One of the most uncanny things about living in the Northeast is just how dead "nature" is. I can hike miles in the woods without encountering any animals, barely any insects. You can hear an odd bird here and there. There are streams but no minnows or bugs or frogs or crustaceans. It's really creepy. I grew up in the South and it was not like this at all.

I live in that region and hear a bunch of shit right this very minute
BUT
There are skinwalkers

>>5002917
>skinwalkers
Don’t exist, it’s been proven. The woods are very safe for humans so just relax.

A couple hundred years of deforestation, development, and invasive species will do that. The cold and wet weather helps keep it that way.

Where in the Northeast? I've been too northeastern forests in Delaware, PA, NJ, NY, CT and VT and seen plenty of wildlife. In Delaware just last month, I watched a crane for a while as it did crane things. I mentioned the seals in my town before and said I'd take pictures of them next season. I routinely get hawks/falcons/whatever they are in my mulberry tree in the back of my house. On lucky days, I can watch eagles do their death spiral fuck ritual. My kid likes looking for garter snakes and turtles. I hear frogs outside right now. And so much more.
So I ask again: where in the northeast are your that nature is so "dead?"

Southern Maine here; last night I saw a skunk and a deer on my 10 drive home from work.

>>5002919
Sounds like something a skinwalker would type

>>5002917
there are skinwalkers all over the us. Where I'm at we normally get the, uh, whatever they're called, the ones that move slow and don't disguise much. Pale crawlers I think.

>>5002916 (OP)
I live in Northern Illinois about halfway between Chicago and Iowa. Birds around here are weirdly various plentiful despite the generally prevailing intensive agriculture. I've even seen a Hummingbird in late September feeding on my cardinal vine, while Canada Geese were sailing overhead. Swift flocks, a certain great horned owl perched on my roof one night.

>>5002990
*I'm fond turkey vultures, which sail thermals usually about 600 feet up around here. Strange creatures, rarely seen on the ground by humans.

>>5002943
nobody considers Delaware the Northeast

>>5003022
maybe in 1865, but it's definitely considered as such now, at least by a significant number of people.

>>5003022
>>5003035
it does have a more natural border with the Potomac dividing the south with new england, imo. Makes perfect sense to me.

>>5003036
You don't know where Delaware is.

>>5002993
I saw one on the ground in Maryland last month. Amazing birds.

>>5003127
Golden eagles, oddly named for their brown plumage, are almost as frequent here, at least during June. I recognize them mostly by their more sleek outline, faster rate in flight. Most of the time I notice big thermal-sailing birds is when startled by fast-moving shadows of them. Evidently turkey vultures flock from time to time. At least I saw about 100 of them going generally NE one mid October afternoon, loosely strung out over about 5 miles, but obviously together. God knows why or to where.

I miss the Adirondack mountains but I'll never go to the northeast ever again. Shame I'll never hear loons again

I live in Philly and I saw a bald eagle the other day. Probably flew up from Wilmington.

>>5002916 (OP)
why would you move to the north east from the south in the 2020s? Are you retarded?

>>5002916 (OP)
The sudden feeling of emptiness means a sasquatch is nearby

>>5003101
it is on the delmarva peninsula, squarely on the northern side of the potomac, as you can see in BOTH of those maps you mouthbreathing yankee

>>5003255
>delmarva
to this day, the worst name in the US. In millennia, linguists will puzzle over it to no avail.

I live like seventeen miles from Boston and on a regular basis I see squirrels chipmunks rabbits deer opossums skunks raccoons coyotes and the occasional bobcat and I also saw a crayfish the other day. Too many birds to list out.
In a way I still sort of agree though. The woods themselves actually seem to have less wildlife. They're doing great in the burbs where I'm at though.

>>5003265
Oh and tree frogs, toads, and garter snakes.
Right now we are in a critter boom - tons of rabbits squirrels and chipmunks.

>>5003255
You really need to look at >>5003036 a little more closely, my triple-chromosomed compadre. : )

>>5003266
Last one, sorry - I have also seen multiple snapping turtles and box turtles this year.

>>5003265
massachusettes is the worst state I've ever been to. What an overpopulated shithole.

>>5002916 (OP)
Plenty of animals around me. Fish in my pond, a dozen plus bird species visiting every day, wildcat, coyote, deer, bear, chipmunk, squirrel, skunk, possum, bats, raccoons, groundhogs and foxes. Probably some things I can't even recall, but they are shy and aren't likely to make themselves visible if you're moving about. You'd have to sit down at a spot with food for an hour or two to see variety and you won't see everything on every day of course.

>>5003035
NH here, nothing beyond NY is northeast. NJ through SC are mid-atlantic states.

>>5003272
>retard here
>retarded personal definition
checks out. Still jail for a joint in the live free or die state?

>>5003269
The anon below reminded me of foxes groundhogs and bats.
>>5003270
Cool, no need to ever come here then.

>>5003274
>Cool, no need to ever come here then.
you're right, there isn't you gay retard. Imagine pretending to be one of those guys from like Wyoming posting "le it sucks never come here xD" from the most overpopulated, overpriced, overregulated, overdeveloped state in the country.

>>5003275
lol your anger is funny

>>5003273
Nobody goes to jail for weed here, we just don't have recreational pot shops. Which is nice, everywhere smells like weed in ME/MA/VT so I'm all for it staying as is.

Delaware isn't northeast and never has been northeast, so fuck off.

>>5003276
nico tranny is that you?

>>5003277
the northeast suxx0rz thoumsteverbeit

THIS IS NOW A LIST ANIMALS YOU'VE SEEN THIS YEAR THREAD
>possums
>armadillos
>deer
>roadrunners
>bald eagle
>hawks
>buzzards
>snapping turtle
>soft shell turtles
>a bunch of different hard shell turtles
>skinks
>raccoons
>nutria
>foxes
>variety of frogs
>variety of spiders (notably big wolf spiders, "banana" orb weavers and a black widow)
>carpenter bees
>cow killer ants
>mud daubers
>paper wasps
>rabbits
>moles
and the coyotes are THICK this year

>>5003277
delaware is literally in the northeast. You physically can't get any more east and it's well above 50th percentile northiness as well

most the land in the new england area at one point was deforested and just empty fields for crops or animals. Its been less than 100 years since its been reclaimed by the wild.
Whats actually insane is how dead the wilderness is in general. Animals should be everywhere.. yes everywhere. You rarely ever see shit these days and when you do its like a unusual encounter. It shouldn't be. Your neighbors should be deer, chipmunks, squirrels..groundhogs, foxes you name it. Instead its just a deadzone with the occasional squirrel and songbird that passersby. Soon they won't even exist

>>5003267
I take >>5003255 back.
You meant that the Potomac is the natural border of the North, not of Delaware. Sorry. Derp on me. Forgive me? I'll give you some crabs.
>They only itch a little.

>>5003306
the only wilderness in the northeast is in northern NY and Maine but both states are occupied by hostile libshit fag governments so anyone possessing good sense should flee south or west

>>5003255
I take >>5003267 back.
You meant that the Potomac is the natural border of the North, not of Delaware. Sorry. Derp on me. Forgive me? I'll give you some crabs.
>They only itch a little.

>>5003309
You are very, very stupid. You ought to be ashamed.

>>5003312
elaborate or forever be troonjak.png

>>5002916 (OP)
>live in the UK
>Scotland of all places
>supposed to be stronghold country of british wildlife
>live next to small country park
>big old wood
>popular with walkers and obviously maintained but otherwise untouched
Seen: grey squirrels, kingfishers, ducks, buzzards, some unique shieldbugs, but thats it.
I know the UK is a notorious deadzone but idk I thought I'd see more moving up to Scotland from England.

Theres some wildlife under my car right now. He eating cat food. Usually I put dog food so it doesn't attract feral cats but I ran out and still have a big unused bag of cat food so I will go thru that for now, unless the feral cats come back. I don't want them hanging around killing my birds.

Now for some water

This evening a veery was singing very close to my house, right in the woods past my yard. Lovely song. My second favorite after wood thrushes song, which I hear fairly often lately but it's usually mixed in with a dozen other birds songs in the morning, hard to focus on.

>>5003297
no it's not. it's mid-atlantic. if you said you're part of the northeast to someone in new england you'd just be laughed at.

>>5003334
The northeast is anything north of virginia and east of ohio. Shut the fuck up you myopic faggot

>>5003336
you will never be northeast

>>5003338
I was born and lived in the Adirondack mountains on the border of Canada for 29 years, my wife is from Worchester and I followed around phish and various other ham blands for more than a decade. I'm more northeast than you ever will be and I would have to be dragged dead back up to that shithole corner of the country.

>>5003313
Because this photograph was taken in the northeast but in neither state you mentioned.

>>5003343
>I'm more northeast than you ever will be
i've lived here my whole life you stupid faggot lmao

>>5003272
nobody outside of your region distinguishes the two. Totally fine for you to but most people don't see a difference.

>>5003343
I was born in Worcester and I know how to both spell it and say it

>>5002919
Barely disguised Skinwalker posting

>>5003287
south jersey
>turkeys
>fox
>deer
>river otter
>robins
>crows
>ravens
>finches
>snapping turtle
>smaller turtles
>green sunfish (invasive)
>salamanders
>green frogs and their tadpoles
>carp
>largemouth bass
>bluegills
>pumpkinseeds
>chain pickerel
>black crappie
>grey catfish
>bullhead catfish

>>5002916 (OP)
I own about 30 Acres in Western New York and it really is pretty fucking dead to be desu.
Outside of hunting season where you get the deer and turkey crowds most of the land is basically barren most of the year.
I can go for hikes around my property all day and see very little other than rodents and a few small birds.

>>5003510
To be honest I don't get it, and don't believe you. I live about halfway between Chicago and the Iowa border, and the bird life here is amazing.

>>5003316
Much of the Old World's nature has been smashed and slammed by intensive agriculture and industrialisation by centuries now. Americas in contrast has been spared from that.

>>5003361
>>5003411
That really sucks bros hope it gets better for you

>>5003241
>why would you move to the north east from the south in the 2020s? Are you retarded?
I moved up here for law school then stayed for work. I wish I stayed in the South. I miss hearing frogs when it rains.

>>5003609
you've made enough money bro, come home. The north east is a hell hole full of pricks and passive aggressive faggots. Move back to the south where someone will properly blow your head off, you'll have plenty of work.

>>5003609
>CRICK CRICK CRICK CRICK CRICK CRICK CRICK CRICK
>RIBBIT RIBBIT RIBBIT RIBBIT RIBBIT
>CROAK.......... CROAK........... CROAK......
>CHIRPCHIRPCHIRPCHIRPCHIRPCHIRPCHIRPCHIRPCHIRPCHIRPCHIRPCHIRPCHIRPCHIRPCHIRPCHIRP

>>5003520
>I live in the midwest, and what you said about the northeast is wrong

>>5003609
Delaware guy here. I also posted this a few weeks ago: >>>/ck/21374117
>My wife's in bed upstairs and I'm sat in the damn basement tapping at my phone and listening to the frogs and drizzle outside.
Come to Delaware. We've got frogs. : )

because the northeast on the eastern side of the mississippi was ground clean to the bedrock by the glacier during the ice age. What you have is relic populations either from Sothern edge of relic holarctic species range, a few rare species that survived in oasis in the ice sheet and colonizers from the mid west. The ecosystem is only 10 -20k years old and verry limited in species.

Compare the fish species of say maine to the great lakes and you will see how limited the biodiversity is

>>5002979
Those are lost boomers.

>>5003635
This is the real answer, don't know why it took so long to be posted.
>Compare the fish species of say maine to the great lakes and you will see how limited the biodiversity is
Great Lakes is diverse because the Mississippi River leads to it. It's connected to Tennessee which has the most freshwater fish diversity in the USA because it's where the glacial refuge was.
Compare it to something like the Potomac or Delaware River that only goes for like 400 miles through formerly glaciated land and then coastal plains. Look at historical records and they didn't have shit until we stocked it with gamefish.

>>5002932
"Invasive" is a buzzword. You can't just pick a moment in time and demand it to stay like that forever. Species are simply returning to their former homes. Ailanthus (tree of heaven) fossils were found in the US, as were things like tegus and boas.
>inb4 they're from other countries!
Armadillos, coyotes, and alligators are also expanding their range.

>>5004031
>Species are simply returning to their former homes
Or being eradicated. I want my parakeets back.

>>5004031
>Delaware River ain't got shit, homie
We have dolphins : )

>>5003939
<WTF IS THAT
^dammit, pops got out again. GET BACK HERE PA
>....This isn't the way to the walmart...

>>5003510
Meanwhile, here in NNY, was mucking around in a gravel pit on my cousin's property today and the water pooled there was alive with polliwogs. Crossed the road back over to the little wooded area where I left my bike and scared up a bunch of either turkey poults or immature grouse. Heard a cardinal in the pasture and saw woodchuck.on my way home.
Out in my overgrown asparagus patch this evening and there's a spot where a deer had bedded down.

The open woods do tend to be relatively empty though. Everything's in the scrub and margins.

>>5004072
>bro I saw one single frog spawn and two birds
>even probably a gopher (my neighbors cat)!
so this is the power of the north east

>>5002916 (OP)
Insect die off the past couple decades. Beginning of the end. Worst thing that can possibly happen is an insect die off.

>>5004438
This is over the course of a couple hours and 3 miles. If you want me to do the list thing though, I have or have had in my yard:
>deer
>turkeys
>foxes
>raccoons
>skunks
>rabbits
>woodchucks
>grey squirrels
>red squirrels
>chipmunks
>moles
>voles
>shrews
>deer mice
>house mice
>frogs
>toads
>salamanders
>birds of all kinds up to and including crows, hawks, a grouse and a sawwhet owl.
I'm counting the porcupine I found dead at the end of my driveway and the dead rat I found in it. (the driveway, not the porcupine)

Within a mile or so of my house I have seen:
>beavers
>muskrats
>snowshoe hare
>mink
>bald eagles
>blue herons
>green herons
>snapping turtles
>trout(stocked)
>minnows
>crayfish
Actually haven't seen a live crayfish in ages but then I haven't been looking and I do find bits the kingfishers leave.

Insects we have plenty of and the fact you found the one stretch of woods in NY that isn't swarming with deerflies, blackflies and mosquitos is immediately suspect.

>>5004852
>mink
I WANNA PET IT

>>5004863
I practically could've.I froze when I saw it and it came to within about 3-4 feet of me like I wasn't there.

>>5003609
I'm in south jersey and we get spring peepers as early as march (when it's still fucking 40 out even what are these little shits doing), and there was a toad fucking around in my backyard earlier today. you're just not in the right parts.

>>5004852
>crows
There's a pair out there now with a young one teasing for food. No wonder they were carrying on when I was out back the other day.

>>5002916 (OP)
You aren’t looking hard enough. Northeasterners like to stay out of each other’s way, and that goes for our fauna too.

Also, try appreciating a plant once in a while.

>>5003510
Meanwhile - I have 4.5 acres in western NY and I regularly see foxes, raccoons, squirrels, possums, skunks, the ever present deer and rabbits, too many birds to list off but including shit like cranes and eagles (bald and golden). Sometimes a black bear will pass through and if I get lucky I'll see a fisher cat or a lynx.

Oh, and those goddamn coyotes constantly making a ton of noise at night.

>>5006046
>possums
Shit, knew I was forgetting something. It was dead in my garage but I'm counting that too. I assume it's the same one I saw alive at my neighbor's feeder.
>Coyotes
Seen those too outside of town now that you mention it.

>>5002916 (OP)
It's the middle of summer retard try going out in the early morning or late evening

>>5006094
Oddly enough - woodchucks used to be far more present but I haven't seen one in years even if there's still a ton of their old holes all over my yard making my ass hurt by driving over them on my mower.

I doubt it's the foxes, they're too busy hunting the moles in my yard.

>>5006103
Foxes and rabbits will use abandoned chuckholes. The rabbits seem to show up in cycles so maybe they do too? The brazen little fuck that dug one under my front porch I never saw till after the fact, so maybe it's like >>5006102.

>>5002916 (OP)
It's because the North-east spent the last 100 years killing all of their old growth forests. Everything you see is new growth that crept in over time. The animals are still slowly moving back in, but there's not much reason to when humans so actively force them out.