How do you date as a non-Chad? Do you just take what you can get? I think I might rather go hermit mode

>>33379024 (OP)
Everyone takes what they can get. That's life.
>n-no I deserve a 10/10 rich blonde bimbo because um, well, I just do okay!?
Piss off. Date some dumpy idiot trailer park girl, that's your bracket bro.

>>33379034
Trailer park girls can be great quality
>>33379024 (OP)
Hermit mode is better imo than settling

>>33379034
She doesn't have to be rich, blonde, or even pretty. She just has to not do drugs. Why is this such an astronomic standard?

>>33379071
Uhhh, you dont get to have standards you fucking CHUD
Now shut up and pay the rent of a single mom, she might let you hit

>>33379024 (OP)
It's not like women only fuck genetically gifted guys. If you want a relationship where you're seen as more important than her exes or new dick that's probably not going to happen. If you can just be casual about it there's a lot of different women you could probably fuck. Don't ever get in a serious relationship just because they're what's there or you think you were "forced" into it. There's always a choice and you can choose not to be with women you don't actually like that much. Men are so retarded for doing that.

>>33379024 (OP)
>I believe in bigfoot and the tooth fairy, this scares me
grow up

You retards don't genuinely believe in labels such as "Chad", right? Yeah there's successful men but you act as if every person you meet in life instantly labels you as "Chad" or "Virgin" when in actuality no one cares about you as you are simply 1/8,000,000,000.

Virgin above me

>>33379200
Cringe
>>33379202
Based

>>33379024 (OP)
Chad is a myth.

>>33379076
Okay, Shlomo.

>>33379024 (OP)
>How do you date as a non-Chad? Do you just take what you can get?
That's every single man that isn't like a dictator

>>33379200
>>33379202
>>33379216
3 Virgins

>>33379200
>>33379202
>>33379216
>>33379407
sexless virgins above me

>>33379024 (OP)
You have to learn how to get into different social groups. When you meet new people, talk about fun activities and places to visit. Things you suspect you might have in common. Talk about what exciting thing is happening or about upcoming events related to the things that you have in common. Prioritize talking to groups of people rather than 1 on 1's. Also, learn how to make friends with women. Don't just see every woman as a romantic prospect. Let them help you improve yourself and give you advice about other women. Don't take the advice, but let them feel like they're helping you. The best wing man is a girl.

There’s nothing stopping you but your own fear of rejection.
Chad is a mindset. You can bat outside your league once you embrace it.

>>33379024 (OP)
When you date as a Chad you grab what's available, the fuck kind of question is that?

>>33379024 (OP)
You don't. You're a slave the chad-foid duopoly. Your genes are shit and you deserve to get life cucked by chad, literally. You should raise another Chad's son and be happy for even being allowed to live. That is your calling
>>33379114
They do retard . They truly are the spiritual successors of Nazis and their lifestyle needs to be protected at all costs. All subhuman degenerates below 6'2, ugly, balding, acne ridden freaks deserve to be castrated & worked to death. I'm glad women are using their powers to eradicate subhumans from the genepool

Usually the girls you get to pick from are the ones that go out of their way to talk to you and laugh at your cringe jokes. If you had a girl doing that and didn't hit on them you missed out on teen love

>>33379791
>They do retard
You're just one of many living examples that women don't only fuck men with the best genes. You and many others have far from the best genes. And even if women did start doing this only a small amount would be able to get the best results. Since most women's genes and behaviors that shape genes now are average or trash their kids wouldn't even be allowed to fully express the good genes they might have gotten from the gifted father. Women are using their powers of choice to get fat as hell, get on all kinds of harmful drugs, drink themselves to death, sleep with everyone but a man that would stay with them and their kids (despite them getting stds easier than men by default) to the point STDs are much more common and mutating, having kids when they're near menopausal, let evil men or people around their kids etc. Women's behavior can't honestly be called eugenic or good for the species. If it was you would be one of many good results instead of the disappointment you are now.

>>33381185
Stds also pass to children. When you're a population that gets these diseases easier than the other half of the population and you go out of your way to sleep with men who have fucked many other women (and probably men atp) you're pretty much guaranteeing you'll catch something. And again because they did this so much many of these diseases are resisting the typical treatment that used to control them. People can easily talk about how dirty gays are for this behavior but when women do it as the ones who get pregnant it's just crickets. Or "oh boy maybe I'll get a turn to indirectly fuck and suck the various men she did, I'm so lucky".

>>33379024 (OP)
All the good looking women who would make great wives and mothers are taken in high school and college the latest. Whatever remains is taken shortly after they enter the workforce. There exist very few good looking (7 and above) women that are single and have a good heart, are modest, raised in a decent family, soft spoken and pretty. The window of opportunity when they are single is very very narrow. These are the 2% of women, the highest stock of females this wonderful creation can offer. If you don't frequent their circles or the events they attend you have no chance of meeting them. Women also don't go anywhere alone, so whatever hobbies women have or events they attend it is done with their husband or boyfriend and if they are single with their groups of friends.

tldr; there simply aren't enough single good looking young white women to go around for everybody, they are rare and exist mostly in very niche places where men without social circles (loners) can't get in to

>>33379024 (OP)
Grindr. Always Grindr. Even as a Chadlite, you can score a much hotter trans gf than you'd ever normally.

>>33379024 (OP)
>How do you date as a non-Chad?
You don't date Stacey.

Would you even want to date a Stacey? Just some bitchy blonde retard who only cares about basketball and shoes and tik tok.

>in b4 "Chad fucks anime nerd girls, and literature nerd girls, and goth nerd girls, and indie rock nerd girls, and leftist they/them bisexual nerd girls, and gamer nerd girls, and stoner nerd girls, and fat cat lady girl nerds - just to spite us anonymous 4chan posters

>>33381696
>good looking women who would make great wives and mothers

>implying that LOOKS is what makes a great wife/mother

it was over for you before it even began. You would've been divorcing and marrying a different bitch every 10 years because she stopped being a tight 19 year old.

Marrying for looks is the worst form of retardation.

>>33379034
To this anon’s point, everyone settles.

>>33381747
I can tell you never met one of these wonderful creatures, they are rare indeed. Oh well, the less you know the better.

>>33381796
>gloating about your retarded wife on an anonymous vietnamese discord channel

you must be really cool

>>33379024 (OP)
>I think I might rather go hermit mode
Please do that, yes.

>>33381828
it is, in fact, the guy who has settled into contentment with his looksmatch wife who is the normal one. you seething about it is weird

>>33381747
Looks matter a lot for a relationship and aging doesn't have to be as bad for women as it usually is. There's so many things they do that age them faster and worse.

>>33379024 (OP)
everyone settles. unless you are dating a famous billionaire virgin, you are settling. the point is to enjoy who you are settling with and to improve your life enough to a point where you actually don't mind settling for someone you can actually attract.

>>33381874
Setting and loving someone are mutually exclusive

>>33381747
Physical attraction is what all other forms of attraction spawn from

>>33381874
Everyone settles but it's not all the same. When guys talk about settling or lowering them standards even further they're usually talking about getting with something like a fat woman they don't really like but feel they should just accept because they're stupid, taking advice from other stupid men and lack self respect. When you're dealing with choices in partners that made themselves much uglier than necessary there's no reason to accept it. At that point you're lying to yourself and larping just so you can say you technically got with someone.

>>33381879
Loving someone is very vague. It doesn't take much to say you love someone but the intensity and things like care or commitment are probably going to be lacking.

>>33381841
>the guy who has settled into contentment with his looksmatch wife who is the normal one
but you;re talking about how good looking your wife is and how better looking she is than all the fools who have "settle" for regular women

>>33381856
>Looks matter a lot for a relationship
>>33381887
>Physical attraction is what all other forms of attraction spawn from
zoomers are unable to see past their 20s

>>33381960
Retard many zoomers are a perfect example that aging like shit is unnecessary. They're not that old yet at all but they aged terribly. They got no sleep, they ate like shit and at bad times, they drank too much, they fucking vaped which is much worse than smoking, they didn't touch grass or get sun because they were busy doom scrolling etc. You think people age badly just because time passes you fucking moron.

>>33381981
>people age badly
people just age bro, like it or not you and your wife are (probably) going to make it to 40, 60, 80 years old.

If you marry based on looks alone, your marriage ain't gonna make it that far.

>>33381981
Zoomers literally couldn't go outside because most of them grew up as only children in neighborhoods without many other kids their age. Plus Karens calling the cops on "unattended" kids

>>33382005
People don't age the same though and there's a big difference between people who took care of themselves and those who abused their bodies. Even when you don't win the genetic lottery your health is still usually tied to your looks. Your skin sags worse and your teeth rot out your mouth. No one said anything about marriage being about looks but looks are important for these relationships. You can pretend it doesn't matter but all the evidence says otherwise. Saying your looks don't matter is like saying your health doesn't matter. Only idiots actually believe this.

>>33381887
Great, so you should understand why women want nothing to do with you then.

>>33382005
>>33382038
>No one said anything about marriage being about looks only*

>>33381981
Zoomers don't smoke or drink because they can't afford it.

>>33382041
The average woman is like 50 pounds overweight hiding under a mask of chemicals that makes them worse off long term

>>33382037
Anyone could take even a short walk by themselves in or out the sun
>>33382045
You're confusing the cost of drinking or smoking with the cost of houses

>>33382056
Kids aren't going to go outside alone. When you're a kid/teen, being outside alone isn't fun, it's depressing.

>>33382056
If they can't afford housing, they can't afford alcohol or smoking either.

>>33382038
>there's a big difference between people who took care of themselves and those who abused their bodies.
Even that 40 year old tik toker or whoever it is that's been getting blood transfusion and organ transplants and whatever from his zoomer son still looks like a 40 year old.

Everyone ages, doesn't matter how much cream you rub on your skin. Looks fade over time.

If you were attracted to a 19 year old purely for her looks, you won't be attracted to her when she's 40.

>>33382044
maybe no one said it outright, but the divorce rates say otherwise. As do the eternal coomers who divorce and re-marry with some 19 year old blond every decade or so until they're 85 years old.

>>33379024 (OP)
>You don't
-FIN-

>>33382060
Brushing your teeth is even less fun or enjoyable than going outside alone but it's infinitely more depressing having no teeth or ugly teeth for when you smile and talk to others. Zoomers do smoke and drink. You might as well argue they don't eat too much or at all either.

>>33382064
That guy looks like a well aged lesbian in her late 40s

>>33381696
Yes, Olzley is pretty.
No, she is probably not what you want because she is a religious nut job
Pick your poison.

>>33382064
One random tiktoker you can't even name doesn't change how important health and lifestyle is for aging. You sound like that guy with the beer gut who also eats too much pretending time passing did it to you. Looks matter a lot for relationships and in general. Most divorces are initiated by women who always have another man ready for a new relationship.

>>33382091
People who do something as simple as just timing when they eat or do one meal a day lose so much weight.

If zoomers can spend hundreds or even thousands of dollars on shitty skins or gacha garbage they can easily spend money on vapes or alcohol. And they do.

>>33382091
looks matter when you're still dating and in "relationships", they're worthless in a marriage.

>>33382551
Looks only don't matter if you're not having sex ever again. In which case you're better having same sex roommates than a wife.

>>33382568
>Looks only don't matter if you're not having sex ever again.
Bro thinks he's still gonna be having sex 8 times a day with his wife when they're in their 40s, nevermind their 70s lmao

>>33382573
>Bro thinks he's still gonna be having sex 8 times a day
Can you make a point without a strawman? Were you dropped as a baby?

>>33382573
If you were personally planning on getting married to an ugly woman you don't like just say that instead of talking as if it's the only option.

>>33382587
show me le scientific graph of truth and science that shows that sex increases over time in a marriage and doesn't just immediately nosedive after a few years.

>>33382593
You can like someone without her being an eternal 10/10 in terms of looks. I believe people call that "love".

>>33382687
Show me where I said that's what usually happens. You know divorce is common in marriage too despite that not being how it's supposed to be either. Just avoid serious relationships instead of accepting shit conditions because it's how many other people lived. Using that logic you might as well get fat as fuck and die early too because that's common.
>>33382691
No one said anything about 10/10, again quote where it was said, but people can and have had sex and avoided aging like shit past 40. You're just the type that would rather accept rotting faster than necessary or accepting that behavior in a woman in a relationship. You realize you can rot by yourself too right?

>>33382108
Zoomers smoke and drink far less than previous generations because the prices are much higher.

>You can like someone without her being an eternal 10/10 in terms of looks. I believe people call that "love
I know I asked them to quote where where I mentioned 10/10 being needed but the retarded failure won't show it because it wasn't posted. This is like people saying "nobodies perfect" to avoid criticism and conditions improving. If they can rationalize any improvements or basic maintenance of the body as perfection they can more comfortably fail and stuff their faces or take drugs that make them worse.

>>33382754
But yet they still do those things and worse like spending money on skins or useless gacha games or vaping. Vaping is worse than cigarettes.

>>33382732
>Show me where I said
>>33382732
>No one said anything about 10/10, again quote where it was said,
so what are you saying

I'm saying that marriage based on looks and looks alone is pointless, and backwards.

Christ, for the longest time marriage was just a form of bartering between families where Family X gave their daughter away to Family Y along with a her of sheep in exchange for their daughter getting a part of the dirt farming empire that they ran, and a wife's purpose was purely functional - she just plopped out as many kids as she could so they too could work the wheat fields or coal mines or whatever and hopefully get married into a wealthier family in exchange for some cotton strings.

>>33382763
Ok so you're just talking out of your ass and bringing up 10/10s for no reason. Sex was seen as a marital duty even in ancient times besides just plopping kids out. Imagine being so fucking retarded you think generations ago people didn't enjoy sex for the feeling and not just to have kids. Also in the past that work they did along with lacking excess food along with women having to respect their husbands more meant these women might as well have been 10/10s compared to ghetto shrek in makeup.

>>33382781
>women might as well have been 10/10s compared to ghetto shrek in makeup
Ghetto shrek with purple hair who's constantly screeching about hating men for things they do worse themselves or because of rape and killing they only ever experienced in the shitty novels they masturbate to.

>>33382781
>Sex was seen as a marital duty even in ancient times besides just plopping kids out.
>besides
sex was a dirty dirty dirty sin, and its only purpose was to birth more child labour

>Imagine being so fucking retarded you think generations ago people didn't enjoy sex for the feeling and not just to have kids.
those people were whores/concubines/chamber ladies/side pieces

>>33382833
The old ass christian bible clearly calls it a marital duty for avoiding sin.
>those people were whores/concubines/chamber ladies/side pieces
Ok so your stupid ass acknowledges these things existed in the distant past but you still tried arguing sex wasn't had for the enjoyment of sex. Religous people were always fake and doing the exact things they judged others for. You're so fucking dumb

>>33381747
>You would've been divorcing and marrying a different bitch every 10 years because she stopped being a tight 19 year old.
Every man would do this if they could.
Love and relationships are a cope for not being able to do this.

>>33382867
where in the bible does it say you should enjoy sex

>>33382882
Where in the bible does it say you can't enjoy sex in marriage you fucking moron? 1 Corinthians 7 clearly talks about it being a marital duty meant to be done frequently specifically to avoid sexual immorality like adultery or the shit you just listed. Dumb bitch

>>33382893
>Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.”
doesn't sound like they're pro-sex. The rest of the passage is how a man should only fuck his wife and vice-versa because it's the best-case scenario of an otherwise terrible thing where SATAN gets involved.

There's definitely no passage there on how to make your wife cum good.

>>33382867
>The old ass christian bible
>>33382893
>1 Corinthians 7
That's the new testament my man

>>33382909
>But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband
Literally the next verse you cherry picking retard. And verse 5
>Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
But dey said enjoying sex bad right? Satan is just any sin or people trying to get you to sin. What fucking verse says you can't enjoy sex in marriage retard? You have nothing

>>33382916
>That's the new testament my man
Which was near 2 thousand years ago. That's beyond old

>>33382939
>What fucking verse says you can't enjoy sex in marriage retard?
doesn't say you should enjoy it, it just says it's a necessary evil because otherwise Satan will tempt you to fuck the neighbor's donkey.

>>33382939
>Satan is just any sin or people trying to get you to sin
Which is why Jesus says get behind me satan to one of his own followers

>>33382952
>>The old ass christian bible
>actually, I mean the new old ass christian bible
well please be clear next time

>>33382962
If you weren't allowed to enjoy sex in marriage it would be mentioned with the other sins you coping fucking idiot. You would be able to easily quote the verse mentioning it instead of trying and failing to add on fanfiction.

>>33382970
Christian is based on christ or the new incarnation of God in the story. Read better next time

>>33382962
>doesn't say you should enjoy it, it just says it's a necessary evil
If it was a sin or "evil" they wouldn't be recommending it to fight off the name for actual evil or wrongdoing in the story. You have the reading comprehension of a down syndrome pirate born on the ship as a slave.

>>33382973
>it would be mentioned with the other sins
It's literally lust, but in a controlled setting. The one quote you did find about marriage has to mention it in the same breath as Satan.

>>33382998
> recommending it to fight off the name for actual evil or wrongdoing in the story
does that sound like positive sexuality to you? "Wife, if you do not perform your martial duties this minute I shall instead rape you and it will be Satan's fault not mine"

good stuff

>>33383040
>about marriage
*about sex in marriage

>>33383040
>The one quote you did find about marriage has to mention it in the same breath as Satan
Yeah you fucking moron it's mentioned specifically to fight Satan or sexual immorality. It's not only not sinning but it's recommended to help avoid actual sinning. Show the quote proving enjoying sex in marriage is bad or shhhhut the fuck up
>does that sound like positive sexuality to you? "Wife, if you do not perform your martial duties this minute I shall instead rape you and it will be Satan's fault not mine"
Where does it say you wouldn't still be blamed for sexual immorality if you did it? Again you're just making shit up instead of showing actual proof to support what you're saying

>>33383040
>"Wife, if you do not perform your martial duties this minute I shall instead rape you and it will be Satan's fault not mine"
Why don't you mention the man being raped when it applies to women too?

>does that sound like positive sexuality to you?
The same poster
>>33382962
>Satan will tempt you to fuck the neighbor's donkey
With no verse to back it up. He's got donkey dick on the brain but he knows all about muh positive sexuality.

>>33383059
>It's not only not sinning but it's recommended to help avoid actual sinning.
You're really not selling it to me. "It's about as fun as praying real hard and only exists to prevent sin"

I'd rather get my dick suck by some agnostic girl

>>33383076
>With no verse to back it up
okay professor, tell us what happens when a christian man has satan overcome his spirit and his body is filled with uncontrollable lust

and also it's the year 2, somewhere in palestine

>>33383085
>and also it's the year 2, somewhere in palestine
or "Israel" if you prefer those pronouns

>>33383078
>It's about as fun as praying real hard and only exists to prevent sin"
None of this was said. You're not really capable of reading well. Maybe fix that
>>33383085
Their God told one of their followers named Peter to "get behind me Satan" because he wanted to get in the way of the mission. Most people weren't fucking donkeys and more likely he'd fuck some whore. Again you're too busy thinking of donkey dick to actually read what you're responding to.

>>33383095
>more likely he'd fuck some whore
Or the wife would fuck some guy

Some faggot on 4chan who's thinking of donkey dick for no reason is here to tell everyone why regular sex in a marriage is actually le bad unhealthy sexuality

>>33383095
>None of this was said
You said that
>Yeah you fucking moron it's mentioned specifically to fight Satan or sexual immorality. It's not only not sinning but it's recommended to help avoid actual sinning.
where's the fun or enjoyment in that?

>Their God told one of their followers named Peter to "get behind me Satan" because he wanted to get in the way of the mission.
don't see what that has to do with this discussion of ours unless Peter was trying to fuck someone

>>33383108
don't be weird you freak

I was thinking of donkey pussy

>>33383113
>where's the fun or enjoyment in that?
How does your body magically become numb to pleasure because you're fucking your spouse instead of some whore or the donkey you mentioned?
>don't see what that has to do with this discussion of ours unless Peter was trying to fuck someone
Because you can't understand anything apparently. You were acting as if the people sinning would be avoiding any responsibility for doing wrong or Satan would be outside of them but the God in this clearly calls one of their own followers Satan for getting in the way of good. Satan clearly isn't just about sexual sin. You really are fucking dumb

>>33383131
>but the God in this clearly calls one of their own followers Satan for getting in the way of good
Specifically doing something wrong or getting in the way of their God's plan. That can apply easily to the planned crucifixion or the planned one man and one woman design from eden.

>>33383131
>How does your body magically become numb to pleasure
when you have to fulfill le marital obligation and don't feel like it
also the main purpose is still just to avoid/fight off sin, it's not pleasure for pleasure's sake, because that would be a sin probably

>>33383230
Even then your body doesn't become numb to pleasure. There's nothing written showing sex in marriage can't be enjoyed or it's le sin. You're just repeating made up bullshit without proof because it's literally all you have.

>>33383230
>>33383239
It's like arguing you can't enjoy eating because it's an obligation for maintaining health. Just stupid shit from stupid ass people

>>33383239
>There's nothing written showing sex in marriage can't be enjoyed or it's le sin.
All it says is that it fights sin

like how toothpaste fights cavities

whoopee

>>33383249
isn't gluttony a sin?

>>33383249
>it's an obligation for maintaining health
You're not legally forced but you are forced to do it and can enjoy eating even basic food. You also have an obligation to take care of your kids and be in their life but that can still be enjoyable too. I'm arguing with the dumbest faggot on this board. I'm wondering if it's just chatgpt slop now

Thread is now
>Christians LOVE to have SEX, actually

lol

lmao even

>>33383279
>All it says is that it fights sin
That's in one chapter. It's like arguing people can't enjoy sex unless you mention every single way they did it like in some erotica.
>like how toothpaste fights cavities
How is having fresh breath and all your teeth intact worse than the opposite again?
>isn't gluttony a sin?
Where does it say you have to eat too much to enjoy food? Fucking retard

>>33383296
>Thread is now Christians LOVE to have SEX, actually
If Christians don't enjoy fucking or they're all celibate why are almost none of them virgins or sleeping with just one person? The thread is your stupid fucking ass pretending people in the past didn't fuck because they enjoyed it and made up some verse about it in the bible to support your retarded argument.

>>33383302
>Where does it say you have to eat too much to enjoy food? Fucking retard
doesn't have to be eating too much it could be eating certain foods or way of preparing foods that are cruel to animals or extremely wasteful or involves child labor

>That's in one chapter. It's like arguing people can't enjoy sex unless you mention every single way they did it like in some erotica.
alright man well show me the chapter in the bible where they tell you how to make your wife cum

>>33383319
>If Christians don't enjoy fucking or they're all celibate why are almost none of them virgins or sleeping with just one person?
because they're scared God (or Satan?) will throw them in a lake of fire in minecraft

>>33383323
>doesn't have to be eating too much
But thats what it means, eating too much to the point of waste or being unhealthy. Post the definition if it's otherwise
>alright man well show me the chapter in the bible where they tell you how to make your wife cum
Show me where it says in detail how to make a man cum. You're fucking retarded

>>33383330
If they were that scared or cared that much they wouldn't have multiple partners when their God was clearly against it. Retard

>>33383339
>Show me where it says in detail how to make a man cum. You're fucking retarded
it doesn't, because sex is at most an afterthought whose only purpose is to defeat the sin of Sex: But More Sex.

>>33383344
They just go "whoops! sorry. how about some of that lordly forgiveness senpai" afterwards and then when they die then they go to heaven anyways

>>33383353
It doesn't because the thing wasn't ritten to arouse you retard
>>33383358
So they don't actually give a shit like I said and clearly enjoy it retard

>>33383353
>>33383368
>It doesn't because the thing wasn't *written to arouse you retard

>>33383368
>It doesn't because the thing wasn't ritten to arouse you retard
so back to what we were saying earlier, nowhere in the bible does it state that sex should be enjoyable. It should be used to fight the greater sin of Sex outside of marriage, or Mouth Sex, or being gay.

kinda like how in some places they set tiny forest fires here and there so that the whole country doesn't flame off overnight.

>>33383383
>nowhere in the bible does it state that sex should be enjoyable
Because they assumed the readers would have more common sense than you obviously do and notice people enjoy sex without having to say it. Again you have zero verses or proof showing enjoying sex in marriage is forbidden because muh bible that people never fully followed anyway.

This whole argument about the bible is about this dumb faggot pretending people in the past didn't enjoy sex for the act itself, even though they themselves bring up the existence of whores back then who people weren't just having kids with. And even if it was written in the book or religion "thou must not enjoy sex with wife" people never fully follow religion. Priests or religious figures of authority fucking kids or married women is nothing new.

>the jewish fantasy book says this
>no you're wrong, it says this other thing
The dumbest argument anyone can have. Why don't you just look what it says?