>This giant bipedal hairless creature that looks nothing like me and has powers beyond my comprehension and I can't understand what it's doing 80% of the time? Yeah I'll trust it with my life, seems like a chill guy.
Why are dogs like this?

>>5000854 (OP)
initially natural, then artificial selection

>but he has the food
when you raise an animal i assume they conceptualize you as a big version of them, and wild animals probably think you’re a big weird bird

>>5000854 (OP)
Congratulations, you have comprehended the nature of religion OP!

They love us, we may have powers they can't understand but their power of unconditional love is one we will never understand

Because wolves were already like that

Some people really overestimate the capabilities of 40,000 year old cavemen.

>>5000868
My mutt used to happy dance like that but she died a few years ago. I'm sad about that but also that her friend, the pit/boxer mix next door is now fifteen years old (!) and can't get up or down the garden stairs or down the front stairs for walks anymore so I don't see her these days. All the other dogs on this block are tiny faggot dogs (we don't know what Deeoji was; she was a yellow-brown mutt with the face, size and body shape of a bearded collie but short-haired and the wrong colour). Anyway, I'm not sure if it's worse for your dog to die unexpectedly like Deeoji did or watch your dog slowly deteriorate like the one next door.

>>5000892
>Deeoji
lel

>>5000854 (OP)
i suspect they just think we're big retards when they see us working hard on some dumb human thing. and most of the times they may even be right. but in the end we provide the food, like an anon said, and that's enough for them.

>>5000873
Technically that wolf's ancestors had nothing to do with dogs. They're cousins. The actual ancestor is some extinct variant of a tiny wolf like the Arabian wolf. You can see it in how feral dogs end up defaulting to a general medium size.

>>5000854 (OP)
>This wide shorty that looks absolutely nothing like me, is slower than me, less interested in having fun, and eats the same food I want? Yeah I'm thinking I'll work with him instead of my bros or anyone that looks like me, he gets the job done.
Why are coyotes like this?

>>5000925
>ACKSHUALLY
You only know that modern wolves do not descend from dogs and they share an ancestor. Just because they split, does not mean dogs were not wolves first. Dogs were first domesticated in northeast asia, and the earliest likely dog skeletons found are so hard to distinguish from just being slightly smaller siberian wolves that autistic soi-entists insist they aren't dogs. And yet we keep finding cavemen with them.

>You can see it in how feral dogs end up defaulting to a general medium size.
You see that because most feral dogs live in third world shitholes like india, so they adapt to the environment and become inferior pests and a disgrace to their ancestors. Hindustan street dogs are not the original, they are a derivation of a derivation.

>>5000935
badgers are better at digging than coyotes but coyotes are faster than badgers so if they hunt burrowing animals together it's vastly more efficient than either hunting alone. Either the rat hides from the coyote and gets dug out by the badger or it runs from the badger and gets run down by the coyote

>>5000873
Wolves and high content wolfdogs don't behave like domestic dogs. Stop mythologizing.

>>5000958
Moscow metro dogs. The Carolina dog. The Canaan dog.

>>5000935
>>5000965
diverstiy is their biggest strength

>>5000854 (OP)
we bring them love, food, shelter, toys, walks, games, care for their first to their last day and in exchange they just have to be
This arrangement seems rather fair to me.

>>5000972
>Wolves and high content wolfdogs don't behave like domestic do-
They do, with their owners. What's different is the socialization window, dog-dog aggression, and same sex aggression.

>>5000979
All derived, not originals.

I think you're giving dogs less credit than they deserve. At the very least, dogs are extremely good at empathy, they're certainly better at reading faces than my autistic ass.

>>5000854 (OP)
>barks at niggers

They know

>>5000854 (OP)
because

>>5000979
Dingos are the closest thing there is to the dogs of 25,000 years ago. Of course even the dogs of 25,000 years ago had been living with people and subject to human selection for 15,000 years by then. Any wild urban dog will have its form informed by its niche, same with any feral dog without access to ungulate prey. Even dingos are influenced by this, since they have to contend with roos and wallabies instead of antelope and deer.

>>5001960
>Dingos are the closest thing there is to the dogs of 25,000 years ago.
And they're nowhere near actual gray wolf size.
>Even dingos are influenced by this, since they have to contend with roos and wallabies instead of antelope and deer.
Arguably harder for a canid to take down a kangaroo.