too slim, i don’t like his swollen eyes, or his rather big nose. i just find him very much not my type.
and i don’t like men to be so tiny, not that i like chads but i like middle ground in twinkiness and masculinity (like inuyasha or aki from csm) if i want someone tiny i would just date some cute girl (im bi)

he is also nice to hang out, he is funny and easygoing but he dosent have that particular spark that attracts me.

also maybe the fact he is neurotypical… i like autistic people who obsesses over things and are extremely passionate about their likes to a kinda unhealthy degree. i rly value commitment and security.

i did a bit of a walk text cuz i imagine you want to take note or something. im a weird autistic woman so take it lightly

>>33358656
4channers like women so much?

proof you went there?

>>33358652
>>33358675
kinda retarded to go on dates with him if he's such a creepy goblin and you'd rather have sex with a gay guy before him.

>im a tomboy and have issues having female friends.
it sounds like you have issues with male friends as well.

>>33358684
goblins deserve friendship too lol

regarding what you said about male friends: touché

>>33358678
i'm just upset you went to high park of all places. you're not even that smart.

>>33358708
it's not friendship when you're having romantic outings together, with you leading him on because you think he has bad skin

if one of my friends ever messaged me something
>hey bro, you wanna come hang out with me at the park? Just the two of us, we can talk and maybe ride a bike together? :) I have some yummy candy we can share

I would think that he's gone insane and is trying to murder me so that he can wear my skin or something, or someone stole his phone and is also trying to drug me with yummy candy and stuff me in a barrel

If a chick sends me that invitation - that's a date. If I send that invitation to a girl, that's also still a date.

Same with going to the movies alone together. At the very least have the decency to bring a third wheel with you so it's heavily implied that this isn't a date since there's at least one other person there with you.

kill yourself

>>33358568
>>33358605
I'm a guy and I hung out 1 on 1 with girls who were just friends and weren't interested in anything more (I think). And most other people do it too.

>>33358741
those girls were single and were testing the waters

>>33358446 (OP)
Mixed signals maybe. Hard to know not being there.
If you really did just say no than he is being a bitch.
I am guessing by the sitting in the parking lot thing that may be he though you were leading him on to some degree.

No matter what he seems to be a bitch on some level.

>>33358724
>I would think that he's gone insane and is trying to murder me so that he can wear my skin or something, or someone stole his phone and is also trying to drug me with yummy candy and stuff me in a barrel
>If a chick sends me that invitation - that's a date. If I send that invitation to a girl, that's also still a date.
You're insane. As I said, it's totally normal to hang out with just one person, both male and female, and just be friends. You never see your friends unless they're more than one?

>>33358745
Some of them probably. But testing the waters for a year? Without ever making any move other than asking me to hang out?

>>33358757
>You're insane. As I said, it's totally normal to hang out with just one person, both male and female, and just be friends. You never see your friends unless they're more than one?
Of course I've hung out with friends one on one if our schedules were very hectic we hadn't seen each other in a long while.

But in regards to OP's situation, I've never hung out with a friend where the plans were "let's just talk at the park :)" and riding a tandem unicycle and all that

>Some of them probably. But testing the waters for a year? Without ever making any move other than asking me to hang out?
sure I've been friendzoned for the better part of a year myself. Turns out she was waiting for me to make the moves on her, probably the same as your lady friend she was waiting for you to make a move.

>>33358741
POV: you are the only normal person in 4chan

>>33358754
we went there together just because my bike was there and he needed to get his car. that’s it.
i also never did something like touching him or being too close. i wanted to have some obvious distance so is implied im not into him

i find it kinda bitchy too, like i owned him that :T

>>33358797
It's also "normal" to have kids out of wedlock and go through a series of broken, dead-end relationships.
Having no sense of intimacy and a lax attitude towards boundaries is normal to many people, yes. That doesn't mean it's good.

>>33358797
imagine having a gf, and then she's like
>oh yeah I forgot to tell you lol I'm gonna go hang out with miiike tonight just the two of us me and him alone, might go see a movie, might just stay at his place and chill :)

would you be like
>oh please! Babe here you go here's 50$, be a good friend and buy his movie ticket

guys on this webzone already get mad jealous when their hypothetical gf goes out with a group of female friends, imagine going out (or staying in) with just one guy

>>33358757
i should have taken you to the park instead of this guy

>>33358816
>i also never did something like touching him or being too close.
must've been a really long bike that you rode together

>>33358825
i wished reality was always like that green text, so based lol

>>33358834
okey, asides from the bike. i will take into account not to ride bikes with ppl im not into

>>33358838
you wish you were a cuck giving money to your gf so she could fuck a guy (not really)behind your back?

>>33358848
yeah, and same with going 1 on 1 to the movies, or like having a cuddle party sleep or whatever "as friends"

ask yourself "could this be seen as a date or intimate"?

god forbid you become the type of tomboy who just like changes shirts in front of a guy and doesn't think it's sexual or anything because we're all just bros here my guy friend buddy dude

>>33358851
im a woke degenerate who is into open relationships so i don’t mind my partners hanging out and fucking. they tell me later and im like “good for him” (y)

>>33358866
> cuddle party

>>33358884
bros, and girls, will cuddle up with someone of the opposite sex overnight sleeping on/in the same bed/couch/floor and be like "ah I'm glad we're such good friends"

I had a friend like you. I actually kinda friendzoned her for a long time. She became available and suddenly I got feelings and looked at her as a sexual opportunity. She ended up not wanting to date me for personal reasons but we fucked and went through this shit that ended the friendship. She had the same issues making friends with girls and tried to hang out with guys thinking they were just friend hang outs, but the men always assumed it was a date too.

You can't "just be friends" with like 90% of men. That's just the hard reality. Men and women have historically segregated themselves based on gender because that's how we work. Men get with females to romance and fuck them. Most of us are just not able to see them as friends in the way we see men.

Women are a little different in that sense and that is soley because WOMEN VALUE ATTENTION. Men don't. At all. Brotherhood, yeah, but men do not get together without a reason, like going shopping or frivolous shit like that-- we get together to do things we NEED to do. We don't have time for distractions and women who waste our time. Which is what a female friend usually is-- a waste of time and a lot of confusion and stress a male friend would never cause.

So you aren't really trying to be friends with him in the way that a man befriends another man, you're just looking for a non sexual opportunity to distract you when you're bored. A back up option, as it were. You don't care to get to know him or be intimate with him so, why WOULD he want to be your friend when he could get to know a man, or another women who might give him what he wants?

Just look at it from his perspective. Understood that I am telling you what men want from women, and you not providing him with anything he's looking for is why he isn't interested. It's simple as that, and if you want friends you have to make them with women. If you can't do that, get comfortable being friendless like the rest of us. You just cannot REALLY be friends with men.

>>33359053

> projecting inability to connect without sexual stakes.

> lame.

>>33359170
Whatever you say, nice guy. I didn't even say it was impossible. It's rare but also weird. Everyone who sees a man and woman that close assumes they're fucking. I can atest from experience, it IS possible, if temporarily, but what man is out there prioritizing female "friendships" over pussy? Like wow you have a bitch's number in your phone. Doesn't make you real friends, doesn't mean she's gonna let you hit. She might waste time with you but she isn't gonna do anything for you. A woman isn't gonna come help you move furniture or fix something or be useful like a man would, but if that's what you prefer, you can be a gigantic faggot who has plenty of friends who are girls but no girlfriend. Her emptional tampon maybe. The delivery boy for her wine nights. If that's the kind of "man" you want to be lmao. Implies a lot. How many female friends do you have that you wouldn't fuck? Just curious

>>33359053
>Just look at it from his perspective
Why would you even say that to a woman? You may as well ask a pig to fly.

>>33358493
God I hate women like this. Just assume no man ever wants to be your friend.

>>33358780
>sure I've been friendzoned for the better part of a year myself. Turns out she was waiting for me to make the moves on her, probably the same as your lady friend she was waiting for you to make a move.
She was willing to approach me and ask me out but wouldn't make any move to show her intentions and escalate from friendship like just standing closer or touching me... either women are retarded or they all need to select for one kind of guy (the kind who makes all the moves). Unless I'm the one who's more interested and who started it I won't make a move on a woman who can't even show me that she wants to be more than friends.

>>33358652
>afabs
Found the problem.

>>33360050
i sent u a special blue ball spell
*woooosh*

>>33360187
ai is less predictable than a comment like this lol

de manual

>>33358446 (OP)
You did fine.

But on a side point, if you do ever meet a guy and start dating regularly, modern etiquette says you should treat on roughly half the dates. You don't have to match him dollar for dollar, but cook a meal or pack a picnic some of the time.

>>33358493
FUCK YOU

>>33358595
Men are horny apes, men and women can't be friends because men almost always catch feelings eventually. It's even worse now because most young men are sexless losers so the minute a woman shows them even a crumb of attention their loneliness is going to make them see only one thing: love. Men aren't used to attention... not from women, so it's easy to understand why so many misunderstand the signals that women give.

>>33359232
every woman is fuckable for you? you only make female friends based on their physical traits?

How many responses to this thread do you need to realize you were in the wrong?
You don't like him, he stopped responding to you. Just let it go and move on.

>>33363111
No, the only exception is obligation friendships. People at work or school. But I have never gone out of my way to hang out with them if it wasn't something I was already planning to do. And surprise surprise, those female friends don't keep in touch when it isn't convenient for them either.

This guy in the OP probably took time out of his schedule in the goals of a romantic or sexual prospect, only to face what was probably to him, a brutal and unexpected rejection. Maybe he was too stupid and naive to get his hopes up, but OP played a part by misleading him, knowingly or not.

If she had told him ahead of time "Hey wanna hang out, but just as friends to be clear," do you really think he still would have gone to the park with her? Probably not. She just witheld her intentions until she absolutely HAD to. It happens, she isn't wrong for holding the boundary. But it would save a lot of time and damage if women were upfront about their intentions. They aren't though, almost ever-- another reason men and women can't really be friends. Both parties more often than not, are not aiming for the same goal with the other person.


It isn't ideal to have opposite sex friends if you have a partner anyways. You just invite temptation and infidelity. There is nothing an opposite sex "friend" can't give a man that his girlfriend shouldn't be. Unfortunately, women don't seem to understand why they shouldn't have male friends because as I said, they value attention and egostistical applaud. Whatever makes them feel good about themselves, and they want to call it friendship. It just isn't the same.

>>33358493
Young men want to fuck women. Assume this although it's not always true.