has anyone had experience dating someone with ASPD? - /adv/ (#33360921) [Archived: 340 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/14/2025, 1:11:15 PM No.33360921
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my girl has just confessed shes a diagnosed psychopath which makes alot of sense. i'm not talking slightly crazy, she has no problem hurting people at all. the thing is she worships me and treats me like a king, but i'm realising now this could just be love bombing in order to get me to lower my guard. I enjoy our relationship but will it eventually fade and will i get fucked over? how the fuck do i get out of this
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 1:19:33 PM No.33360935
>>33360921 (OP)
Psychopaths are incapable of empathy and therefore incapable of healthy relationships. The fallout from this is going to be horrendous for you.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 1:26:16 PM No.33360951
>>33360935
can you tell me more bro? how the fuck do i leave? I tried one time before and she went crazy
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 1:54:55 PM No.33361039
>>33360921 (OP)
women say a lot of stupid things for attention
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 1:59:20 PM No.33361052
>>33361039
i know shes not lying
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:03:26 PM No.33361059
>>33361052
how? did you see the diagnosis yourself
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:04:21 PM No.33361060
>>33361059
no i didnt but i've seen plenty of other evidence that suggests she is
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:11:41 PM No.33361078
>>33361060
like hurting people? she could just be brootally honest, have assburgers or just be an a-hole. or do you think she is not in control of her actions and guided by some subconscious evil? a condition is just a condition, just like some autists can't read faces. doesn't mean they can't choose to pick up a book and learn to fix that deficiency.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:12:57 PM No.33361083
>>33360921 (OP)
Psychopathy means no affective empathy. It means she won't feel second-hand feelings. A good test to try is yawn in front of her, notice she won't also yawn. It's because the affective empathy is switched off.

Means if she saw you hurt or go through something horrific, it won't move her at all. It'll be as plain and unremarkable as watching clouds go by.

Psychopaths/sociopaths/ASPDs whatever you wanna call em, not all of them are gonna be evil or devoid of care though.

They can have cognitive empathy. Cognitive empathy is where they can think how something may feel. They can use their thoughts and thinking to stand-in for the missing empathy.

They won't feel anything from thinking about your hurt or feelings. But from there they can approximate what the best response should be and then act that out.

And their motivation for doing so will be from a transactional place. They will want to behave in a way that benefits you because they know it will benefit themselves.

Aka they notice if you are happy, then it means you will do nice things for them etc.

Not every psychopath is rigged to pursue things like manipulation or sabotage or criminality. It all depends on whether or not they have a moral code.

Psychos don't feel morality. But they can adhere to a personal moral code that they choose to live by. For example, a religious psychopath will want to act as a good person because they see the logic in it. They also see divine reward in it. So that's what they do.

If you can be okay with this, the relationship can work. You won't develop a 'real' close connection, but you can develop a transactional mutually respectful arrangement that functions about as well as any other relationship out there.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 2:23:38 PM No.33361107
>>33361078
shes hurt people and animals. she swears that she would never do it to me (because apparently i'm the only one whos ever been nice to her)
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 3:14:53 PM No.33361286
>>33361107
Why would you want to do that to yourself? Is the pussy so good?
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:44:00 PM No.33361602
>>33360951
The only way you can leave is complete no-contact. If she gets in contact with you, her tendrils will wrap back around you. It's hard to do, but it's the only way to save yourself. Women like this will cheat on you and not think anything of it.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:46:51 PM No.33361609
>>33361107
That's serial killer behavior. Also, when she says she would never do it to you, what she means is that she would never do it in the current moment. She has the capacity to do it, and given that she's already hurting animals, it's only a matter of time until she escalates. Basically, gtfo and stop being stupid
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 4:54:02 PM No.33361637
>>33360921 (OP)
>>33361107
nigga no amount of pussy is worth that kind of shit. run.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 6:02:19 PM No.33361846
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>>33360921 (OP)
Christtianity, this dude David Wood (diagnosed psychopath) tried to kill his father with a hammer becuase he just didn't care about life, later converted in prison and now has a family and lives as a happy father.
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 6:09:07 PM No.33361874
>>33360921 (OP)
Yes. Get out. It's not going to be worth the stress and hair loss and the lost sleep.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 7:26:50 PM No.33362096
>>33361846
David Wood is proof that the world is more psychopathic than actual psychopaths. He has like 3 - 4 kids, one or more of them born severely disabled, refused to abort, refused to give up on them, chose to emulate love for them (despite not feeling it, he still acted the part), and spends his free time to argue for the importance of virtues and morals.

Yet his detractors, non-psychopaths, celebrated when his kid died, wished death on his other kids, etc.

Normies are more sick in the head than the average psycho now lol
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 7:59:33 PM No.33362273
>>33360921 (OP)
>>33361107
How freaky is she in bed?
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 8:15:30 PM No.33362347
>>33360921 (OP)
> my girl has just confessed shes a diagnosed psychopath which makes alot of sense
Come on man, what more is there to say? And don’t underestimate a manipulative, crazy, woman. She will bend you to her will without you even realizing what’s happened until one day you’re left wondering how things ever got so bad. If you don’t trust her, that’s your answer. The wrong woman will ruin you, even one who is not a psychopath.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 11:05:53 PM No.33363110
>>33360921 (OP)
Off-topic but is this a new zoomer fashion, women posing for a photo with their legs wide apart?
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Anonymous
7/14/2025, 11:27:56 PM No.33363198
>>33363110
It's an attention starved woman doing attention starved things. They always do whatever gets the most thirsty comments, likes and follows. She knows that wearing skintight leggings and opening her legs gets attention, so she does that and takes the pic. But she awkwardly scrunches her hair in her hand and gives a casual witless face expression on purpose as if to say "I got NO idea what you guys are looking at teehee" so she can feel like she isn't actually baiting for attention. But she also knows she is baiting for attention.
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 12:28:11 AM No.33363514
>>33361286
>>33362273
actually it is. shes crazy good at sex. best ive ever had easily
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 12:44:07 AM No.33363600
>>33363514
its cuz cluster B chicks, aspds or bpds or npds or whatever, they just mirror and mimic your desires. They figure out what you want and then pretend to be that.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 1:18:58 AM No.33363764
>>33360921 (OP)
Dump her immediately, dude. Like right this second.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 2:33:58 AM No.33364193
>>33361637
LMAO this. N'wah you're in for a nuclear meltdown
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 2:36:23 AM No.33364212
>>33363600
>>33363764
>>33364193

how the FUCK do i get out of this? Last time i tried to dump her she went crazy, theres no telling what she will do
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 4:10:51 AM No.33364652
>>33360921 (OP)
idk bruh, just sounds to me like you got a powerful ally
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 4:22:12 AM No.33364683
>>33364652
thats what id like to think, but then why is nearly EVERYONE telling me to GTFO then?
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 4:22:40 AM No.33364685
>>33360921 (OP)
She is a fucking harpy bro, if you are worth your salt as a man, you will curb your desire and do what is necessary for your own greater good. If you get out now, you have a good chance of rebounding much sooner. An attractive woman with diagnosable mental problems is a trojan horse brotha.
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 5:14:02 AM No.33364877
>>33360921 (OP)
Lol damn bro... you're fucked... you should just marry her lol. don't wanna poke the bear. probably make a few babies, keep her happy.
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 2:40:58 PM No.33366529
>>33360935
fpbp
>>33361107
did she attack them physically? like, did they bleed
>>33364683
anon be wary. either nothing will happen(she's just making shit up) or shit will hit the fan
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 2:48:43 PM No.33366574
>>33364683
>thats what id like to think, but then why is nearly EVERYONE telling me to GTFO then?

Because most people hear the word ‘psychopath’ and their mind instantly thinks of serial killers, murderers, arsonists, rapists, liars, cheaters, deceivers, manipulators. They instantly think of the caricatures that Hollywood portrayed in shows and movies.

Thing is, psychopaths only make up 1% of the human population. In any given crime or betrayal, chances are it’s a non-psycho who kills you, or cheats you.

Psychopaths are definitely the most capable of all people to commit crime or betrayal. But just because someone is capable does not mean they are willing. It’s the willingness part that is the most dangerous.

And when normal, non-psycho people feel floods of emotion or justification, they can and will commit many fucked up things, same as a psycho would. They become the most willing people of all. All it takes is for certain emotions to flood them and all of a sudden they can kill you or cheats you as good as any psycho. Sometimes even better.

Look man, when it comes to people, psycho or not, what you judge is their actions. If their actions show you that they intend to harm you, then thats all the info you need. As for killing animals and hurting people, ask for more info. What animal? Why did she kill it? How old was she? Same for hurting others.

Cuz some people gut fish or break rabbits in two for food and we dont care. If a psycho kid does it out of boredom, all of a sudden everyone loses their shit.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 2:57:46 PM No.33366608
>>33364212
>how the FUCK do i get out of this? Last time i tried to dump her she went crazy, theres no telling what she will do

Also how did she go crazy? What did she do? Or say? Cuz if she was hysterical and crying and shit, thats somewhat normal. No one likes heartbreak, it sucks. But if she did do this, it make me rethink if she even is a psycho. Lotta psychos dont care if you break up at all. They just move along like a tank or train, no care in the world.

I know this because I asked an ASPD/psycho how they felt during breakups. They did that typical psycho thing, answered a question with a question:
>”How do you feel when your phone breaks?”
in a calm and unbothered tone.

Thats the psychopathic way of responding to breakups. They dont care. They just replace their human object with a new one, same as you would a phone.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 4:36:12 PM No.33366972
>>33366608
In reality mentally ill people do not fit into the neat and tidy categories of the DSMV. Except for stuff like schizos and anxiety.

The real crazies, the scorpions among us.. most people have never met one. They tend to bleed into several different mental illnesses.

Im unfortunately a sibling of one and an ex to another, and have traits of it myself.

They are also extremely slippery conversationalists and have a tenuous grasp on reality so truth is its hard to really nail down their exact diagnosises if they even truly exist.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 5:04:24 PM No.33367124
>>33361083
very helpful, thank you
I think gf is phychopath, she admited she didn't have empathy when my dad passed away.
when I get sick, it annoys her, etc

that's why she's just my gf, that won't go further
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 5:17:49 PM No.33367173
>>33366972
>They are also extremely slippery conversationalists and have a tenuous grasp on reality so truth is its hard to really nail down their exact diagnosises if they even truly exist.

Well it’s one of those things that psychiatrists failed to pin down as truly existing. That’s why they stopped using ‘psychopathy’ and ‘sociopathy’ as a clinical diagnostic since the 80’s and 90’s. Now it’s all ‘spectrums’ lol. And the spectrum for psychopathy is surprisingly large. According to it, I am on that spectrum. So are people with autism or adhd, both of those are the most common mental disorders out there. So in that respect, there’s tons of so-called psychopaths out there.

Psychopathy translated from greek means
Psyche (mind/soul)
Pathos (Suffering/Ailment)

Suffering soul is what it is directly translated. And according to modern psychiatry, psychopathy as a trait, means seeking of short-term gain at the expense of your own well-being or the dignity of others around you.

In other words, psychopathy is when you are internally at odds with your own psyche, that you seek instant relief in the form of dopamine to keep yourself distracted from your own self.

And people who exist in this way will always show as low empathy. Because they don’t have room for it. They can’t feel empathy, even if they really wanted to. They are in a constant rat-race inside themselves of moving like a shark to drown out whatever it is inside thats eating at them.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 5:28:08 PM No.33367228
>>33360951
>how the fuck do i leave? I tried one time before and she went crazy
What did she do, specifically? Knowing she has you under her thumb like that, she's more likely to escalate in the future. Now she knows that she can treat you poorly and you'll still stay.
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 6:10:47 PM No.33367456
>>33367173
interesting. well it just goes to show why the professionals are professionals and most of the rest of us are clueless talking about this stuff. Honestly i have my reservations about psychology as a field. How can a science continually reinvent itself. its basically a "science" based mostly on culture except for some of its elements.

regardless yeah, my general point (and I think you're in agreement, just want to re-iterate for clueless anons) is that genuine crazy people like OP's gf are simply mercurial beings and there's no predicting or managing what they can and will do, EVER. They cannot really be contained or managed especially if they're intelligent, which the subtype of crazy that OP is dealing with is usually extremely intelligent in some ways.

tl;dr: OP is outmatched and outgunned, the coom will be systematically extracted from him physically and mentally until his lifeforce is used up. His best outcome is if she loses interest in him and discards him.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 6:57:10 PM No.33367718
>>33360921 (OP)
psychopath is not synonymous with ASPD. Psychopath is not a diagnosis in 2025, your gf is not a "diagnosed psychopath" quit lying.
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Anonymous
7/15/2025, 7:05:52 PM No.33367767
>>33367456
>Honestly i have my reservations about psychology as a field. How can a science continually reinvent itself. its basically a "science" based mostly on culture except for some of its elements.

So do some psychiatrists. It’s a field that cannibalises itself often. Look up the Anti-psychiatry movement, started by psychiatrists themselves lol.
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 7:30:19 PM No.33367844
>>33367456
>is that genuine crazy people like OP's gf are simply mercurial beings and there's no predicting or managing what they can and will do, EVER. They cannot really be contained or managed especially if they're intelligent, which the subtype of crazy that OP is dealing with is usually extremely intelligent in some ways.

I'm in complete agreement too on this. You're spot on about their mercurial nature, which if OP were to pay attention to, would naturally turn him off in an instant. To be mercurial means to be predictable. We say mercurial because mercury is a hot and cold planet. One minute the psycho is all hot, emblazed in passion, whether that's love bombing or devaluing and abusing. Next minute they don't care. They're cold. They are dead inside, and they see their partner as dead too.

What makes the psychopath unpredictable in their shifting unlike for example, a Bipolar's mood swings, or an autist's sensory overloaded meltdown, or an adhd's dysregulated length of mood changes etc etc is that the psycho has no pattern. It's completely seemingly random, happens on a dime. Just one single word or gesture can set them off. The internal reasoning for it is known only to the psycho. And the psycho's internal world runs on its own self-made logic, incompatible with everything we know in civility.

That is, if you only examine adult rules. If you instead compare them to a child, and use child-psychology, and try to predict them as if you were anticipating the moves a child may make in any given situation, all of a sudden the psychopath becomes very, very understandable and transparent. Because their logic and child logic (often overlooked and forgotten by most adult humans) is 1:1 almost the exact same. Fascinating stuff.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 1:32:31 AM No.33369463
>>33366529
she did, she killed some cats and a bird and broke some girls arm (as a kid)
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 1:39:16 AM No.33369476
>>33367124
Dude you gotta split things off if you want a permanent partner who loves you.
Key word loves you.
Just don't get killed/stalked/betrayed/etc.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:24:24 PM No.33373711
>>33360951
>i tried one time before and she went crazy
okay? what the fuck is wrong with you. do you have a spine? are you a lesbian woman? let her go crazy. if she kills herself then let her, if she assaults you defend yourself and call the police, if she tries to damage your shit do the same.
but no, just let her literally control you forever because you, a man, are scared of a woman. like do you think the relationship is just going to magically disappear one day?
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:28:55 PM No.33373738
>>33366574
we've established this person is willing and doesn't follow a proper moral code because they already hurt other people and animals. they just dont hurt OP yet for some reason.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 11:19:28 PM No.33374369
>>33373738
im nice
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 12:47:19 AM No.33374690
>>33369463
animal torture is also a sign of the 'tism
and 'tism symptoms can easily look like aspd
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 12:54:24 AM No.33374713
>>33369463
>she did, she killed some cats and a bird and broke some girls arm (as a kid)
sounds fake but idk why though
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:14:49 AM No.33375568
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>>33360921 (OP)
> She worships me and treats me like a king
> I enjoy our relationship
Notice how you didn't say, "I love her." Brother, no amount of pussy is worth being with someone who (1) has either expressed or shown that she is capable of hurting people for petty reasons and (2) is wholly incapable of empathy. This is not someone you want to tie yourself down to or, God forbid, have children with.
> will I get fucked over?
Yes. BAD things are bound to happen.
> how the fuck do i get out of this
That depends on your living situation - if you signed a lease with her, tough shit. You'd have to get in touch with your landlord and figure something out if you want to bail early. If that's not an option, buckle up and hope for the best until the lease ends. If you're not living with her, this whole process will be much easier. Take her out on a date - somewhere pubic but not crowded (parks are a good option weather-providing). Tell her that, "It's just not working, I want to break up" and rattle off some reasons that sound believable enough. It would probably benefit you to be recording the conversation on your phone without her knowledge. If she loses her cool and threatens you outright, take that recording to a court and file for a restraining order. Even better if she threatens you over text (less legally dubious and cell companies can verify her number). Even if she doesn't threaten you, be vigilant for the next several weeks and let loved ones know your situation. Maybe install a ring camera to make sure she doesn't stalk your house. Basically, don't be a dumb-ass and cover all your bases. Does she own a gun? If so, that could prove VERY problematic. If not, at least keep something on your person to defend yourself. If you don't have a CPL, depending on your state and municipality, you may be able to carry a switch-blade. Better than nothing. This is the absolute worst-case scenario, though. More likely than not, you'll just have to deal with a bitch harassing you.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:18:26 AM No.33375582
>>33367718
The truth is that the DSM is politically-motivated pseudoscience and always has been.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:31:23 AM No.33375631
>>33361083
There should be a term for people who don't employee cognitive empathy and choose to only act off vibes and their own emotions, because they're the ones currently ruining the world. Between them and psychopaths I wonder how many people actually integrate their affective and cognitive empathy into an adult moral framework and how many are just bumbling philosophical zombies
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:38:40 AM No.33375898
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doctor -> CAN speak calmly with people about to die
pilot -> CAN land a plane with broken engine
military/policemen -> CAN kill people in cold blood
CEO -> CAN fire thousand of people to "stop-loss"
fireman -> tourist buildings in fire to save people
Any leader -> the goals justify the means

But they still contribute more to the common good than your average joe.

So?