>Autism
>ADHD
>Learning disability
>Can't make myself read, write, watch anything or do anything for more than 20 seconds at most.
How do I make myself focus on anything before just stopping and going back on my phone? Even on medicine I'm still like this.

>>33443242 (OP)
>>33425524 You got your answers here

>>33443247
I want actual advice I can implement

Learn inductive and deductive reasoning.

I have the same problem. But maybe you can set limits on your apps? It can help

>>33443242 (OP)
i bet when its something you care about you can go until you realize you havent eaten anything in 8 hours

>>33443242 (OP)
Fellow AdDHDer here.
Follow Dr Rachel Barr, The School of Life, How t ADHD, ADHD Love, ADHD Vision, Psych2Go and DoctorJulie on YouTube
All of them are educational, in ADHD techniques, psychology or just how your brain works (Rachel Barr also AuDHDer so she knows thing from inside). What make them even better that even their short formats are gems. 15 second of pure wisdom.
Medicine helps but not heals (it's like a walking stick: helps to move but if you cannot move, useless)
I'm here for a while if you need more just ask, I took my research for years (We are all standing on the shoulders of giants).

>>33443627
I can't even do it for things I care about anymore.

>>33443672
Not OP but I only knew two of those and the rest seem golden, thanks for the recommendation!

>>33443242 (OP)
>>ADHD
For people with ADHD (like me) there should exist something called hyperfocus, which means that while we lack focus on most things we can focus more than everyone else on things that matter to us the most.
For example I enjoy history and especially esotericism, so I started reading books about such subjects. I started doing it half a decade ago after finishing school and never stopped since. I read around 1 book per week on average. At first I had to read the same phrases multiple times to grasp the meaning but it was only a matter of time for me to become a good reader. Now I sometimes read aloud or listen to audiobooks or read in my mind except I focus on the words, which means that I understand much less the words I'm reading but by focusing in this way I practice a bit of mindfulness which is normally too hard to do, and indeed it's so hard I can rarely do it.
Can't help you with autism and the rest though. Have you tried reading about things that interest you the most?

>>33444316
>Have you tried reading about things that interest you the most?
I have and I've even tried writing about the things I like. Even still, I can barely focus on anything for more than a paragraph at most before stopping and looking at my phone or just pacing around doing nothing. I want to write; draw, do all kinds of things, but I can never make myself.

>>33444346
Have you tried physical exercise, gym, yoga, sports or just going out and socializing?

>>33444347
Yes, I've tried all of it. I just exercised yesterday. Nothing. I've tried socializing. Nothing. I've tried yoga. Nothing.

All of these strategies have never worked for me. None of them help me focus on things I want to get done. I'm still just pulling out my phone for that dopamine rush.

>>33443242 (OP)
Don't try to do it youtdlrf. Get professional help from psychologists, counselors, teachers, etc

>>33444418
I want to do it myself. I don't like socializing, and I want to be able to work on things by myself.

>>33444424
Not how it works. Humans are social animals and you will inevitably go insane without the right influences. You don't like socializing because you're a sperg but you still have to do it.

Currently drawing a little bit. I managed to get something done.

>>33444601
Give me advice that doesn't require me to socialize. I've already done it before and it didn't work.

>>33443277
>>33444072
>>33444411
>>33444424
>>33444621
>I want to do it myself
>now give me more advice that I can reject while asking for more advice because I'm completely dependent on this board and can't do anything myself

>>33444635
I want advice so I can do things on my own.

>>33444714
Okay here's my advice
go right ahead and do those things on your own
I fully support your decision to become a functional and independent man.

>>33443242 (OP)
Cut out sound

>>33444621
Changing your brain isn't an instantaneous thing. You've gone your entire life forming deep neural connections. They don't get erased the first few times you try to change. And willpower only goes so far. It's actually very important for an antisocial sperg to socialize, even though it's painful. You need normal behavior modeled for you, because you will never figure it out on your own. And it gets less painful over time, but you have to stick with it. If you do, one day you will find yourself able to tolerate or even enjoy it.

So, again, my advice is to quit being a stubborn retard and just listen to what I'm telling you. I'm also a sperg myself. Do you want to end up a maniac like Chris-chan or do you want to be a normal, non-delusional person who can respect himself and be respected by others? Make your choice.

>>33444759
How is this going to help me focus on tasks better?

>>33444870
It makes your brain more normal.

Right now the most important thing you need to do is detox from stimulation for a few days. But long-term, having a neurotypical person to model after is the most important thing.

>>33444908
No, I want to be able to focus on tasks. Being able to hyper focus is not a neurotypical thing to begin with.

>>33443277
>I want actual advice I ACHTUALLY LIKE
special needs thread detected

>>33444910
why do you argue with everyone who tries to help you

>>33444918
Because I've tried most of this advice before and none of this has worked.

>>33444910
God you are annoying. I'm an autist and I'm giving you the blueprint I followed that worked and you're rejecting it. Just shut the fuck up and do what I tell you bitch nigger.

Give up.

>>33444986
And do nothing? I'm already doing nothing and I want to do something.

>>33444975
I socialize plenty online. I want to be able to do these things on my own.

>>33444996
Or become a leech. Suck out as many resources as plausible without giving anything back in return.

>>33445003
Are you going to start giving advice soon or continue trolling?

>>33445007
That's a geniue advice. You could also become a hermit and live somewhere deep in the mountains. However, you will need to become far more self sufficient than your average folk

>>33445015
Are you going to start giving advice soon or continue trolling?

>>33444975
I've already tried all of the advice you've given me so far.
>>33444411

>>33444971
well that's not our problem is it

works on my machine

>>33445031
>I've already tried
>>33444971
>I've tried most of this advice

If you're unable to follow through with basic tasks, you're certainly unable to stick with a regiment or routine and everything else people have told you to do over the years you've posted this thread across multiple boards.

All you want to do is argue online.

>>33445056
How about give advice that works? I'm beyond tired of hearing the same advice over and over because people don't understand how ADHD works.

>>33445102
clearly your troubles are beyond our skillset, even everyone else with ADHD who still manage to get a life and do something with it, and you require professional help

>>33445108
I'm already seeing a psychiatrist. I'm on meds. Give me advice.

>>33445121
You don't want advice you want to argue.

>>33445126
I want advice which is why I came here. I've been told all of this advice before. I want advice that works.

>>33445126
>Asks for advice
>I say I've tried this advice before and it doesn't work for me
>Gaahhh you just want to argue!!!

>>33444635
The problem is that all of this advice are things that I've heard before multiple times and each time I have tried them, they never ever work. This is something someone who doesn't have ADHD does and then thinks it works for someone who does. I know because I tried all the common "cures," diet changes, increased sunlight exposure, exercise dopamine fasts, conditioning, all of it, and none of it worked. My problem isn't that my brain is dysregulated by society and bad food and whatnot, it's that my brain is genetically programed to have lower resting dopamine, something that isn't affected by conditioning either positively or negatively. You cannot fix it through simple regulation. Adderall doesn't cause me to "lock in for 6 hours straight" normal Adderall doesn't even last more than 3 hours, and extended release capsules barely last 6 hours. The conditioning also does nothing for the dysregulation of yes/no signals to the brain that causes clumsiness and impulsivity in people with ADHD

>>33445126
Assuming that was true, what do you want me to do about it?

>>33445128
>>33445174
>>33445380
>I don't want to argue
>triple replies to post trying to argue some more
lol

you've spent how many hours on this thread alone when you could instead be playing source film maker and drawing doodles for /ic/ ?

Seek further professional help if /adv/ has been unable to help you all this time.

>>33445576
I'm seeing a psychiatrist and nothing they've done has helped me either. Every medicine change hasn't helped me. Including changing stimulant dosages or antidepressant dosages. Nothing has worked.

>>33444759
>>33444908
Not that anon but I would like to know how you detox from overstimulation. My brain has felt buzzed and foggy for about a year at this point. I feel physically exhausted all the time to the point that I have trouble staying awake sometimes.
>>33444910
You have to be able to disengage from tasks at some point or else you burn yourself out. I've hyper focused on stuff before and spending all day with the same thing on your mind just makes actually working on it harder because your brain reaches a maximum level of fulfillment in a sense that leads to burnout.

>>33445581
so what do you want us to do about it

>>33445582
I can't hyperfocus period is the problem. I don't know how to hyperfocus on drawing or anything that I actually want to do. I'm on adderall, antidepressants and thyroid medicine. None of which has helped me focus.

>>33445595
>I don't know how to hyperfocus on drawing or anything that I actually want to do.
You don't want to draw, you want to argue.

You would instead be drawing right now, if it was what you wanted to do. You instead want to argue online about how you're immune to all medication and all of everyone's advice.

>>33445605
>It's yet another "You don't actually like drawing, you just like the idea of it" post
I've heard this a million times for literally every single hobby I've ever tried doing even for non creative ones or just anything in general. Am I not interested in anything at all?

Also, I'm not able to draw all the time, retard.

>>33445610
You love arguing online on 4chan, which is what you spend most of your time doing.

>>33445626
Actually, no. Most of my time is spent sitting in my room, laying in my bed, looking at my phone, jerking off and going to sleep while barely even being able to get out of my bed to play a video game every once in a blue moon.

howie thread

>>33445629
where do you get the spurt of energy to argue with people on 4chan for hours at a time for like 3-4 days straight

you got no problem doing that, you even type out with proper capitalization and punctuation

i can't even be bothered to do that lol

>>33445651
I don't know. How do I get that energy to actually finish drawings. I still have never even finished this fucking drawing after like 2 weeks. Using my phone is inherently stimulating, while drawing isn't.

>>33445655
>Using my phone is inherently stimulating, while drawing isn't.
well there you go you don't like to draw

problem solved, stop drawing and go argue with someone else about something else

maybe get mad at politics

>>33445687
>well there you go you don't like to draw
I've heard this for literally every single hobby that I've ever tried doing, even for non creative hobbies or just anything in general. Am I not interested in anything at all then?

>>33445595
You can focus without hyperfocus, having a more moderate level of focus is healthier because it leads to a more sustainable level of concentration. I don't have ADHD so I don't have advice for that side of things but it's better to maintain focus on a more moderate level than constantly thinking about the same thing all day.
>>33445655
>Using my phone is inherently stimulating, while drawing isn't.
I've had this same problem but with writing, it takes more mental effort than the short-term dopamine hit of scrolling 4chan. Most of the Internet and social media is designed to drag your attention away. If you can find an activity to ground yourself in the right level of sensory stuff going on (some autists need more and others need less, I don't know what category you'd fall under) it could help. My problem is that I end up using up too much focus on stuff that I shouldn't and end up becoming mentally fatigued.

>>33445655
>>33445710
I'm currently working on this picture right now. How do you make yourself focus on writing without having to look at anything else?

>>33445696
you love to argue on 4chan

is that what you do on your phone?

>>33445730
No. Just watching videos and browsing. Sometimes role-playing too.

>>33445742
so you think you have crippling ADHD just because you don't like to draw or animate?

you're perfectly fine at all these other things

>>33445758
You're bring intentionally reductionist. This is what its like for every single hobby I've ever tried doing. Even for non creative hobbies or just anything in general. I'm not able to keep up with any hobby.

>>33445803
>You're bring intentionally reductionist.
and you're using college-level english for your internet arguments

reductionist? I barely know what that means

>>33445803
role-playing isn't a hobby?
watching videos is 100% a hobby

>>33444316
>there should exist something called hyperfocus,
It's common but not necessary. I have (had, because as I age the symptomes get worse), my sister who also has ADHD doesnt have at all.
>I read around 1 book per week on average.
My record was 450 page in 12 hours. I finished the Lord of the Rings trinolgy in a week... good old days thogh.

>>33444910
filter out soundsfirst. If the light distracts you then reduce that too. I know autist people who are constantly wearing sunglasses (even I tend to do that). Also a lot of people claim that brown noise helps.

>>33444975
every neurodivergent is different. What works to you does not nesessary works for others

>>33445002
>I socialize plenty online
that's an illusion or diluted contact at best. You don't have proximity, eyecontact, body language, sensory contact, physical contact. People are half (?) visual animals, and 80% of their communications is nonverbal.

>>33445227
get your dopamine in healthy way. Go hikes, where literally every corner is an entire episode of animal planet. Do something creative in 2 or 3D. Draw, sculpt, carve. Create.
Talk to people wo are understand you. Go in ADHD or ASD groups. Discuss, argue, debate. If your brain cannot stop, then use it for something useful or something that makes you feel better.

>>33445595
>I don't know how to hyperfocus on drawing or anything that I actually want to do
try distracted focus. Put on some music that stimulating enough but not complicated to distract too much. To me it's ambient, postrock or witchhouse depends on mood. Sometimes just classical piano like Brian Crain or Lidovico Einaudi. Music helps. Somehow it stimulates parts of the brain that nothing else can trigger. I don't say it will work, but worth a try

>>33445605
>You would instead be drawing right now, if it was what you wanted to do
not Op but I used to like drawing and still want to yet do'nt do. For drawing you need a special niche mood when you look inwards to see why what and how you do, but not too much to follow the process . You need time and trigger too. There is a huge diffference between "I want to draw2 and "I want to draw this"

>>33446122
I think it's mostly the internet that distracts me.

>>33446174
That's literally what I'm trying to do rather than rely on my phone for dopamine.

>>33445841
Role-playing is but i can barely keep up with that either. Watching videos isn't.

>>33446829
yeah it is
doesn't matter if you're watching movies or anime or people skateboarding or whatever
you just love to argue bro

you got all this time and energy to be making threads and being focused on arguing with everyone tying to help you

>>33446862
are you gonna help or?

>>33446862
You type like a retard, and argue like an even bigger one. I just finished the line art on this drawing.

wow howie insults and claps back at people now, weird how he has the energy do that so passionately

>>33446914
So you admit that I like drawing?

>>33446533
set out timer. My exgf had the same problem and she dowloaded an app that you can set timer to reach certain pages (mostly soc media) 10 min a day then you get blocked out until next day.

>>33446910
>>33446959
you don't like drawing if you're only doing it to try to spite anonymous posters on a mongolian throat whistling subreddit because they call you out on your bullshit of being a full-time internet arguer

>>33448529
You can still like drawing and want to spite other people because they think they know you better than you know yourself.

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