Is human cloning ethical? - /an/ (#4998103) [Archived: 1037 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/6/2025, 3:20:26 AM No.4998103
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What about using organic matter like stem cells for brain-organoid-based computing?

Let's lay back and see what happens!
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Anonymous
6/6/2025, 3:52:04 AM No.4998112
My reactions as someone who is not educated on either topic:

Human cloning, probably not. Imagine being told from birth you're basically the same person as someone older who is or was alive; it's creating a serious identity problem for someone. But perhaps it would be okay if you don't tell the child and interesting to see how closely their life choices and abilities imitate the original over time.

Brain-based computing, okay if it's not sentient I guess.
Anonymous
6/6/2025, 4:05:21 AM No.4998117
I don't think ethics as academia thinks they know them exist. Ethics are improperly abstracted primate ethology with a schizophrenic focus on group dynamics. What is right or wrong is variable depending on the situation and there is no simple guiding principle that covers every situation without eventually resulting in extremely disadvantageous behavior. The dismal failure of every entirely self consistent application of ethics to date is telling. It is a branch of a horrid sort of philosophy that is an extension of a religion sorely missing its god.

I prefer to simply believe in a god, but not in any politically corrupted religion, and find it serendipitous that the right thing to do mostly aligns with his will and through paying attention to what is right to do and helps not just us, but those dear to us, can allow us to understand what god wanted the world to be like.
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Anonymous
6/6/2025, 4:06:28 AM No.4998118
>>4998117
--- In other words, there can not be a guiding principle comprehensible to man, and this incomprehensible truth, and anything capable of comprehending what it is, are simultaneously God.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 11:32:55 PM No.5000289
>>4998103 (OP)
I don't think that's a good idea
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 12:00:10 AM No.5000298
even completely ignoring ethical concerns, organic computers seems like an awful idea.
>power goes out for an hour due to maintenence
>computer literally dies
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Anonymous
6/11/2025, 7:25:21 AM No.5000419
Fuck your ethics I want a female of myself for sex
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Anonymous
6/11/2025, 9:12:59 AM No.5000438
>>5000298
This is the exact same reasoning why midwits everywhere are afraid of nuclear power. The answer is you plan for the worst scenario. An engineer can plan for literally any eventuality, even the eventuality of the system being managed by troglodytes.
The problem is that midwits are being listened to.
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Anonymous
6/11/2025, 9:36:35 AM No.5000439
>>4998103 (OP)
It's been done for years in the private sector.

I forget the name of the company, but Bill Clinton gave a short "speech" about cloning and "discouraged" it in the private sector but nothing passed that banned it AFAIK, and it was a fairly common topic at the time. I don't know what the laws are now, but the government can't do it (from an EO, I think) but as far as I know there's still nothing preventing the private sector from it.

>>4998117
You're just a gay new age faggot making a god in your image and vomiting buzzwords salad. I bet you think you're so clever too, like every other new ager with their head up their arse.

>>5000438
>more NPC buzzword vomit
>"The answer is you plan for the worst scenario."
Yeah, let's just ignore that many NPPs are built on the cheapest land they could find and that land was cheap for a reason and pretend like we're smarter than others. Idiot. People who post like you just want to appear smart.

Plus, there are better ways to boil water that don't involve nuclear waste. It's just a fact. I'm not even against nuclear power, but you're just a fucking retard parroting whatever talking points you think make you sound smart. It's why you lay on those buzzwords so thick like "midwit" and "troglodye" like some faggot terminally online tranny. Go kill yourself, freak. Just reading posts from "people" like you with your cancerous vocabulary makes me feel dumber.

>An engineer can plan for literally any eventuality
You're clearly not an engineer. I bet you're even underage.
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Anonymous
6/11/2025, 11:56:44 AM No.5000457
>>5000419
This
>>5000439
>complains about buzzwords before shitting a bunch of buzzwords himself
Beautiful
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:04:36 AM No.5001412
>>4998103 (OP)
If we talk about cloning healthy people with very good intellectual capacity? Yes, it is even more ethical than letting the disabled or people with risks of genetic diseases have children, you reduce the risks of suffering and improve humanity as a whole.
"But muh eugenics"
Yes, and what's wrong with wanting to improve ourselves as a species?