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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 3:55:43 AM No.33359338
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Is cico all that matters for weight loss truly?
I’m 35lbs overweight. Can I lose it all without cutting out beer and carbs ?
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:06:53 AM No.33359352
>>33359338 (OP)
Yes but to actually feel satiated youd need more protein and veggies. This isnt even considering the thermic effect of macros.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:14:40 AM No.33359363
>>33359338 (OP)
>beer
Lmao what a faggot
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:18:41 AM No.33359372
>>33359338 (OP)
It is mostly what matters, but it's not the whole story since the human body has a whole involuntary process that reduces the amount of calories you burn. When you gain weight your body creates new fat cells sort of like grapes on a vine, and the vine just extends to create new fat cells. But as you burn off that fat the cells just deflate, they don't go away. As the number of deflated fat cells increases the body reads this as "oh shit, its a famine, must hold onto whatever fat is left at all costs" so your body will reduce your base metabolic rate, meaning the amount of calories you need in a day is reduced (and you're tired and cranky all the time) while also increasing the amount of hormones that create hunger. That's the main reason why people who lose a significant amount of weight always seem to gain it back in a few years.

Give this article a read that followed people from the tv show "The Biggest Loser" for years, documenting this.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/02/health/biggest-loser-weight-loss.html?unlocked_article_code=1.WU8.qqGk.jpUIViNUXGfM&smid=url-share

But since you're only losing 35 pounds instead of hundreds this would probably not be so profound in you. That said, if you want to have this weight loss be sustainable you need to develop better eating habits that are sustainable. You can work crap like pizza and beer into your diet, but it's really best to try to limit that if you can. Especially if you drink regularly.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:41:12 AM No.33359425
>>33359363
>straight edge cuck
Lmao
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 5:40:53 AM No.33359639
>>33359338 (OP)
>beer and carbs
They tend to be a bit estrogenic, particularly the beer, which in turn will add some fat at the expense of muscle. It isn't weight per se that you need to be concerned about but overall body composition.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 5:51:56 AM No.33359710
>>33359372
Wow. This helped so much man man thx
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 6:05:55 AM No.33359774
>>33359338 (OP)
Cut the carbs and some of the beer, it will come off.
Some rice as filler is ok but don't take it beyond that
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 7:22:08 AM No.33359971
>>33359338 (OP)
(1/2)
>Is cico all that matters for weight loss truly?
Yes, but there are complex physiological, social, and psychological mechanisms that influence how much you consume. There are studies that show even food experts underestimate how many calories are in food, but you can know how much you are eating with proper tracking. Aim for 10-11 times your body weight in calories and you are good to go.
>Can I lose it all without cutting out beer and carbs?
Two things to know about carbs.
1. Carbs (and protein and particularly alcohol) store water in the body. The main reason Keto is so popular is that it delivers fast "results" by reducing water weight fast, but reasonable diets can only make you lose 1, maybe 2 pounds of fat per week.
2. When dieting, you want both to maintain as much muscle as possible while being as satisfied as possible.
To list from calories that are best to sacrifice to calories you should keep:
1. Alcohol. If you want the effects of alcohol, consider doing shots. They are only like 100 calories each. Alcohol just sucks. Beer is a little more satisfying than others, but it is worse for losing weight than literal goyslop. The water loss from cutting out beer will also be nice.
2. "extra" fat in foods. You will need to roughly measure oil anyways, but just make sure it is the minimum required for taste. The type of oil doesn't matter too much. I had asparagus from a restaurant once and it was like 600 calories because of oil. You'll want to get good at seasoning to make up for this. Ideally, you should not have animal products with too much extra fat either.
3. Overly processed foods. These may seem like they are bad because they are carbs, but up to half of the calories from these products come from unsatisfying fats.
4. Carbs. Carbs are carbs. Don't worry about glycemic index or any of that nonsense. If you have an otherwise "healthy" diet, carbs are the next best place to cut from.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 7:24:32 AM No.33359978
>>33359338 (OP)
>>33359971
(2/2)
5. Natural fatty animal/vegetable products. You don't need to get rid of the egg yolk to lose weight. Animal or "keto" foods tend to be about as satisfying as carbs. If you are like me, you probably won't overindulge in them.
6. Fruits/vegetables. Just make sure to keep an eye on extra calories coming from starchy vegetables and fruits.
7. Protein. Nerds will tell you to eat 1 gram per bodyweight. You can see benefits from considerably less than half of that lofty goal. Protein is more satisfying per calories in some ways than even vegetables. Consider lean meats as a primary option since it is very hard to get a good amount of protein any other way.
8. Fat required for physical functioning. Getting rid of fat in your diet is great and everything, but some extreme diets don't have enough fat for organ functioning. Almost no one has this problem.
I lost weight and got fat again, but judge the message not the messenger. Losing weight for you might be a little easier than for me since you probably just like beer too much and eat a little extra foot.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 7:26:04 AM No.33359980
>>33359971
glycemic index isn't nonsense, insulin spikes are a real thing and they can lead to metabolic syndrome
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 7:53:47 AM No.33360044
>>33359338 (OP)
Uh, yeah. I mean as long as your nutritional needs are being met, that's pretty much it. If you're willing to do the exercise, go for it.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 8:07:21 AM No.33360080
>>33360044
https://www.cochrane.org/evidence/CD005105_do-low-glycaemic-index-or-low-glycaemic-load-diets-help-people-overweight-or-obesity-lose-weight
Low-glycemic diets might have some benefits, but it's the sort of token diet effort I see fat people switching to and then eating the same amount. Metabolic syndrome mostly just exists because of obesity.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 8:11:15 AM No.33360091
>>33359338 (OP)
Just drink alcohol free beer
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 9:37:56 AM No.33360285
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>>33359338 (OP)
Yes, and no.
You'll lose weight but that weight isn't just fat, you'll lose muscles as well.
So while you're in the correct weight for height, you body fat percentage would be high making you skinny fat.
You need to stay physically active AND balanced diet with enough~ish protein.