Can losers become winners? I guess I'm just looking for people's stories of turning their life around. I'm down bad right now after a lot of regrettable mistakes, but trying to count my blessings and stay hopeful despite the dark thoughts I've been suffering.

>>33410462 (OP)
>can losers become winners
Yes. Just do shit. It doesn’t happen over night. Literally do things. I stopped drinking and started socializing and working out and spending time in nature reading books. Let yourself have things.

>>33410462 (OP)
Yes, absolutely. You know who my favorite example of a loser is? George Washington. That motherfucker failed a lot, but he kept trying, and in the end he has achieved a sort of immortality. If you go into it with that mindset, then just realize that you're going to fail, and possibly fail most of the time, but sometimes you win at critical junctions. You have to stay in the game if you want to win. Just don't quit. That's a lesson taught to be by my father, my first leadership when I joined the military, and life itself. If you keep trying, you will win some important ones, and you'll never live with regret.

>>33410497
I worked out for a year socialized never drank had some hobbies but I still felt like a loser in between and especially after the distractions. Not op

Only very gradually. People usually look at money as a yardstick in regards to this but a loser that wins the lottery is still a loser if nothing else changes

>>33410497
I'm trying man. Tired of being stuck but getting overwhelmed on what steps to take. Truth is covid and my dad passing took a very bad toll on me, I became extremely reclusive and stagnant, but I came to accept it and that my dad wouldn't want me living like this. I'm trying to get my shit back together and not dwell on what I did and didn't do in those years.
>>33410701
I get that. Ultimately that's what holds me back. I grew up poor and so am very insecure about status and money even though I have a lot of good qualities.

>>33410462 (OP)
google "failures who became successes"

>>33410462 (OP)
its possible but you have to get off this website and touch grass
go out and do something anon

>>33410462 (OP)
"Loser" and "winner" are pointless abstractions. People succeed at certain things and fail at others. Then they put labels on themselves that just get them into more trouble - "loser" becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, while "winner" ends up creating pressure that makes them risk-avoidant because if they fail at something, they don't get to consider themselves winners anymore. Reject both concepts, and do your best at what you think is the right thing to do. That's literally all you can do, everything else is out of your hands and up to God / fate / the Universe. Don't emotionally attach yourself to things that aren't up to you.

>>33411304
Yeah same here, my only ways to overcompensate my horrible economic status was building an delusional ego to present it publicly, practicing my drawing skills and overcoming my depression with smalls steps. Other than that i would be dead.

>>33410462 (OP)
I am a 40y old 4/10 neet chud with no job, no house, no money, no future, nothing. But I won't settle for anything less than a 7/10 with a banging body and pretty face who is half my age.
God owes me a beautiful loving white wife to make up for the cards I've been dealt in this life and for all the suffering I had to endure. As soon as Stacy falls in love with me my life will immediately turn around for the better from all aspects.

>>33410462 (OP)
If one's been a loser because of contingental environmental reasons (like growing up in a shitty family) then he can turn his life around. If you're a loser because of genes like mental illness or low IQ, you're destined to remain foundamentally inferior forever, but that doesn't mean that you can't improve to reach your maximum potential (which is still much lower than other people's).

>>33410462 (OP)
Every single Donald J Trump business has gone bankrupt at least once. Doesn't seem to have slowed him down much.

>>33410462 (OP)
Theoretically yes. That said, we have way more people on this planet than we need (for anything) currently, so, there are always going to be a lot of losers, no matter what the metric is. Finding a mate, keeping a job, owning a home, being the best at something, whatever - hence the massive amount of boo hoo threads. There are literally millions of un-needed humans. So if you want to go from loser to winner you're going to have to establish yourself as better than those millions in something.

>>33410462 (OP)
Well, I don't identify as a "winner" exactly but I'd say yeah. I was a scrawny incel who hated himself and everyone else. I assumed that I would never have a gf and die alone after a long, miserable and pointless life, maybe even by by suicide. I was genuinely hopeless. I regularly used drink and drugs. I was addicted to porn, 4chan and showing my dick to girls on Omegle (consensually). Fucking ridiculous lol

I am now in good shape, confident, have dated around 10 girls in the past year and fucked half of them. I earn good money and have decent friends. I'm dating a girl I can cum in whenever I want, and I somehow fucked a solid 9/10 recently.

Like >>33410497 said, just don't rot alone in your room.

I'm not happy exactly, but I've come quite a long way actually.

>>33415078
How old were you and how old are you now

>>33415088
20 > 30

My life was no longer shit by 24 maybe and is by most standards 'good' now. I'm very harsh on myself. At times I hate myself and spiral back down to that place.

I think most of it can be attributed to just doing good things for myself - gym, diet, reading and trying to get out and socialise/initiate things with friends. Dating has been a bit of a nightmare really, despite what I said earlier, but I no longer feel completely undesirable at least.

>>33410462 (OP)
I did, went from a social outcast from an abusive home to a charismatic Chad who can fix damn near anything.

Try to be the kind of person you wish would help you, that'll come true as you become that guy.

>>33411304
Most rich people make it through stepping on others. Understand that money is blood and even if every NPC in the world celebrates being wealthy it doesn't mean it's good. It's also nice not having much because those qualities that you talk about shine through much more brightly. Especially these days where many are poor you just get used for money if you have it and you as a person are secondary. Also a similar problem extremely good looking people have

>>33412560
Like what? Go where? What do I say to people? I have no idea what to do or say