So, people recognize me as a smart guy. I've managed to go from poverty to having a decent, well paid technical job, even though I dropped out of college, so I guess I could say it with property: I'm a smart person.

Many times in my life I've told people I love (mom, ex gf) to do this or that, for their own good, but without explaining the logic behind my advices. A few times they did take my advice, but most of the time they didn't, especially advice regarding money (or saving it). I feel like women (at least) don't give a shit about prioritizing.

Here comes the problem: most of the time I'm right about things I suggest, but whenever I confirm that I was correct, I feel mad because my advice wasn't taken, but I'm also left with the feeling that, maybe, I should have convinced the other person and should have explained the logic behind my advice. Whenever this thought comes, I think that, on the other hand, these I people I love should and could have trusted me, but didn't. Why the fuck should I waste time on lengthy explanations to them if they didn't ask me to explain or didn't give a shit about my advice in the first place? Why should I waste time explaining things that I learned either from experience or by putting effort and following long processes of educating myself? Do I need to CONVINCE people to follow my advice for their own good? If I fuck up and my advice turns out to be mistaken, I most probably *will* be made responsible for that, so why should I put effort on that?

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>>33407248 (OP)
How the fuck do you expect people to just take your advice at face value? Of course you need to explain the logic behind whatever advice you have. Use that, make it relatable, use examples. Otherwise you're just making a whiny hissyfit here over a problem you created yourself. Why would someone just blindly follow your advice? Do you have authority or some kind of credentials that allot you that kind of trust? Especially regarding financial shit. Jesus.

>>33407271
Because things are hard to explain to people that doesn't have basic knowledge of, say, interest rates and exponentials when you want to make them understand that credit cards, loans, etc. can be good or terrible? Or that by saving a few dollars each time you buy an item (or maybe avoid buying useless crap), you can actually save a good % of your wage?
This shit isn't rocket science, you could avoid credit cards and make an habit of memorizing or at least using websites to compare prices before buying anything to save money, yet I'd somehow have to explain in detail why these things are good fucking ideas.
Those are 2 examples of a long list of suggestions I've given. Other things aren't as clear cut, and the long term benefits are even more difficult (and sometimes unpredictable) to explain. Again, if I give advice or do something, I become responsible for its consequences (I've learned by being "the computer guy" and fucking up sometimes, and so people blamed me for something completely unrelated). What's the point of explaining shit or convincing people of doing things for their own good? I'd rather do things myself if I need to.

>>33407311
When you give advice at all, you are usually considered at least tangentially responsible. The person would not have X outcome, good or bad, if that advice weren't taken.
Why would you avoid credit cards when credit under several conditions is required for any loans for large purchases? Comparing prices is an excellent idea, and there's zero reason why that would be difficult to explain or for them to understand. And usually people aren't making retarded decisions regarding small purchases as some kind of nefarious act to fuck themselves. It's because they had a small desire here, a thing that popped up that required money there, an ingredient they ran out of, anything.
Anything unpredictable is best left as just presenting it as a thing they could try, but with the express statement that it could go either way on results.

>>33407248 (OP)
>Do I really need to convince people and to explain things?
No. My advice is not to offer unsolicited advice. And if anyone asks you personal questions that would require more that a few word answer, you ain't gotta tell 'em shit. In fact, I will sometimes say out loud "I don't care to explain myself"

>>33407339
>Why would you avoid credit cards when credit under several conditions is required for any loans for large purchases?
Because they don't need to make large purchases and don't know how to use a fucking credit card for their benefit instead of paying interests over and over again?

>there's zero reason why that would be difficult to explain or for them to understand
That was just an example.

But here's another side for the discussion: what if I make them miserable just by giving them advice that might be good for one thing (say, saving money) but terrible in terms of happiness? Check pic related as a great example of this.

>>33407341
>No. My advice is not to offer unsolicited advice
I didn't ask for your advice, though?

J/k. I get you, but these aren't random people. I want the best for them (but read my rant above). How the fuck am I supposed to ignore the temptation of helping them improve their lives?

>>33407248 (OP)
If you were so intelligent you would realize that advice is often not taken. Manage your codependent tendencies and needs to control others, thats my advice.

>>33407406
>advice is often not taken.
Of course. But then, what am I supposed when they come crying about being the victim of the whole society and shit? I want to protect them, yet they are like retards. How do I deal with this dissonance?

>Manage your codependent tendencies and needs to control others, thats my advice.
How?

>>33407311
>What's the point of explaining shit or convincing people of doing things for their own good?
There is none. Only do it when it would also benefit you. You are finding out the hard way why it's not good for everyone to know you're smart.

>>33407421
>what am I supposed
*to do

>>33407421
>they are like retards
*act like retards

Fuck, I'm sleepy

>>33407459
I know, but I still feel the desire to help people, esp the ones I love.

>>33407481
You have to realize that some people just don't want to be helped. You need to look at the cost/reward of helping people that want to be left alone. The cost is your time, effort, and most importantly, your spiritual health, and the reward is... what exactly?
I'm in the camp that if you try to help people who aren't interested, it will chip away at your heart. You can still offer your help here and there, but let them say no before you infodump on them.

>>33407248 (OP)
OP here. actually, it's not only about advice, it's about... everything. about the way I live and do things. the things I say. I sometimes feel like people around me think I'm threatening them, while, for example, I'm telling them that I don't want to be constrained by their bullshit.
I gotta admit, I'm an aggressive guy in general, but why wouldn't I be? I've had a shitty life, people (even my own mom) have tried to steal from me and stab me in the back, ever since I was a kid. I had to work during summers and pay for my own shit since I was about 12. I've met all kinds of would-be criminals. how the fuck am I supposed to do things?