I decided I want to transition to being a man, but I figured I should have some fun before I take the plunge and I ended up sleeping with a guy I've come to really like after a few weeks. I'm worried he'll be bothered if I try to transition out of nowhere, bc he's one of those macho types that doesn't seem like he'd be okay dating a man.
I'll still have a vagina and everything, so like he doesn't have to take it up the butt or anything if that's what would scare him. How would be the best way to come out to him about this?

>>33381129 (OP)
If not bait, he obviously won’t want to date a man unless he’s gay

>>33381129 (OP)
Being truthful. Say you knew you wanted to transition, but you also wanted to fuck him so you did that before transitioning

>>33381155
Any way I could keep fuckin him after I transition? I know its a long shot but that'd be ideal.

>>33381172
Why would you want to be a man? Best case scenario you look like a twink. Worse case you look like a balding, weak, manlet

>>33381190
Give up, its like asking flat-earther why he thinks earth is flat.

>>33381172
Not realistically, no. I mean there is a non-zero chance that he is bi, but most likely he is straight and won't be interested in you once you transition even if you still have a vagina

>>33381129 (OP)
trust me woman, life as a man is not what you think it is. even if youre a passoid, life as a man is harsh. give it up, you have a good thing going for you right now

>>33381190
I want to get ripped. I want to be a muscly anime twink with abs and get fucked by other muscly anime twinks with abs.
>>33381255
Do you imagine it'd put him off if I just went half way with stuff on transitioning? That way he wouldn't feel gay if he wasn't into that?
>>33381328
I get why you're saying that, like I know guys have it hard with the loneliness thing and all. Guys are so cool though, like I love the macho energy and I want to bro out with a bunch of guys and it's easy to tell guys are dialing stuff back whenever I get involved in stuff as I am now.

>>33381129 (OP)
Dear God, the bait on here gets weaker every day. 0/10, anon. Do better.

>>33381959
You're very optimistic to think this sort of shit is bait instead of the left corrupting our women.

>>33381718
Why didn’t you just say that? Plenty of guys like ripped women. But not actual transition with facial hair or deep voice. You can just take anavar or something

>>33381718
>I get why you're saying that, like I know guys have it hard with the loneliness thing and all. Guys are so cool though, like I love the macho energy and I want to bro out with a bunch of guys and it's easy to tell guys are dialing stuff back whenever I get involved in stuff as I am now.

if that is your intention, PLEASE do not transition. its a huge gamble, chance is it will make it even worse. just assert yourself as a tomboy for all the benefits and none of the downsides. nowadays men are starting to love strong women

>>33381129 (OP)
I won't read frankenstein threads. >>>/lgbt/

>>33382090
Will anavar really let me get as bulk as a dude though? I want my muscles to look defined and sharp. If it does I guess that works but it feels kinda like settling for diet pepsi when you wanted coke.
>>33382101
>nowadays men are starting to love strong women
I might be unreasonable but my personal experience has been they'll give you an inch and if you move past that guys start acting weird. Like guy friends don't cuss around me since we're all from the South and they got told not to cuss around women so they act different when I'm around and it kills the vibe a little. That's just one example, it's more than just changing how they speak when I'm around. It's how they freak out about little stuff like it's a big deal where I'm involved. It's how even though they do it out of courtesy or concern it feels belittling to have them look out for me the way they do. I want to be one of the guys. I want to feel tough and have people respect my preferences better instead of looking at my masculine interests as a novelty. I feel like my height hurts me more than anything but I figure if I can just get some muscle it'll change.

>>33382291
Yes anavar works. Will make you a lot more jacked than the average guy and you can get sharp muscles. It won’t masculize your voice as much.
Also you will never be treated as a man. Sorry to burst your bubble but that will never happen no matter what you do. You’ll just get halfway, you might as well just max out being a tomboy and get jacked. But expecting to be treated as an actual man is absolute delusion 0% chance. Do you see a mtf and see him completely as a woman? Fuck no

Imagine how mentally fucked a woman has to be to want to live as a weird hairier manlet with no dick

>Hi, my name is Zippertits Thightube, I'm a 5'2" "man" and I will always have a woman's eyes and a female skeleton no matter what I do to my body.

>>33382312
Something about hearing I'll never have a shot no matter what just gets me mad, like I just take a step back and look at my life and I go "why bother" and just spend the day in bed looking at my phone.

I've had the talk before, how people will be able to tell I wasn't born a guy if I transition. It's like an invasive thought though, it keeps coming back even if I try to push it out of my head. I feel like the only kind of way to get peace with all my feelings is doing it since I've felt this way most my life and I'm 20 so like if it were going to go away it would have by now.
>>33382376
I like guys. I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to be a guy.
>>33383307
People won't be able to see my skeleton though and I could wear sunglasses to cover up my eyes.

>>33381172
Look, you never know until you ask. There are masculine men that are gay, and some that would never consider themselves gay as long as you have a vagina. You never know until you ask. For the record, I have fucked another man in the ass just to see if I liked it. I only enjoyed causing discomfort and pain, but nothing other than that.

>>33382291
bro what
are the only men you hang around teenagers?
literally every guy i know grew out of that shit
if u dont mind ageing like a guy and have hella financial security and are okay with regretting transitioning later then go for it i guess but it kinda just sounds like you hang with only immature guys and thats much easier to fix than committing to something that moght not even work (i know many FTMs who never ended up passing)

also if youve never tried just telling ur guy friends "hey mentally im a guy and i wanna be treated as one" u should, it often works

>>33384905
>like if it were going to go away it would have by now
why tf would u assume that
20 is so young
i was like 23 when i desisted
man no wonder u think the way u do about guys

Why can't you just be tomboyish instead of, "transitioning" like a gay communist reddit moderation polycule? No men worth fucking are going to be interested in a tran. They're just gonna view you as a weird gay fetish or a pointless ugly faggot. Have some self-respect and stay the fuck away from the trans stuff. You can be a boyish straight girl, that's fine, but trooning out is only going to make your life shittier than it probably already is. And yeah, if that guy isn't a sad faggot he's going to dump you. You don't want to be a sad unfuckable faggot that can't even fuck other fags because she has a pussy. Nobody is into that.

>>33385017
reppers are so sad :(
jesus loves u anon
live ur best life!! dont be afraid of being cringe
im sending good vibes ur way~ hold on buddy

>>33381129 (OP)
its amazing how consistent ftm blorbos are

>>33384905
>People won't be able to see my skeleton though and I could wear sunglasses to cover up my eyes.
People see your skeleton every time they look at you. It's what your skin is wrapped around. Your frame is female for the rest of your life. I swear, trannies come up with the most bullshit excuses for what they'll do to pursue trannyism every time they're confronted. "Nuh-uh" is the default answer. It doesn't matter how many flaming hoops you have to jump through or how many miles of broken glass you have to crawl through, you're so ready and willing to do it, all to be a poor imitation of what you think will make you happy.

>>33381718
>I want to get ripped. I want to be a muscly anime twink with abs and get fucked by other muscly anime twinks with abs.
You can do that without trooning out.

>>33381129 (OP)
>I decided I want to transition to being a man, but I figured I should have some fun before I take the plunge and I ended up sleeping with a guy I've come to really like after a few weeks.
>>33381718
>I want to get ripped. I want to be a muscly anime twink with abs and get fucked by other muscly anime twinks with abs.
This has got to be bait.
This is why the 19th was a mistake.
You dumb nigger, varbie up and you'll get that as well as plenty of degenerates of whichever type you want to fuck you.
Unless you have gender dysphoria, this is literal retard thinking, that will both fuck you up (much more than varbieing up) and also help fuck shit up even more for the actual gender cripples.

Oh wait this is bait. Got me.

>>33382215
/thread

>>33384925
Guess I'll ask, feels like I'm dropping a bombshell though. Just gonna head to his place and vibe in his bed working out how to pitch the whole situation to him till he gets home.
>>33384983
>also if youve never tried just telling ur guy friends "hey mentally im a guy and i wanna be treated as one" u should, it often works
Idk if they are in far right stuff or if 'normal' guys just don't go for it, but I've said virtually the same to these guys before and they sort of acknowledged it but never changed & it felt like they thought it was a joke. I haven't brought it up again like that after the first reaction, I try to be thick skinned but it felt so dismissive I just can't deal with it a 2nd time.
>>33385101
But my skeleton might not be apparent with the way my meat rests on my bones? I get what you're saying, tho. I just huff hopium about my transition but realistically I know I'm 4'11" and probably not going to pass if I trans.

>>33385124
Varbie?

>>33384905
You’re clearly autistic, genuinely. That kind of irrational fear of not being able to be something else is putting you in this constant fear loop. Relax and zoom out, you live in reality not your weird fantasy. You like fucking men, you realistically like being a woman, just stop being so mentally ill. If you actually were so much like a man you had to transition you’d already look and act more like one. Just be a tomboy and they jacked instead of a mentally ill troon

Look if this is a phase it's a phase but please don't ruin this guy's life by repping for another decade and THEN surprising him with it after he's genuinely in love with you. Because that happened to me and I'm still dealing with constant suicidal ideation years later. Imagine someone telling you for years they want to have kids with you and then 180ing and saying they can't because they won't feel true to themselves if they do.

Anyway. This shit is why I can't trust tomboys anymore even though I love them.

>>33385815
Like, "stop being afraid" I get. There wouldn't be a problem if I just pushed all that out of my head. But I can't, or I already would have. The only time I haven't had these kinds of thoughts bristling through my mind on some level were when I was high on a weed gummy. I have a pack hidden in my nightstand, I take one once in a while to chill, but I couldn't just do drugs constantly about my problems.
>>33385851
I felt guilty by proxy reading this, I'm sorry it happened to you. If I could just be a tomboy I'd be happy since people are pretty mean to trans people, but I haven't been able to feel good about being a tomboy the way I feel good about hypothetically being a guy.

I got this video game where people roleplay fantasy characters with each other. I might make like some knightly hero dude and see if venting the feelings in pretend makes them go away, but I'm not super hopeful that the results will be what I'm after.

>>33387338
You feel this way because you haven't had a strong male presence in your life and a woman has an instinct to seek control from masculinity. Because your father, brother, etc were not present enough in your youth you began to crave a masculine presence that you began to cultivate in yourself. All for nothing. When you give yourself to your future husband, accepting him as the head of your household and your place as his helpmeet, these feelings will fade.

>>33381172
Just don't transition you fucking retard. You'll still be a woman but without all the perks of being a woman.

>>33388095
No, no. Turning herself into a 4'11" manlet is going to make her life so much better

>>33381129 (OP)
haha I have nothing to say to your type. I'm fully aware you're immune to good advice. Have fun.

>>33381129 (OP)
Google Norah Vincent

It's so over for Gen Z, kek.

you will never become a man, you will never experience anything relating other than your natural born gender. you are a fucking gooner who watches porn and doesn't live in reality. even when typing this I know you aren't gonna change, you will stay the same, so when you are in your shitty apartment alone, forgotten, unloved by yourself and the world as time destroys you because your body wasn't made for the cancer chemicals you inject. you did this to yourself. so die you larping fuck

>>33381718
Aspiring pooner....wants to be a twink... who's gonna tell him roflmao

>>33381129 (OP)
You can't change your sex.

>>33388519
Projection is one hell of a drug

>>33381129 (OP)
i know a pooner who was a slut like you and let me tell you it is not worth it. happy is not the word i would used to describe them.

>>33388095
What are the perks of being a woman?

>>33389323
Never having to be responsible or accountable for anything, getting paid for doing nothing, never having to worry about your country sending you to die in a war, knowing that you can get a free meal and sex any time you want, and knowing that you can either slaughter any resulting child from your free sex with no consequence, or further drain the father of his money for two decades.

>>33389534
don't forget just being able to hop from relationship to relationship and being the gender of support (even if it includes a lot of fake compliments), so you're not left to sink or swim as much as your muh oppressor counterpart
it's basically a coddled child existence if you're sufficiently normie, which has its downsides and upsides

>>33389534
Ok but all those "perks" are only good if I'm kind of a bad person? Like I want to do meaningful help and have responsibility. I don't want to kill babies or take some guy's money. I don't want to go to war, but I doubt anyone does and I'd be willing to go to help the people I care about.
>>33389930
I don't want to be a coddled child. I want to be strong and tough and cool and do stuff that matters and make life easier for the people who matter to me. I get that some people treat guys like oppressors but I read a lot about the male loneliness stuff and I try to be as good of a bro as I can be for all the men in my life.

>>33381129 (OP)
Just be a tomboy slash masculine woman why do you need to trooon over it fuck sake is it that hard to just be semi normal?

>>33389025
I'm not really a slut like I sucked some dicks a few times but I haven't done vaginal with anybody but this guy I'm with rn.
>>33391870
I mean I'd like it if I could be happy with just running a masc aesthetic as a tomboy, but it just hasn't made the feelings stop so far. I need something more so I'm looking at transitioning. I wouldn't be trans if being normal worked for me.

I won't read demon possession threads.

>>33392275
Not even to help the possessed?

>>33392275
>>33392473
Guys picture this. I don't transition. I settle down with this guy, we live the storybook life with a house and a kid maybe two. But I still have these feelings there the same as I do here and now.
That's a lot worse than just transitioning now, before I break up a family over it. Even if it would be kind of nice to have a family with him. It's not demonic, it's just being real.

>>33392589
But here's the thing, your feelings don't change anything. You're never going to be what you want to be. You're never going to be an actual man, you're never going to pass as a man, you're never going to have the experiences that a man has, and everyone around you will just be humoring your delusions.
>That's a lot worse than just transitioning now, before I break up a family over it.
And that's the problem with transgenderism, it always, always comes to that. Being trans matters to you more than anything and everything else. There's nothing you won't sacrifice on the altar of being trans. Because you just said yourself, even if you do get to live the perfect, storybook life, the lives of your husband and children will always be second place because you can't help but want to embrace mental illness.

>>33392631
I would want to be there for them, and like if I could both be trans and be there for them I would, but like how am I supposed to ignore a constant internal sense of wrongness indefinitely? I would go nuts. I feel like being crazy from that would do more damage to the family than just transitioning would.

>>33381129 (OP)
>I decided I want to transition to being a man

good luck being treated like a 2nd class citizen.

Daily reminder that transgenderism is a logical impossibility, because you cannot know what it "feels" like to be the other gender, unless you actually were the other gender.

Transgenderism is nothing more than wishing you were the other gender.

>>33392791
>I would go nuts.
You're already there.

>>33392589
>It's better if i permanently mutilate myself now because I'm severely mentally ill
You're a fucking idiot
>>33392791
Just skip to the end of where this leads and kys retard

>>33381718
You can get ripped without fucking hormones and surgery, retard

>>33393562
>>33393553
>>33393441
I feel like you guys are just committed against transitioning. I already said I would be happy ditching transition plans if I could get rid of the invasive thoughts about it.

If there are any suggestions about that other than you guys telling me to kys, I'd listen.
I don't want to be weird. I just want to feel ok in my own skin and I don't know any other way. I've been trying but it just doesn't work.

>>33394461
>I already said I would be happy ditching transition plans if I could get rid of the invasive thoughts about it.

How are the invasive thoughts getting in? Is your TikTok algorithm spewing trans shit into your feed on a daily basis? Instagram? Twitter? Tumblr?

Unplug that shit, go touch grass, read a book, do some watercolors, see if the invasive thoughts come back.

>>33381718
>I want to get ripped. I want to be a muscly anime twink with abs and get fucked by other muscly anime twinks with abs.
That's very based but have you considered you can just be a tomboy? you don't have to chop your tits off. This is why I hate gender ideology, it enforces the very same 'gender stereotypes' leftists claim to be against
>>33382291
>Will anavar really let me get as bulk as a dude though?
if your goal is twinkmode you probably won't need roids, just creatine and protein powder, but ask >>>/fit/
depending on how leftist your government is you could get test and just not follow through with all the other bullshit, but it'll probably make you infertile
>I might be unreasonable but my personal experience has been they'll give you an inch and if you move past that guys start acting weird. Like guy friends don't cuss around me since we're all from the South and they got told not to cuss around women so they act different when I'm around
We know women get offended more easily, and if that happens there are not only social consequences but the possibility of false sexual assault allegations. I don't want to speak for anyone else, but you just need to show you're not going to be offended by banter or "inappropriate" comments like racist jokes or sexual innuendos

t. bisexual twink (why would i limit myself to only half the population?)

>>33381718
Dumb motherfucking fujoshi
Holy fuck you are a dumb bitch
The reason why you think gay muscular shit is hot is because you are a woman
Fucking hell

>>33394622 here
>tfw no tomboy gf and twink bf to go gym with me
>>33385797
>i'm 4'11
yeah definitely do not troon out especially considering >>33392801 is doubly correct in the case of short men
>>33393441
>>33394625
you sound like ugly fat losers

>>33381129 (OP)
No one who loves a woman is comfortable with watching her transition into a man.
He likes you for who you are right now.
If he liked men he'd be with a man.

>>33394461
>I just want to feel ok in my own skin and I don't know any other way.
Trooning out isn't going to give you that. You've already said you're what, 4'11"? Do you realize that no normal man is going to look like you after you go through with it? No man is going to have your stature unless some horrific developmental error occurred. Even if you butch yourself up, you'll be fucking manlet and people will think you were born prematurely or some shit.

Cutting off your tits and getting your meat tube sewed on isn't going to make you feel better. Going to get hormone shots for the rest of your life to keep up the charade isn't going to make you feel comfortable as a "man" because no other man you know will have to do that to be one. Frankensteining yourself physically isn't going to fix what's wrong mentally.

Have you even considered the possibility that going through the whole tranny process and doing irreversible damage to your body might not make you feel better, and could possibly even make you feel worse than you do now in ways that you can't ever fix? As others have said,
you are not going to get what you want. Abandon this idea.

>>33394643
LOOOOOOOL
I am that ripped gymbro you fantasize about you pervert filth.
All the men that want to fuck a woman who undergone viralization are ugly weirdos. Get your head out of your seme uke fucking manga and learn to appreciate that someone likes you the way you are, spoilers, not a lot of people have that.

But nah, don't listen to me, I must be some fat cunt. Go ahead and mutilate your body and kill yourself by 30

>>33394669
>Get your head out of your seme uke fucking manga
the narusasu doujins from 2007

>>33394669
>he thinks he's replying to OP
lmao