i like the idea of having a bf but then i remember every man is only driven by the desire to get pussy.

even if we go on a cute date or cuddling in bed or playing a video game together, he will always expect sex at the end of it. it makes me feel like a prostitute.

i always get the “i have something to tell you…” text from 99% of the guy friends or acquaintances i’ve had. i just block them and cut things off irl because my brain just switches off from seeing them as human.

it’s hard for me to imagine them as anything other than rapists and perverts waiting for the right moment.

am i asexual or just gay?

>>33408834 (OP)
I never expected sex or did an activity because I knew I would be rewarded with sex. If you view your pussy as something to use as a reward rather than something you use to erotically bond with someone yes, you are probably abnormal or have autism, or likely just a sheltered individual with strange and poorly developed views about people and the world. You have a reductive cause and effect view of men and sex. Most men are lonely and wanting to connect emotionally and think of sex as the physical manifestation of that bond. If anything you seem to have the mechanical and vulgar view of it.

>>33408834 (OP)
You're not asexual or gay. You're just someone who wants to be emotionally regarded and valued first before sex. That is normal. What you should do is use that as your means to find a strong and kind man who respects you. It means accepting that some men are only out for your vagina, and those that are should be rejected and avoided. That's how you be a woman of your worth.

As for sex, sex is good. It's an act of love at its core. The problem is some people treat it as an act of self-satisfaction, only looking for their own pleasure instead of using it as a reciprocal way to please the person they love just as their loved one pleases in return.

All of human existence owes itself to sex. Without sex, you and I would not exist. It's a gift to be shared with someone you trust and who trusts you. There is no shame in wanting sex with someone you love. There is shame in wanting it from someone you couldn't give a rat's ass about deep down.

So just make sure the man cares for you. Ideally, wait until marriage or at least a solid long term commitment. Let the love form first. Love takes several months to develop. Infatuation takes minutes. Many girls fall for infatuation and give themselves away in minutes. Don't be that girl.

Know the difference between modern 'sex' Vs love making. Love making is slow, peaceful, gentle, bonding. Don't allow the ways of this world to rob you of that sacred experience with a strong and caring man.

>>33408834 (OP)
You sound traumatized

>>33408834 (OP)
I think you should find a mid beta-male guy to use as a practice bf until you realize that sex is actually fun

Sex is not merely a hedonistic act where you use a woman. Some men might treat it that way, but a good man has sex as an expression of intimacy.

My advice is just tell men you won't be having sex right away and feel things out to see if said man genuinely values his bond with you.

>>33408852
>I never expected sex or did an activity because I knew I would be rewarded with sex
what do you expect after you pay for the first date?

>Most men are lonely and wanting to connect emotionally
sorry but i kinda find that a little hard to believe. if they’re lonely, they can find other male friends. but the majority of them run to dating apps to get their dick wet. the ‘loneliness epidemic’ is just a HORNY epidemic because tinder and bumble or whatever has normalised casual every-day prostitution.

>>33408861
i’ve never been raped or molested

>>33408866
>>33408871
i want to wait until after marriage but i don’t think many guys would be okay with that. i would be afraid they would be seeing other women in secret to control their urges

>>33408873
>what do you expect after you pay for the first date?
Nta but that's a depressing question to ask. Did it not occur to you that there are those who don't expect anything after paying for a date? That they chose the date because they also enjoyed the date with you? And that seeing you enjoy yourself was repayment enough, because it pleased them to know you had a good time?

>>33408878
Trauma isn't that simple , it can be inherited
Installed into your system sideways without you noticing,
Misunderstanding how it even got their or why

>>33408834 (OP)
A lot of women rather enjoy sex, too

>>33408879
>i want to wait until after marriage
Where did you get that idea?
Do you think that marriage is the only way to have a good life? Do you think its the only way to start a family?

>>33408887
Not OP but this is true. A girl doesn't need roses or molested to hate male lust. She just needs to have one bad ex boyfriend, or, a cheating father, or a dad who she caught looking at porn instead of emotionally attending to mother.

>>33408873
>what do you expect after you pay for the first date
Literally nothing. I dont expect anything just because I pay. I have no problem and dont regard it as wasting money if the date goes nowhere. Mainly because I am very picky and most women won't meet my standards for what I look for so I don't hold it against them that they arent what I want.

>sorry but i kinda find that a little hard to believe. if they’re lonely, they can find other male friends. but the majority of them run to dating apps to get their dick wet. the ‘loneliness epidemic’ is just a HORNY epidemic because tinder and bumble or whatever has normalised casual every-day prostitution.
The fact you think male friendship is a substitute for companionship with a woman and the real way men emotionally bond tells me just how callow and sheltered you are. You dont understand men at all, no wonder youre an underfucked femcel. You live in a delusion of internet memes.

>>33408890
>Do you think its the only way to start a family?

It's the best way to start one. Not the only way, but definitely the most psychological and sociological secure way to start a family. Children out of wedlock usually end up in some pretty dark places. The patterns and studies for this are well documented

>>33408892
I will never understand the existentialism of female demands and I'm not sure I want to. It all seems so corrupt. An overreaction and over-complication, something that they are told they need to do

>>33408890
no but it’s a better way to gauge commitment. if i tell a guy who’s only interested in getting sex as fast as possible that i want to wait until marriage, he will stop talking to be (a good thing btw).

>>33408834 (OP)
Well, thats true to some degree, especially for men from third world shitholes. But not every men is like that. I guess it depends where you look for a partner. If you go to clubs and bars, of course you will find only thugs and low IQ cards who will think with their dick instead their brain. Kek.

>>33408896
>>33408899
Why do you expect a man to want to engage in the institution of marriage? All the benefit towards men has been systematically scraped out of it.
Only low IQ males who can't asses cost-benefit will engage anymore

>>33408895
>companionship with a woman
code word for pussy btw

>>33408904
because it’s a good deterrent for dick-brains

>"Waiting until marriage"
makes sense in the context of when youre 18 and youre Dad tells you that he found you a wife and youre getting married next week and the concept of divorce is widely considered to only be entertained by people who spend eternity in Hell

>>33408873
>what do you expect after you pay for the first date?
look babe, don't get it twisted we're splitting the check

It's actually absurd that a woman should think she deserves a place at the helm of my empire without ever seeing me as a primarily sexual being, frankly it's a complete and utter insult. You deserve a dumber. weaker man

>>33408897
>Something they are told they need to do.
No one tells women to do anything. Neither does anyone in particular tell men what to do. Yes societal pressures exist, but only idiots are vulnerable to those to the point their choice and free will gets eroded. Y'know, the not-so-smart types.

Even the wise and smart though, they eventually find out that it's in their best interest to find a mate. No human tells them this. Death itself does, when the reaper himself holds up the heads of their own parents after they grew old and died.

Then it sinks in, your family home has perished. You are now an orphan. And at that point, every fibre of your being will fight to create a new family for your own sanity's sake.

That's just being human. And even the most aloof or dissociated people, the most autistic hermit out there understands this. They don't get to avoid it either.

>>33408907
>code word for pussy btw
Bad faith OP. Blocking this thread

>>33408899
>>33408896
This.
Society is fucked.
Nowadays people have sex, then start to get to know each other, then break up, because they discover that they are not compatible. It's the exact opposite of what should be practiced (and also should be common sense):
First meet, get to know each other, get intimate/personal (intimate =/= sex btw), if thinks work out well then marry/have sex.
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that sex is the most intimate and vulnerable activity that you should only engage with a loving partner, not with some random retards.

>>33408915
what empire

>>33408904
That's why you chose your partner instead having casual hookups and expecting someone to respect you in a long term, retard. This applies to both whores and manwhores.

>>33408917
>That's just being human. And even the most aloof or dissociated people, the most autistic hermit out there understands this. They don't get to avoid it either.
Those that can't grasp the true nature of infinity you mean
>>33408924
The one that has been planted in fertile soil and waits only for spring rain of eternity to come into fruition

>>33408915
>>33408924
>What empire
The 4 walls below his mom's living room aka his basement.

>>33408921
when i told my coworkers i don’t want to have sex with strangers, literally all of them were shocked and tried to convince me to download tinder. i’ve never used dating apps and i never will, literally the lowest scumbag method of trying to find a partner. it’s basically an escort app marketed as ‘dating’.

>>33408930
>Those that can't grasp the true nature of infinity you mean
Yes like you, like me, like anyone. Unless I'm replying to God right now. Otherwise, you will die too. Same as me.

>>33408926
>chose your partner
Yeah I'll just go to the partner store and read all of their traits off their placard which is totally true not at all a fabrication designed to ensnare my interest

>>33408930
>The one that has been planted in fertile soil and waits only for spring rain of eternity to come into fruition
fertile soil = anime body pillow
spring rain = cum

>>33408936
We are all seeped in infinity you fool
Creating offspring is the most base and primitive way to engage with it

>>33408934
Your coworkers are psychopath inheritors, ignore them. Theyre not psychopaths but they are influenced by psychopathic culture.

Psychopathy by definition is to use another human for short term goals or pleasures. That's how it's understood. Whenever you meet someone who boasts, glorifies, or recommends using other humans for self gain, cut them out like a cancer.

>>33408938
Close but the soil is inspiration and the spring rain is time

>>33408941
>Engage with it
Has a name, His name is God. But you are right, having a child is the most God-like thing a human can do, co-creating life itself with God. Very based. I'm simply saying you and I are not eternal.

>>33408934
We live in clown world, what can I say? Lmao
The majority of humans is stupid and are easily manipulated. Don't listen to people, who do mistakes and are proud of it.

>>33408949
You are only able to see one face of the prism
Sad

>>33408954
Alright. Just don't fly too close to the sun there Icarus, I heard it's a nasty fall. Don't as above so below your head off with all that enlightenment you got.

>>33408961
I think I'll manage, thank you for your concenr

>>33408855
how do you actually find someone like that? i know the internet is last place i should look. a lot of my interests have coomer fans so i’m a bit sceptical to engage in those spaces openly

>>33408855
Basically this.
/Thread

>>33408834 (OP)
>am i asexual or just gay?
Mentally ill and/or traumatized

>>33408992
>how do you actually find someone like that? i know the internet is last place i should look. a lot of my interests have coomer fans so i’m a bit sceptical to engage in those spaces openly

By looking for someone like that. That means don't select among places where your interests attract 'coomer fans'. Develop functional and healthy hobbies or interests and then select from those circles.

>>33409001
>Develop functional and healthy hobbies or interests
any examples? i guess the most ‘healthy’ hobbies i have are reading and painting.

>>33408855
You're an idiot.
This is stellar advice but for a slut or a healthy minded female living in a post sexual revolution world. Not for a sexually repressed femcel like her, I mean look at her posts
>>33408992
>coomer fans

You just gave her a logically sounding copout to never address her issues in the first place.
I can already see the mines those dudes will have to walk around when things get anywhere close to sexual that will trigger her projections.

I feel really resentful about this modern meme of male sexuality.
I hate the hollywood motherfuckers who took the opportunity when feminism and pill appeared, to cement those ideas about man in western culture because they wanted to fuck a bunch of teenagers, and I hate feminist theory crazies who wrote libraries full of books about male nature from the female POV.

>>33409001
>Develop functional and healthy hobbies or interests
>>33408834 (OP)
Listen here OP, there will be no attraction to you without sexual attraction from any male you meet. These things are inseparable. The most prominent fringe expression of that mechanism would be finding an ugly girl super hot after getting to know her better due to her personality, but that would still be manifested and expressed sexually and centred around the physical.

There is no way to circumvent this, any man not interested in you sexually but only emotionally is going to be either mentally ill or a liar.

also
>asexual
Figure out what is the one thing every asexual person have in common beside inability to feel sexual attraction to the opposite sex and you will realize what really hides behind the asexual label.

t. I thought I was asexual for most of my teenage years and my early 20's.

>>33408934
The fact that it was all of your coworkers doesn't mean they're a good representative example of everyone. What kind of job do you work? Usually jobs tend to gather like-minded people, partially due to the nature of the job and partially due to hiring manager preferences.

>>33408873
>sorry but i kinda find that a little hard to believe. if they’re lonely, they can find other male friends. but the majority of them run to dating apps to get their dick wet.
In my experience as a girl, women offer an emotional connection to their friends, male or female, that other men are closed off from giving. I'd imagine that Anon was referring to this line of yours:
>i always get the “i have something to tell you…” text from 99% of the guy friends or acquaintances i’ve had.

These guys aren't doing this solely because they want to fuck you. They're doing it because you treat them nicely and that is so foreign to them that they become emotionally attached. I think it's sad and frustrating and I often have to cut them off too. But I'm not cutting them off because they're predators. I often cut them off because sometimes they become clingy and obsessed, convincing themselves that we're in love.

>>33408992
Which interests are those?

>>33409014
I was going to suggest pursuing something creative or athletic, so a painting class/club might be a good idea.

>>33408834 (OP)
>Every man
>Is only driven by
Well, there's a problem. You're only seeing male attraction from only a singular perspective. Yes, overall men have a problem with only thinking with their dicks, but that's not always the case, especially as they age out of their teenage years. As a man gets more emotionally mature he starts to realize that sex isn't everything in life and that there's plenty of other valid reasons to desire intimate companionship too. Women get a head start on this type of thinking, but guys get culturally bombarded with messages telling them the opposite and it can take them years to undo that messaging. Just assuming he's only in it for the sex might be true for an unfortunate percentage of men, but, crucially, only some of them. There are many men out there who want more out of a relationship than sex. Categorically denying men might help you be more safe, but it also shuts down the other possibility of a relationship based off of genuine connections forming. It's easy to shut down everything. It's hard to open up. That's a tough dilemma to deal with, but it needs to be developed to work past this. If he cares about how you feel, then he will let you open up at your own pace, within his own idea of what's reasonable for him. If he values the relationship for more than something outside of sex, then he will give that space. If he values your comfort, then he will accommodate for you within a good amount of reason. Not every guy may be patient enough to give much space, but the guy for you will give you the right amount of space you need. Automatically blocking them, will automatically stop that process from happening.

>>33409197
>You're an idiot.
>This is stellar advice but for a slut or a healthy minded female living in a post sexual revolution world. Not for a sexually repressed femcel like her, I mean look at her posts.

She’s gonna need the advice precisely because she is repressed and unsocialised. I have every bit of faith that she will find a way to find somewhere in life for herself, the repressed are never repressed forever. Because nature abhors vacuums, always. Nothing lasts forever, not even being a ‘femcel’ or whatever. She will grow, she will eventually reach the social milestones same as anyone. So yes, the advice is meant for her as much as it is anyone else.

>You just gave her a logically sounding copout to never address her issues in the first place.
I can already see the mines those dudes will have to walk around when things get anywhere close to sexual that will trigger her projections.

I gave her the directions on how to avoid manchildren, deadbeats, fuckboys, simps. Basically anyone who only makes pussy the main goal. Thats who she should avoid. Besides, its not feminism that cemented that image of big bad coomer man in her head.

It’s this shit hole. Just browse the catalog for five minutes, watch all the threads crying about nit getting their PP sucked and read the posters talking about hurting women for rejecting them.

I give out advice for men on how to avoid crazy skanks, mentally ill turbo bitches, and psychotic harpies. Lots of inexperienced guys fall for the female equivalent of batshit too.

>>33409359
NTA but the advice you gave was
>Don't have sex until you trust the guy long-term. If you don't trust the guy, get rid of him.

But OP's issue is that she doesn't like men if the man wants sex at all. That she can't even begin to trust any man, because she assumes they want sex. She rejects all men because she thinks they all are
>only out for [her] vagina, and those that are should be rejected and avoided.
She does not know how to find a man who will convince her that that is not true for him. Partially because she thinks he'll be lying anyway.

>>33408934
Don't listen to your coworkers. What you want is completely reasonable. There's a lot of people out there who feel the same way, it's just the "sex with strangers" crowd that's loud about it. Stand by your principles.

>>33409359
You idiot. This girl is all three of those things you mentioned at the end. She DID have an amazing oppurtunity to be with a great man. She whored out so much and fucked it up. Shes lying and lamenting on 4chan now. Shes pretending she isnt the problem, trying to erase her past and pretend like what she did wasnt the most diabolical thing in recent history. She'll spend the rest of her life running, trying to ignore her mistakes and blaming men rather than herself, and she'll have infinite clueless men supporting her, because you are her supply. Shes weak and a coward, not a femcel. Coping in hideous ways.

>>33409346
>As a man gets more emotionally mature he starts to realize that sex isn't everything in life and that there's plenty of other valid reasons to desire intimate companionship too
So real, I'm 28 now and crave a genuine relationship more than anything, sex isn't a priority. Unfortunately every women I've dated is the opposite to me, they just want to fuck, they couldn't care less about me and actually building a meaningful relationship. I pray one day I'll meet a women who is actually emotionally mature but I really doubt that day will ever come.

>>33409388
>But OP's issue is that she doesn't like men if the man wants sex at all. That she can't even begin to trust any man, because she assumes they want sex. She rejects all men because she thinks they all are.

I’m giving her the benefit of the doubt, same as I do with anyone. I don’t pay attention to what they say, I prefer honing in on why they might be saying that. I don’t read at face value, if I did, then every single person I type to on here would be evil and hopeless and retarded to the point of needing warded.

If you read between the lines, it becomes simple to understand why OP says that shit. Fear. She’s afraid of becoming the object of desire. She is afraid of the weight of being desirable. Why? Self loathing mixed with fear of disappointing others.

>>33409405
>she whored out so much and fucked it up
Where did she say that?

>clueless men supporting her
Nah. I cant support someone I dont know. But I can just throw out encouragement whenever. Even if she did whore around, I’d wanna encourage not being a whore. Same as Id wanna encourage manwhores to stop manwhoring.

>>33409518
>Where did she say that?
I know who this person is. I have an energetic tie to her. She was suppose to be my wife. We both browse this website. She knew i was her husband. She then had a secret boyfriend, and was also pursuing men on top of that. Shes a terrible hypocrite. She cannot hide her mistakes. Not only was i not ONLY in it for the sex, i actually cared deeply about her. She slandered my name and made a fool out of me, and herself. I was loyal and celibate the whole 4 years i've known her. I dont give a fuck about her anymore but im trying to warn other men about her. Shes a monster dressed as a cute cat. Like i said she had the perfect oppurtunity to be with someone shes yearning for on here, she just too bitter to admit she fucked it up. Apparently i wasnt mr fucking flawless and she had to get with someone else. God unironically humbled her so bad. I have so much motion now lol.

>>33408834 (OP)
OP I narrowed it down to younger guys that only want one thing. When some men mature they don't lead every action with their penis so you see the good. But....I made mistakes from impulse and my inability to manage my hormones and was hurt a lot by guys saying and doing enough for me to let them have me. I became like you until I was around a man that never made me feel like a sexual object and I was so confused and angry at him and he accepted my anger with humor and sincerity. God before I knew I fell so deeply in love with him I trembled around him. I even begged him to love me back and he could have me. He never shamed me or belittled me nor took advantage of me only said we shouldn't because I was young and have my whole life to find someone more suitable. I want him so badly I don't even see other men as men at all. So the desire I believed was gone is not but its only for this one man. One thing though when a young guy approaches or opens his mouth I tell him to stop go away.

>>33408834 (OP)
Whenever I tried to let a girl take her time and just get to know her, eventually I got ghosted because I wasn't sexual enough. Even girls I only wanted to be friends with did that. If a man doesn't push for sex, the woman who's into him will feel unwanted, or worse she will see him as a weak shy low-T loser and lose attraction. Maybe not all of them are that lustful, but they learned to act that way from experience.
I don't also get if you want a friend or a boyfriend. If you want a boyfriend you can't expect both of you to act asexual, it's just contraddictory. But if you want male friends? You act like all your male friends are into you, but that is impossible.

>>33409518
Hm. As I reread your advice, and read between the lines, what I see her needing is indirectly provided in your message. My gripe is your final actionable item of: "Just don't have sex early and you'll be fine."

I agree that her issue is fear. The self-loathing and people-pleasing is involved, yes. But an important belief she needs to challenge is the male-villainizing fear-mongering and her deep fear of abandonment.

What I see missing here is:
"Don't have sex early. If he asks, that doesn't mean he's a monster. Say no, and how he responds will demonstrate his value as a man."

I'll give it to you that you do address that sex is not inherently sinister. But you're missing actionable details on what she should do. This reads as, "If a man sexually desires you before you are committed long-term, he is to be rejected and avoided." What she needs to know is, "A man might sexually desire you early on, but what gives him value is his commitment to wait."

She is stuck in the female narrative of man-vs-bear and pump-and-dump.

>>33408834 (OP)
>it makes me feel like a prostitute.
This is a you problem, I have plenty of female friends I don't want to fuck and some I do.

I feel the same way about women. There has been many a time I found some cool quirky woman who I like to talk to and play games with etc who turned out to just be as horny. I feel disgusted by them seeing me as just a cock. Same thing tho, it's a me Issue but you still have all the power in the situation and it's up to you what the outcome is.

Learn to trust someone, there are even guys I know that are weird around me trying to get me in their bed and shit, I ain't stupid, nor am I gay. It's straight up weird behaviour.

>>33408834 (OP)

If anything, those feelings of disgust are a divine calling for you to begin walking in purity. The guy that you call your boyfriend is simply him babysitting someone else's future spouse. As long as sex is involved, he "loves" you. But, once he's deprived of it, will his love towards you still be genuine? Or only whenever he always gets what he wants?

>>33408834 (OP)
>he will always expect sex at the end of it. it makes me feel like a prostitute.
And have you given it?

>>33409587
>Shes a monster dressed as a cute cat
You just described most women. Women don't want someone who's nice to them, certainly not for sex anyway. Honestly in all my years of dating, the better you treat women the less they dire you sexually. You were played dude, in the same way all nice guys are. My former self would never say this but, don't be nice to women, they will never respect you or see you as a prospective partner. It's the hardest truth I've ever learned but it female psychology, they interpret "niceness" as "desperate" even if sex isn't your main goal.

>>33409643
This doesnt erase the pain. Your wording makes it sound like a female. You can try and say and do things to excuse your past, but the pain will never go away. You sound like you didnt feel bad when you were whoring out, and now your readty to settle. Sounds like this guy you're into is a king. Theres plenty of young hot women that can recognize his worth right away and wont cheat on him. If you really couldnt control your impulses but loved this man, you would have pursued this him and had your needs met. Sounds like your just a whore. Cope and seethe that king will find better.

>>33409803
The thing is, im not a nice guy. Im fairly rude to most people. I dont have many friends for this reason. Trust me i know about the nice guy trope. I think this is more so me being in love and circumventing my rudeness to attract her / show her im safe. My ex from nearly a decade ago said i was a sex god. We had an amazing sex life and she was faithful and a pleasure to be around. I know females want rough sex and to be degraded, and she would have got it from me. Just moving on now. Not my responsibility that she gave other men the benefit of access without trying to stop them. Theres like 250 million girls out there that would treat me like a king. Im fairly well known.

>>33409849
Didn't you poop yourself once when you were depressed and didn't want to leave your bed?

>>33409902
Yeah. But i eventually left your mothers house and left her to clean it up. She texted me shortly after and said shes madly in love with me.

If you don't get disgusted at your need to eat food and sleep you probably shouldn't compartmentalize in this way

>>33408834 (OP)
I can help you with this via hypnosis

>>33408834 (OP)
You're probably not gay you just have a good head on your shoulders coz a lot of girls give themselves away too easily. A lot of guys are just skirt chasers but you can weed them out by just telling them you're saving yourself until marriage - if they try and convince you otherwise, they just want to fuck you. It will probably be difficult to find a guy who is actually willing to invest in you but it's better than being pump and dump

>>33409720
>"Say no, and how he responds will demonstrate his value as a man."
This 100% if he values the relationship enough then you two will grow at the same pace. If he moves on, that's fine because it was a sign that you two probably weren't compatible anyways. If he can't take a no, then he NEEDS a no.

>>33408834 (OP)
I guess, I don't know. It feels pretty shitty that women want literally everything from us except sex. It feels like we're make prostitutes. I know that probably doesn't make sense to you but that's how it feels to me. Like I'm good enough for everything else but as soon as I want my dick wet and actually want something valuable from her (sorry I know other stuff has value but it's just biologically hard to deny that sex is literally the thing we have to find somewhere else and is the most exclusive thing for a man to get generally) then I'm not wanted. It feels like I was used for what I could do or my company etc. it feels very ungenuine and like the woman is treating me like a tool or asset just to make her feel better or do stuff for her.

Women generally don't do actual stuff for guys. They might like, idk throw a party or draw a picture of something you like if they're friends, girls have done that shit before. But I've never had a girl help me move, or fix a car, or like help me rearrange furniture, or like help me paint a room or whatever. It's always them asking and receiving. And women typically are not loyal when it comes to friendship either. And if you are a good friend obviously we would find you more attractive and want to fuck you because you're actually nice and treat us well.

>>33413421
Waiting until marriage and saying that has literally never made a difference for me in female attraction. It feels like girls decide attraction inherently and then their relationship advice all operates on attraction being assumed and how to be a man that a girl wants to be long term with. 99% of men don't struggle with the long term part, we struggle with even being considered attractive to begin with by whatever criteria women decide (it's not waiting till marriage, being competent, being driven, having friends, etc. women literally do not care about these things.)

>>33408834 (OP)
>even if we go on a cute date or cuddling in bed or playing a video game together
>i always get the “i have something to tell you…” text from 99% of the guy friends or acquaintances i’ve had
Geeze, yeah you're really suffering. How many guys do you have bouncing around? These things make you sound like a hoe. Ironically, you sound like someone who is afraid of commitment and is actually just looking for a friend.

>>33408834 (OP)
>I think actual love exists and that human relationships haven't been solely transactional since 10,000 years ago
>I also don't like it when someone has a transactional need for me because of something I offer, because that would actually give me a stable relationship based on mutual need rather than just dumb fucking feelings
>This is your brain on feminism

You should be unironically happy if someone, somewhere, wants you for something. Millions of people alive today simply aren't needed for anything and are going to die alone because we have more people than we require.

>>33408834 (OP)
hey foid how about instead of moping about something retarded you tell me legitimate advice for how im supposed to fish one of you >>33414868

>>33408934
Based, if true.

>>33413702
Well then you're a #fag coz I'm dating a slightly weird religious girl who's all like no kiss until marriage and it's really charming to me. Wasn't even a purityfag until I met her but she's brought me around to it

>>33408934
Kill them

>>33408834 (OP)
I get why you say this but this is a projection from women who themselves think their only value is sex. It's like when somebody says "no one will love me" what is really going on in their head is that they don't love themselves. Not that I'm saying you're projecting but other women project it and innocent women believe it. Most men just want a gf. That's it. Teenage boys and college kids are sex obsessed because their hormones are going crazy but for adult men it is more about companionship.

>>33415842
And as for this:
>i always get the “i have something to tell you…” text from 99% of the guy friends or acquaintances i’ve had.
What does the text actually say? "I have something to tell you, I wanna have sex?" or "I have something to tell you, I like you as more than a friend?" Because why would you assume the latter is just looking for sex when what he's saying is he wants romantic companionship?

You should see where these feelings come from internally

>>33409197
>>33408834 (OP)
This anon is basically right. Op you sound a lot like my sister, she says the exact same things. I've also met other girls with similar opinions. It seems to be a view more common among women. I hope that you can find a man that you can love and respect. On the topic of male friends, I think you would be right to assume that most of them want to have sex with you. I think it's fine to hold them in contempt for this, especially if they try to decieve you. But, as the other anon said, sexual attraction is not exactly something that men can avoid, and I don't see why it should be regarded with such contempt

>>33408834 (OP)
>"guy friends"
>sex outside of marriage
>larp thread on /adv/
ngmi

>>33408834 (OP)
So find a husbandt, not an itty bitty titty bf
Then have lots of owo

Also da hell is this text, TF they tell you? I have something to tell you! I have been experiencing libidinal urges regarding you and just wanted to inform you madam. Wunna maybe.. . fugg..?

O_o sex with husband fetish
Boyfriends n girlfriends are for DEGENERATES! :3
Husband.. yummy
Gobbles

Sorry got nothing to post i've outscrooled this place

>>33408834 (OP)
>am i asexual or just gay?
Neither. You're mentally retarded. Fucking idiot.

>>33408873
You're a fucking moron. kys

>>33408878
No, but you've clearly suffered quite a few blows to the head. You're so fucking dumb you should just kys and bring up the average IQ of society.

>>33417203
I've never seen this form of shitposting before.

>>33417205
>>33417211
>>33417217
Samefag

>>33415041
>you should be happy if someone wants to pump and dump because of the baseline instincts that every male has towards even toddlers, babies, corpses, animals
no thanks

>>33408834 (OP)
You might be Asexual or this could be bait. Regardless I'm not attractive enough to care either way.

>>33417245
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