Something I’ve noticed is that women seem to want guys to do all the work. Even the ones that try to get my attention eventually want me to initiate every time. I always second guess whether or not they like me or I’m bothering them. Is it just something I have to get used to?

yes they are
>second guess whether I’m bothering them
the key is letting go of this fear. once you quit giving a fuck, anything becomes possible

see also
>I'm afraid I'll be labeled as a creep
loser posts, there are 20 a day on adv

>>33399837 (OP)
Yes. It's more or less in their nature to give the signals that suggest for men to approach them. Don't expect them to ever lead, regardless of how much you think they like you. Just get good at recognizing the signals and you'll be fine.

Only time a woman has 'lead' is when I was closing at work, she was drinking on the job and she straight up said "I'm horny.." when I was mopping. Lol

>>33399837 (OP)
You have the penetrating tool. You have the seed to inject. You have the stronger body. You are designed to hunt, she is designed to be hunted. Yes, women are generally more passive. It's like this for basically all animals. Look at the act itself - the male gets on top and penetrates the female. Our mentalities and dynamics reflect that.

>>33399837 (OP)
Yes. But also, imagine how cringe it is to be them and have people with 60-100lbs on you scared to even say hello

>>33399837 (OP)
Not true, in the last year I've dated maybe 12 girls had 3 of them offer to cook for me and suck my dick without asking

They're rare, but girls who make an effort actually DO exist. The ones who give mixed signals and make no effort just don't like us that much. Sadly they're the vast majority.

Of course we need to initiate at first most of the time, but it should be reciprocal after the first date or two, otherwise just pull back to signal you won't pick up the slack. They'll make an effort and text you if they give a shit. If they don't, then it's no major loss in the long-term

>>33400093
"Dated" 12 in a year? The fuck nigga

>>33400097
Yeah, as in went on one or more dates with 12 girls. I slept with 6 of them. I really liked 3 (who ended it with me) and 3 really liked me (I ended it with them) and the rest were just meh, never really got anywhere or neither of us felt any real chemistry.

Can't wait to meet my next gf and leave all this shit behind. Dating is grim

Passivity is a bad trait in both sexes. Men need to be more proactive and women have to stop being indecisive.

>>33399837 (OP)
Women do not flirt, they try to signal that they are open to being flirted with, which for some reason they think is the same thing, and for some reason the ways they convey "I would like to be flirted with" and "I am simply being a pleasant person" are the same actions

Women get upset when they hear this and then I ask them how they flirt and they say things like
>talk to him
>ask him about his day
>ask if he's doing anything interesting later, then act as if I want to do that too
>talk about his interests
Then later when they've forgotten that conversation I ask women how they act/behave when they're talking to a man politely without sexual interest or intent and they say
>talk to him
>ask him about his day
>ask if he's doing anything interesting later, then act as if I want to do that too (but this time in an abstract wishful sense)
>talk about his interests
>share my interests
It's fucking maddening. You just have to guess. You just have to totally fucking guess almost every time, and a good proportion of the time you're going to be wrong.
>how dare you think I wanted to suck your dick! I was simply making conversation about something you enjoyed!
>why didn't you get the hint? I acted like I was interested in something you enjoyed!
This is women "flirting"

>>33399837 (OP)
You're mid at best and you lack rizz, I've had loads of girls Initiate Le Approach and flirt with me while I barely acknowledged their presence.

Works on my machine.

>>33399837 (OP)
>Are woman just passive by nature
Yes. How old are you that you don't know this?

>>33399937
Did you go for it?

>>33399937
Not during that night, but months later when we met up again and wasn't boozing. I'd rather not have sex with a semi buzzed coworker, the allegations that might come from that could get real messy, and without proof I can't even defend myself.

Unfortunately she's quite the drinker and druggie, so I cut it off. Great body with mid face.

>>33403222
Ffs I replied to myself. My reply is above.

>>33399837 (OP)
Wait until you find out that women are submissive during sex.