Why do boardercollies have such high foreheads? Is it really because it's where the smarts is stored?

Inbreeding. Also I am not being a contrarian when I say the majority of them are actually pretty retarded

It's just a pug-tier skull deformity

Every border collie I know has severe OCD. If you introduce them to a laser pointer once they become extremely obsessed with points of light. People seem to have mistaken canine ocd/autism for intelligence because they assumed that "doing what i say because i say it, when i say it, without hesitation or backtalk because i am clearly the master" is the smartest thing a dog could do.

The smartest dog is the ACD (dingo/terrier/shepherd mix)

>>5002701
That sounds like a baby terminator

uh oh anon you referred to border collies as intelligent time for all the brainlet dog owners to cope about how their dog is smarter

>>5002704
>time for all the brainlet dog owners to cope about how their dog is smarter
Yes. OPs collie doesn't wear a chain.

>>5002703
heelers aren't known for their tolerance of children

>>5002701
Malinois is the smartest dog.

>>5002704
border collies are legit dumb. ive seen them get stuck in corners.

they're a single purpose slave dog. serious k9s that need to really be smart, thoughtful, and in control of themselves are almost always retrievers.

>>5002701
>terrier anything
>smart
just no

>>5002731
terriers are the smartest dogs
>b-b-b-but they eat babies!
if you were smart, you'd eat babies too

>>5002732
>t. pitbull

>collie collapse disorder
>collie eye anomaly
>double merle
>double bobtail (aussies)
>epilepsy
>progressive retinal atrophy
>lens luxation
>cobalamin malabsorption
>neuronal ceroid lipofuscinosis
>working drive != intelligence, doubt the cranial capacity of the man who mows several laws and trims the bushes and forgets he never got a paycheck
>aussies ranked together with salukis and huskies, no statistically significant difference
>cant into ivermectin
>popular with yuppies since huskies were too hard for their lazy wagie asses
>popular with furfags
>popular with horrible autistic owners who get their dogs killed with greedy irresponsible breeding and pointless surgeries

filled with sorrows

>>5002701
Based as fuck

>>5002701
Based, best breed

>>5002769
There are other terriers other than shitbulls, jack russells are very intellient

My 6 month old ACD puppy already knows that to open the door you have to turn the doorknob. He can't do it yet, but he tries. I never taught him this either btw

>>5005157
Smartest dog

>>5002704

No you don't understand my chihuahua pit mix is actually smarter than the widely accepted smartest dog breed

>>5005253
You say that, yet they are food driven enough to break out of a locked house, smell the scent of push chair half a mile away and navigate an entire city block to lock in on their target.

Seethe all you want but pitbulls are the canine equivalent of smart munitions.

>>5005253
Border collies have never been the smartest dog breed. Anyone who interacts with them knows this.

They have a severe obsessive disorder. If you use a laser pointer to play with a border collie, they are some of the few dogs that are consistently mentally absent enough to fall for it, and then they become obsessed with points of light.

They do not obey because they are intelligent. They obey because they are born mindbroken and then trained. It is not rational, intelligent behavior to obey a human "because dey ta massa".

>>5005275

Yes, clearly everyone knows it, except the entire world that has declared them the smartest breed

>>5005302
The whole world is a bunch of clickbait blogs repeating a discredit article no one in academia takes seriously

A large portion of the world also believes evolution is fake and every wild animal was created as is a few thousand years ago, that cats exterminate rodents, and hoping people get better cures illnesses.

>>5002697
>walked by a house that had border collies
>one of them was spastically jumping against the fence and barking
>the other one calmly sat down and stared at me like a creepy serial killer
the quiet one was somehow more intimidating

>>5002695 (OP)
>Watch studies comparing the problem-solving ability of wolves vs 'smart' dog breeds
>Wolves mog the fuck out of dogs so hard that it's sad to watch
Is it too late to admit that we fucked up and just start again?

>>5005483
>border collie
>Intimidating

>>5002700
>People seem to have mistaken canine ocd/autism for intelligence because they assumed that "doing what i say because i say it, when i say it, without hesitation or backtalk because i am clearly the master" is the smartest thing a dog could do

That's not really what they do though when they are working. I mean yes they must obey but that's hardly the whole picture. You might give them one single command to run out in a certain direction and they go out through a couple fences down through a gully up a big ass hill and approach stock that they have clearly lost sight of on the way from the side you said initially. Then they'll keep a constant eye on you and work with you staying in line as you move down another ridge. Being alert for and responding to any more directional commands and your movements. And keeping a whole lot of mad sheep from running in 10 different directions. They aren't blindly following commands, they are working with you as a team to achieve a goal.

If you got a different dog clever enough to do it better I'd love it see it!

>>5007140
You wouldn't like it if they turned those eyes on you. Farm dogs are tough man. This is one of my old dogs. He would launch himself straight at a 2000lb bulls head and bite him on the forehead to turn him

>>5007140
Being intimidating to livestock is a big part of their job. Granted these are heading dogs not so much border collies anymore. They are border collies with 100 years of selection to work on hard country in New Zealand. They are probably quite far removed in a lot of subtle and less subtle ways from a border collie who is bred to be a pet

>>5008471
At its core its just normal obedience turned way up with obsessive tendencies. herding is instinctive behavior, part of prey drive.

fuck

I don't know how anyone could hate this

>>5005275
My border collie is fucking obsessed with wheels
when I try to get my bike out of the garrage she bites the wheels like a complete moron

>>5008677
Brown people hate it because the only dogs they understand are pitbulls

Collie type dogs smell better than huskies

why would a shepherd want a smelly dog?