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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:18:12 AM No.5002036
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Would it be possible to create actual animals hybrids/chimeras if it wasn't for ethics and/or religion?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:27:48 AM No.5002041
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In the way that you're thinking? No, it doesn't work like that. You can't take an elephant's trunk and put it on a giraffe, biology is a chemical pattern and mixing and matching requires far more effort than just "put that over there".
But in reality, we have transgenic lifeforms all the time, especially in plants, and we'll just have more in future. There's no market for meme mythological creatures, however. Not worth the sheer amount of effort it'd require to get right.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:48:36 AM No.5002065
>>5002036 (OP)
>animals hybrids
already exist they're called...
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:02:53 AM No.5002152
>>5002065
...mules
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:34:18 AM No.5002183
>>5002065
>>5002152
Yeah my bad. I used that word to describe something like pic related
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:40:19 PM No.5002267
>>5002036 (OP)
you member how colossal made a woolly mouse and a big white greywolf with some dire wolf traits?
you can crispr all kinds of traits into a completely different animal. you just need to know which gene(s) is responsible for the desired trait, copypasta it into a cell of your target animal and then produce a zygote and implant it into a surrogate.
>>5002041
>no market
what you think you could get for a chickensaurus? I'd say it'd be pretty damn valuable
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:44:58 PM No.5002273
>>5002267
Colossal manually input a gene into mice that was already present in mice (Google texel mice) and manually made some grey wolf pups taller. They just did man made intraspecific variation.
Which is still important and cool and has implications, but they lied about the extent of what they actually did.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:53:38 PM No.5002282
You can create them anyway... >>5002278
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:18:55 PM No.5002293
>>5002273
>manually
you call crispr-cas manually? interesting way to put it.
also source that they didn't make GMOs and what they did instead. how do you "input a gene" into a mouse if it is "already present"?
what exactly did they do to make the pups taller(direwolf) and white(dog), if it wasn't inserting genes from a different species?
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:19:15 PM No.5002294
>>5002267
rich people will pay but because novelty and thats really about it, lizard people are just going to get regular lizards because they dont have the setup for a chicken lizard, and those that would, would get something bigger like a monitor or tortoise
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:31:59 PM No.5002300
>>5002294
first sell to rich people for a lot of money, then lower the price and sell to a wider customer base. then make new phenotypes to keep selling and avoid inbreeding of the new "species"
then make a new GMO and sell that one, like a bigger one based on a turkey, then a emu.
it'd be a pretty long time before you run out of novelty and your costumer base runs out due to being bored.
getting regulated/canceled would be a much bigger issue.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:55:24 AM No.5002493
>>5002300
Anon, they raised 10 billion to make 2 direwolves, it's probably several million dollars to sell at cost, before r&d
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:22:39 AM No.5002501
>>5002041
Imagine if instead of dinosaurs Jurassic Park had been about a Disneylandesque fantasy theme park full of manticores and dragons
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:07:58 AM No.5002526
>>5002493
why are you lying that much?
a quick search says the whole company is valued! at 10 billion and raised 435million. thats the capital for building and running the whole company, not for making 2 wolf pups.
costs go down the more you do it and once you have a stable breeding population of something, its easy and cheap to make more of it.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:33:15 AM No.5002584
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>>5002036 (OP)
>Would it be possible to create actual animals hybrids/chimeras if it wasn't for ethics and/or religion?

I think first post is probably most correct: >>5002041
You can absolutely make hybrids, but you can't go radically off model, nor can you just "pick a part" make a novel chimera from /tg/.

Have you read the comic book or seen the movie "Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind"? It's set in a post-apocalyptic world and a lot of the endemic fauna were stock genetically engineered from a limited supply of animals. Pic related is the most 'brandable' example the "Horseclaw"; which is really just a bird re-engineered into a 'safe' domesticated terrorbird mount. Something like that would be possible/doable.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:52:17 AM No.5002587
>>5002267
>what you think you could get for a chickensaurus?
The sheer amount of money and effort put into making this designer pet a reality in the first place would make it too expensive to be sold commercially
You think the average influencer is paying 8 billion dollars for a chicken with teeth?
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:37:05 PM No.5002759
>>5002587
pulling numbers out of your arse again? collosal raised 435million. for everything. their facilities, staff, R&D, genome sequencing, GMO production, artificial womb dev, etc. and they probably have a good amount left over.
lets say it would cost them (or a similar company) 100million to make that pet dinochicken, which seems high.
sell them for 50k a pop
sell 20 for a million
2000 to break even
you dont think they'd be able to sell that many? a handfull of richfags would probably scoop up a few dozen each.
sales go down after 2-3 years? lower price to 10k. you think the average influencer wouldn't shell that out for their very own pet dino?
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:20:32 PM No.5002815
>>5002036 (OP)
No because they have different physiology and epigenetic. You basically need to engineer the organism from scratch in one whole run. No grafting snake tails on a chicken.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:12:24 AM No.5003023
>>5002759
>you think the average influencer wouldn't shell that out for their very own pet dino?
yes, because the average influencer does not want a bird or a reptile, they want a dog or a cat, they want "safe" animals to be their friend because they dont have any. anyone whose actually had to handle reptiles or birds knows that theyre not for the average person, you need to know a lot on how to handle them that theyre not going to do, and when the novelty wears off, theyre going to bitch and moan that theyre stuck with a 10k animal and its bills. the only one that going to be successful with it is the one who makes a 24/7 livestream of it in its enclosure, but a zoo wouldve already done that
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:56:26 AM No.5003050
>>5002584
>Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind
Thanks for the input. This looks and sounds interesting. I'm happy my thread is still around. Many of this posters' opinions are interesting as well
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 11:19:29 AM No.5003052
>>5003050
the movie has nothing to do with genetics seens in the manga, its still a good movie, but it think princess mononoke better for message of accepting nature as it is