I'm also gonna ask chatgpt for workouts to get more curvy but still stay skinny. Do you anons think i need to change something?

>>33409577 (OP)
Assuming this isnt bait, its probably bad? Do you wake up at 5am already? If not, thats gonna be hard as fuck. Do 1 thing different for a few weeks and slowly add in stuff to change yourself. Cold turkey rarely works unless youre super motivated by your life being super fucked up by something.

>>33409577 (OP)
I think you might have trouble adjusting to this strict and over-scheduled routine. I think you are attempting to chase perfection because you think its pursuit will reward you with a victory over feelings like shame forever. And when this inevitably fails, you may feel worse than before.
The best advice I have is: have as much fun as you want throughout the day, but then be self-disciplined for 2-3 hours a day. Almost every day if you can. And schedule time to relax and socialize.
What do you think?

Pathetic dog of a woman. But this is bait probably.

>>33409661
You sound miserable.

>>33409577 (OP)
If youre looksmaxxing just find a gymbro to take you to the gym and he will tell you what to do. Yoga isn't gonna do shit

>>33409623
>>33409661
I'm a femanon. I just have no self esteem or motivation to socialize or live because I feel unattractive.

>>33409700
>Just find a Chad to help you and pay for your gym.
Okay, anon. You should go find a Stacy too.

>>33409742
Consider that when you feel or think something, it may not reflect reality, or even hold the same value that you give to it.
You are allowed to live and socialize even if you actually are ugly. It might feel better to reverse the order of operations here.
It’s also fucking bizarre to me that the majority of posts on this board describe the same views. Is it a product of being young? How old are you?
How simplistic a view of life it is to only hold value in appearance. There’s so much for you to find out and live yet.

>>33409577 (OP)
What does your current routine look like?

>>33409577 (OP)
reading books isn't going to make you any less of an incel, so you can replace it with movies. in what way do you feel unattractive, is it just your body, or face too? spend time learning makeup, that's one thing a lot of women have on lock, especially streamers. pic related

>>33410100
>replace books with movies
midwit

>>33409793
>How old are you?
20.
>There's so much for you to find out and live yet.
I know what you mean, but I just wish I could be treated the way normal girls are treated. This is the kind of thing that happens to girls who aren't pretty >>81943727

>>33409936
Skinny fat. Don't shave. Don't sleep enough. Don't wear makeup. Messy hair. Depressive thoughts.

>>33410100
I heard there are some books that can help you seem more charming or well spoken, like The Art of Seduction. By the way, I don't know if my standards are too low, but I think Emiru looks cute even in the before picture. But yeah, I'll try spending 30 minutes every day getting ready before leaving the house.

>>33410156
Read Erich fromm’s the art of loving.

>>33409577 (OP)
A schedule/routine is inherently good for anyone. It saves a ton of mental energy for important stuf and let's you get regular sleep cycles.
I notice that your schedule omits cleaning, cooking, and so on as well as only having one meal.
Just as importantly, I see no time for hobbies , friends, or family.
Be sure to ease in, as well.

>>33410154
yeh because reading twilight all fucking day is gonna get her laid. you're the midwit. reading itself is not an objectively valuable activity.

>>33410156
>Skinny fat. Don't shave. Don't sleep enough. Don't wear makeup. Messy hair. Depressive thoughts.
Those are all easy fixes except for the last one. Though I will say makeup is a skill not unlike painting well. As you learn to improve each thing, even if by a little, keep a log and remind yourself of your progress daily. That can maybe help fight against the sadness. Also, I was the one that said to replace books with movies just on the basis of distracting yourself from depressing shit. Ignore the "midwit" response above because they didn't take into account your situation. Don't forgo entertainment. The types of books you listed are good, people will meme on /lit/ with how to win friends and influence people, but that actually isn't a terrible read it's just outdated. I'm not sure what there is specifically for women but I'd say again, find films with women who you'd like to look, sound and act like, and just emulate it. But be aware there's a lot of bullshit out there to make your gender feel better. My twilight example is one, go beyond plain janes and seek out female characters you actually would feel threatened by and find what you can sample from them.

>>33410268
who said anything about young adult romance novels?
Do you actually believe that people can’t find any value of the human experience in great works of literature.
especially for many of (you) antisocial retards that can barely find solace in other people, a book can provide something to relate to in isolation.
>objectively valuable
is relaxation, comfort, or reflection not valuable? how did you come to be so stupid?

>>33409577 (OP)
There's no such thing as a femcel

>>33409793
While obviously mongolian basket weaving forum will attract certain types of people, internet mindbroke everyone.
Its ridiculous. It took your average regular normal teenage angst and amplified the signal by the thousand. Its jamming people's brains. I have no socials so I am barely aware, but I've been hearing that tiktok and social media in general are especially bad for young women (Louise Perry, Freya India).

I am a crazy giant retard loser and even I am appalled.
What was in the >>81943727 ? Its not even archived.

>>33409577 (OP)
After reading your posts I am not sure that your fitness level is truly your concern. Still, having some semblance of stability in life and good sleep is a must for a happy life. Just don't despair if you miss something or if it doesn't workout. The routine is bad, but its alright. Start doing it, then adjust it. If you never had a routine you won't be perfect, and you don't have to be. I get an impression that you might be the type of girl who spends a lot of time coming up with a perfect plan but less time executing it. For a person like this I would absolutely recommend that you should learn to half ass things. The more time you spend thinking about things the less you spend doing them, its a bro advice but there are underlying psychological mechanism that make it true. Mainly, every elaborate plan will give you a tiny bit of that dopamine hit, you already accomplished something after all. Your brain will love this behaviour, as it appeases the warning systems that make you feel bad about yourself in the first place, without doing anything ie. without making yourself vulnerable or expending unnecessary energy. If this rings any bells then its very important to break that cycle.

>>33409577 (OP)
>femcel
Simply say yes to one of the twelve guys who hits on you per day. It might sound hard but you can do it

>>33410303
Thank you for the advice. I totally get what you meant about movies now. I'd never really thought about trying to emulate the girls I admire or find attractive in them.

>>33410418
>>33409577 (OP)
Continuing, If the internet and doomscrooling ruin your happiness, but you find yourself unable to stop or even more lost when your out of it, then look up those women I mentioned. Especially Freya India which seems to be all about unfucking young female brains.

Fitness is great, but we already have a /fit/ board and many women post there, I especially recommend the fat losing threads. If you're able to keep up with your routine then good, if not then do calf raises. I mean it.

Its a singular exercise, its easy to do. Its not very taxing, even though your legs will burn like hell. You can do it whenever, and you will see effects after few week, and you will love them.

Or don't be American, be European and date me. I will validate you, then you can dump me for someone else once you're confident and fit, or better yet. We will fall in love with each other and we'll have a great future together. I am a great guy, don't care about your looks, just have a personality. I am 6'1 100lbs 27yr old, Love outdoors stuff, love travelling, hate people, hate clubbing, love nerdy shit. I will kill a tiger for you with bear hands. Unless there are no bears around then we'll have to make a run for it, I am not fighting a fucking tiger. Though I am strong so I'll carry you.
This is all it takes honestly.

>>33410418
>>33410503
>>33409577 (OP)
When men go /fit/ 99% of the time its because they lack confidence in themselves. They already would be able to meet women. But the brainwashing is so strong, its almost impossible to fight it without proof. Rejection is a fate worse than death, and under the influence of the internet, we are already pre-rejected. The real incel problem is confidence problem. We just don't talk to women. This is the case for all but the tiny fringe 0,01% of people too repulsive to date. You're no CC sort so I suspect your femcel essence is in this too.
Hell, before I started working out and taking care of myself better, it wasn't like I was some repulsive ass troll or some fuckboy. I had some interest from women I just never believed them. I was keenly aware through logic alone that I cannot be this bad through regular comparison with my peers. Even then, on an emotional level I was unable to be not literally be hurting milady by the sheer uncouth presence of myself. Personal proof always outweighs knowledge, get yourself a proof of your own worth.

You aren't socializing or dating because you're unattractive, but I bet you're unattractive because you never socialized/dated much. Uroboros sis...

You need to put yourself out there and make yourself available, apps could be a good way and somewhat safe. You don't even have to meet those people you talk with, but just being matched and talking to a cool guy will give you a boost and more importantly proof of being desirable. You don't have to fuck them either, in fact I advise against it. Too many women jumped on the carousel due to confidence issues and this always ends badly.

>>33410508
>but the tiny fringe 0,01% of people too repulsive to date
*95%

>>33410503
Sorry, but your long reply just reinforces my theory that ugly women aren't really seen as human. From a simple post about my routine you assumed:

>You can do it whenever and you will see effects after few week and you will love them.
That I'm just some skinny girl who'll see changes in a few weeks, not actually skinny fat with an objectively ugly body.

>Or don't be American
You assumed I'm American and probably pictured your standard white insecure girl. I am white, but not the cutesy image you made up.

>I will validate you, then you can dump me for someone else once you're confident
You assumed I want to be validated and then "use" someone, when I literally said I don't even like my body and I'm a femcel no one finds attractive.

>Don't care about your looks
Which is funny, since you assumed I'm skinny, cute, American, and insecure, all based on one post.

>Hate people, hate clubbing, love nerdy shit
You assumed I'm your quirky nerd girl when I never said any of that.

>The real incel problem is confidence. You're no CC sort so I suspect your femcel essence is in this too.
Again, assuming I'm cute but just lack confidence, instead of accepting I might just be ugly.

>Talking to a cool guy will give you a boost and proof of being desirable.
Assumed again that I'm the kind of girl a "cool guy" would ever find desirable. I said I'm ugly and a femcel.

Anyway. All your assumptions aside, was there anything actually wrong with the routine itself? Do I need to change anything in it?

>>33409577 (OP)
never fast it's bad for you, you are supposed to eat, just do more cardio

also where is the part where you try to meet guys? or if your self esteem sucks where is the part where you do research on how to treat that?

>>33410945
Yhm.
Where are you from?

>>33409577 (OP)
What are your planned workouts? Your schedule implies you will be waxing multiple times a week, which is ridiculous. Makeup is antithetical to skincare. Fasting will help with skincare. Quality tallow applied topically will do the rest. Diet is also a major factor. Don't listen to retards who claim fasting is bad - it is one of the most powerful tools for reducing inflammation and promoting healing. Also ignore the fools who say waking up at 5 is too hard seemingly without noticing you are going to sleep 9 hours before. Are you fat?

>>33409577 (OP)
Why study 8 hours a day in not uni days? The girl who only got top grades in every class in our year studied half of that. Sure, most of it was because of her intelligence, but if you lack talent then you're wasting your time since you're not gonna get better grades anyway.

>>33410945
A lot of assumptions were made I agree, but I don't agree on who made them OP.
I didn't reply to your first post, but I read the entire thread and then replied, so context of entire thread is included in my longpost. Are you really in uni with that level of reading comprehension? Your reply and what you got from my posts don't make any sense to me. Frankly I feel like we're already in a relationship since you're bitching at me with irrational shit.

I'll try to be brief.
>That I'm just some skinny girl who'll see changes in a few weeks(...)
I talked about calf raises. Its literally an exercise to strengthen your glutes, it gives you a nice shapely ass which is universally attractive. My 40 year old wine auntie coworker does it and it works for her. In your particular case, you are overweight so it will work even better for you. And that was worst case scenario. If you actually keep to a diet and exercise for ONE month, you will already see results.
>You assumed I'm American and probably pictured your standard white insecure girl(...)
american website
>>You assumed I want to be validated(...)
lol
>Which is funny, since you assumed I'm skinny, cute(...)
double lol, also is the thought of someone being interested in you so frightening you have to come up with shit like this?
>You assumed I'm your quirky nerd girl(...)
No, that was the part when I shared my interests with you. Your choice was to either vibe with it, or not.
>Again, assuming I'm cute but just lack confidence, instead of accepting I might just be ugly.
Its pointless to even address this one when you're like this
>Assumed again that I'm the kind of girl a "cool guy"(...)
I am him.

>>33410945
>>33412401
Regarding routine itself, you already got plenty of replies itt why its not great.
If you're not in europe then I am not interested, still I am concerned. On the off chance you're not just trolling and you are, well "yourself" then,

This is simply a delirious take
>Sorry, but your long reply just reinforces my theory that ugly women aren't really seen as human
I remember hating myself immensely once, so having thoughts like that, or interpreting shit in the worst way possible is familiar to me. Other people like this anon >>33409793 already pointed out that your assessment of reality may not be the most accurate, you are old enough to understand this and I suggest you give that idea more thought.

OP you don't have to date me lmao, just please seek help. Are you insured? If you are not, but you go to uni, your university should provide free mental health care, I think most do in USA. I am unsure how it got to this point, but if you truly think about yourself like this, then you need help from specialists and this is not something you can sweat out.

>>33409577 (OP)
Women can't be incels

>>33411761
Skinny-fat. I'm 66kg at 165cm. I asked Gemini to make me a workout routine so I can start doing physical activity.

>>33411997
Idk how to explain this to you, but my uni and major are really hard. It's something you actually do have to study after class. But yeah maybe 8 hours of study is too much. I will change that too.