So there is clearly a divide between the user base of /adv/. You have the guys that are essentially khhv, and then you have the guys that have actual dating experience. The only thing that I can think that separates them is physical qualities, as well a georacial location. Like some of the anons posting about their "ex-gfs" or :I can't get over her" are likely above average height/big dick or happen to be born the same race as the majority of women they are around. All of this just to ask, how much should I take the advice here to heart?

>>33484986 (OP)
>The only thing that I can think that separates them is physical qualities
You'd be wrong.
There's nothing wrong physically with a lot of these incels; some are even above average. But all you have to do is read their posts to see that they're total headcases.

>>33484997
Are you the kind of anon that falls in to the "ex-gf" group? I see your point, but would you be willing to post your stats?
>height
>race
>majority of women's race around you

>>33485002
Well yes, I've had many ex-gfs (and a gf now), but don't see what's so impressive about that. Also don't know what my stats have to do with anything since there are men of all heights and races with gfs (and without). But since you asked:
>5'9
>white
>white
Again, means nothing because there are plenty of white khhvs on this board, along with Indians and other browns lusting over white women. Maybe if they were in their own countries they wouldn't be having those problems yeah?

>>33484986 (OP)
>But all you have to do is read their posts to see that they're total headcases.

FPBP. Most incel posts start out crying about how they can't get laid because XYZ physical feature but scroll a bit further down and you can see their full "personality" on display and it becomes very apparent why they can't get girls. And some of them actually still manage to get women interested despite this but fumble it because of their retarded beliefs.

Basically if you are one or both of the following
>fat and out-of-shape, dress like shit and don't partake in basic hygiene
>barely get out of the house and have nonexistent social skills and don't ever attempt to talk to girls and flirt with them
then you have absolutely no right to be even contemplating "muh genetic lottery" as a possible excuse.

usually i am being sincere unless i am messing around

>>33485056
Privilege is truly invisible to those that have it

>>33485104
Ok, so where's the privilege?
If anything, according to the prevailing 4chan wisdom I read here all the time where anything under 6'2 is manlet status, I'm a manlet and should have been doomed to lifelong virginity myself.

>>33484986 (OP)
Take everything with a grain of salt, then compare it to your own life experience and use what you think is most useful. It's not hard.

>>33484986 (OP)
>physical qualities,
No, no, NO.

Two things separate the incel from the average social guy

1. Personality or lack of same. Being the kind of guy a girl will like to spend some time with

2. Actually asking the girl out. 99% of the social failures here never even try.

>>33484997
>>33484986 (OP)
You're obviously a loser yourself successful men don't come up on 4chan to feel superior to the lowest common denominator they already mog average guys. All you'll ever be is a boring average guy at best and that's why you're here belittling the lowest rung, you're not a swimmer in pussy yourself with your fucked up jawline and 3.5/10 pulls.

>>33484986 (OP)
>The only thing that I can think that separates them is physical qualities, as well a georacial location.

This is the most incel shit i've read in a hot minute

>>33485269
Delicious seethe.

>>33485291
Do you genuinely believe a 10/10 chad swimming in pussy is getting up on 4chan to belittle 0/10s? You're an unremarkable average at best loser yourself, and you know that which is why you don't already mog IRL you have to come on here to try and fail at doing it.

>>33485296
>Do you genuinely believe a 10/10 chad swimming in pussy is getting up on 4chan to belittle 0/10s?
That's not what I saw though anon, I saw someone being asked to describe his perfectly normal average experiences and stats so he did.
If you feel "belittled", that's on you.

I'm eating chocolate chip cookies and laughing at the cope

>>33484986 (OP)
>>33484997
This. Although some of them dress and look a little dorky, they still could theoretically be pulling equally dorky girls.

Instead they're all AAAAHHHH WHAT IF I'M EMBARASSED AND THEN SHE FAKE-RAPE CLAIMS ME AND MY JOB GETS CANCEL CULTURED

and 9 times out of 10 they're on that whole "she can only be a pure and wholesome trad virgin future wife who's 18 years old and doesn't have social media or piercings or this or that and 12 other things" bullshit, acting like terrorists that are holding themselves hostage with all these crazy demands.

>>33484986 (OP)
>Like some of the anons posting about their "ex-gfs" or :I can't get over her" are likely above average height/big dick or happen to be born the same race as the majority of women they are around.

5'9", 5 inches hard, literally never slept with a woman of the same race, no problems dating

stop making up problems that aren't real

>>33484986 (OP)
Stop defining yourself by online meme terminology and stop living your life based on the life experiences of other people.

Regardless of all the hope posters and anti incel posters, we can all agree, anons of Indian descent are fucked if trying to date in the west. Unless of course they're the archetype of Chad

>>33485343
>anons of Indian descent are fucked if trying to date in the west.
Who cares? They don't need to be in the west to begin with so that works out nicely.

>>33485350
Did you choose to be born where you were born? If not, then you're coping

>>33485360
If you don't like or fit in where you are, you don't need to choose to stay.
>but we want money
>but we want white women
Not my problem.

>>33485372
You say that like you chose to be born white, are you retarded?

>>33485379
What difference does that make?
If I was white born in India, I'd get the fuck out of there instead of hoping the country and its people would accommodate me.

>>33485392
But you aren't, you just hate brown people cause of the magnifying glass placed on the retarded ones

>>33485406
No we hate poojeets because you are stinky, stupid, annoying and rapey. You are literally lower than niggers and mudslimes.

>>33485498
I DIDNT ASK TO BE BORN THIS WAY GOSSSSSSHHHHH

>>33485406
I don't truly hate anyone but you guys are mostly retards and you put the magnifying glass on yourselves in threads like these.
Yes, I know white women are much hotter than your own and yes, I know they'd be your first choice. As I said before, that's also not my problem. Sorry Raj, nothing personal.

>>33484986 (OP)
>So there is clearly a divide between the user base of /adv/. You have the guys that are essentially khhv, and then you have the guys that have actual dating experience.

Correct. Just as there's two types of people: People who ate a potato and people who haven't. So what? It's a pointless divide.

>The only thing that I can think that separates them is physical qualities, as well a georacial location.

Stop yourself before you continue that dead-end mine of thinking. Pause, take a moment of quietness and then think: (you) have no idea what anons look like. You don't know their faces or bodies. You don't even know where they are from.
This means your reason has a big massive hole in it. Aka it is not reason, at all. Discard that line of thought.

>Like some of the anons posting about their "ex-gfs" or "I can't get over her" are likely above average height/big dick or happen to be born the same race as the majority of women they are around.

Again, you can't possibly know this. But let's pretend you do. Let's pretend everyone who made a thread talking about missing their ex-girlfriend or hating their ex-gf(s) all somehow had above average height and dick size.

What does it mean? It means despite their height and despite their cock size, their relationships still failed. It tells you that:

A)Dick size and height counted for nothing
B) There's far more going on in relationship dynamics than just flesh.

>All of this just to ask, how much should I take the advice here to heart?
If you are a naive type, inexperienced, easily convinced and easily preyed on, take nothing here seriously. If you have at least 1 testicle of resilience and an ounce of wisdom, then only take advice that actually produces insight. The kind that helps you with your own life. Not the stupid ramblings about other people's lives. But about your life. From an anon that clearly showed they paid attention and respect. Be selective in what advice you see on here.

>>33485551
I DIDNT ASK TO BE BORK THIS WAYYYYY

I do some accounting anthropology. All dating is worse because people are getting poorer. Women and males left in the dating pool at age 30 are the bottom cess of the dating pool, so both the men and women have severe mental issues in addition to a dying economy.

In history, this (27x inflation) would have already resulted in war multiple times, but the peasants lack force projection, and so it's a statistical outlier.

>>33484986 (OP)
>The only thing that I can think that separates them is physical qualities, as well a georacial location.
You'd be wrong. I was a full-born khhv incel till I was nearly 24. I'm now a sex-haver. I'm much fatter now than I was then, older, much poorer, more disabled, just as autistic, have worse skin, and am rather more mentally ill. I am not good looking (fat face with receding chin) and am exactly average height for where I live. I have a barely-average dick. I am white in a city where about 50% of the population is white.

So no, it is nothing to do with those things. What enabled me to escape from inceldom was gradually realising that absolutely everything I thought I knew about women and what they wanted was wrong. Once you realise that, things can change.

>>33485798
Share with the class what you learned

>>33484986 (OP)
>The only thing that I can think that separates them is physical qualities

>>33484986 (OP)
>guys that have actual dating experience
ie larpers

Look at the meme I did

It's all about your genetic makeup, there's nothing you can do to change that.

>It's the face
>It's the height
>It's the wealth
>It's the personality
>It's the race

Again, there's nothing you can do about any of that. It's all about genetics, it has always been. This is the hard black pill to swallow, if you're supposed to be tall, or small, handsome or ugly, wealth or poor, Indian or white, cool or boring. There's nothing you can change. It's set. It's predetermined by birth. Not even your name you can choose.

Elon Musk isn't Elon Musk because he worked hard, he worked hard because he is Elon Musk.

Chico Lachowski isn't handsome because he tried to 'looks max', he is handsome because he is Chico Lachowski.

Michael Jordan isn't one of the best basketball players because he trained his ass off, he is because he was born Michael Jordan.

Nichola Tesla wasn't smart and invented several things just because he studied, he studied because he was Nichola Tesla.

Robin Williams wasn't funny because he had to change his personality, it's because he was Robin Williams.

Legends are not made, they are born.

It's actually funny how things go full circle. Just be yourself, "bro"

It's actually poetic and liberator to be freed from yours and others expectations.

bump

I want to get rich so I can make up for all the lost time by fucking whores. I shouldn't have had to spend my adolescence and young adult hood sexless. But I was unfortunately born Indian and short so it disqualifies me from the meat marker of online dating Florida. My neighbors will know me as a whore monger. I will book one whore to show up at my door as another whore is leaving.

>>33485831
>Share with the class what you learned
I have on many occasions, but no one ever bothers to listen.

>>33486542
Not him but I will read all of it, anon.

>>33486518
That's how genetic determinism is bro. You can't change the fact you're Indian and probably autistic. Just be yourself

>>33486604
Do I look autistic?