>This behaviour may represent some of the first accounts of a wild predator intentionally using prey, and other items, to directly explore human behaviour
Are Orcas trying to domesticate us?

>>5010180 (OP)
https://psycnet.apa.org/fulltext/2026-29805-001.html

>>5010180 (OP)
Friendly reminder that we put these animals in tiny pools for loud crowds to goggle at them.

Reading up on their intelligence and social structures makes you want to go on a rampage in sea world.

>>5010180 (OP)
>may represent some of the first accounts of a wild predator intentionally using prey, and other items, to directly explore human behaviour
ignoring that leopard seals, lions, cheetah, wolves, etc have all done this before too lol

>>5010183
Sea world always seemed unnecessarially cruel to the large marine life. It's one thing in zoos and safaris, landscaping has been humanities bread and butter for civilization building for millennia but the upkeep costs for marine tanks are especially abombinally high, while being nothing more than a torture chamber for the animals anyways.

>>5010187
Maybe but this does sound like a really awe inspiring experience with something as big as Orcas
>In 1984, researcher Dan McSweeney was following a group of false killer whales off the Kona Coast and slipped into the water with a mask, a small scuba tank, and an underwater camera. Two black shapes moved by below, vocalizing. Dan turned, and a third individual was swimming rapidly toward him, carrying most of a large ‘ahi, a yellowfin tuna, weighing over 45 kilograms (kg) (100 pounds [lbs]). The whale stopped a couple of metres away and opened its mouth, letting the fish go, and the momentum carried the fish toward Dan. The whale was obviously offering the fish to him, and Dan reached out and took it. The false killer whale started blowing bubbles, moved away, then turned rapidly and came back, stopping next to him again. Dan pushed the fish back toward the whale; it took it slowly and deliberately, then moved away and joined its companions. The whales passed the fish back and forth and started to consume it, and all had a share

>>5010183
>we put these animals in tiny pools for loud crowds to goggle at them.
Not anymore. that is a thing of the past, why are you still complaining?

>>5010181
>>5010187
I think the distinction the paper is trying to make is that the orcas are gifting humans prey for the sake of curiosity and exploration (e.g. trying to see how humans react to the gift), as the orcas involved in the activity belonged to many different age and sex classes and often gave up within 30 seconds.

The female leopard seal, on the other hand, might have been trying to feed the photographer penguins for days due to a rather strong maternal drive, though we only have a sample size of 1 for the leopard seal behaviour

>>5010197
There's still almost 60 orcas living in captivity, shut the fuck up

>>5010216
so we don't put them in captivity anymore

>>5010216
They know what they did.

>ywn be forced to perform in the orca equivalent of seaworld
FUUUCK

>>5010183
Friendly Reminder: I'm going to do worse to these psychopathic fucks.

>>5010187
This

>>5010248
It would be better if they drew the leopard seal like an actual leopard seal instead of a dumb anime girl

There is a beauty to these ice wolves that shouldn't go unnoticed. People who interact with them have used language like "sexy mermaid".

>>5010248
>marry
no, they think you're an oversized infant incapable of getting food on your own
and its anecdotal evidence anyway

>>5010252

>>5010278
I remember when shane frost used to do depressing stories on Tapas.

>>5010290
Oh he still does comics, he just posts everything on FA

>>5010252
Memes aside, I do think they are really pretty animals.

>>5010219
>>5010229
I don't see any humans in orca captivity

>>5010333
That would be weird, haha.

Orcas are blind, believe it or not. Very cool.

>>5010248
Why do the nips love their alternate subtitles?

>>5010333
>I don't see any humans in orca captivity
>I don't see
Keyword there. They're a little more discreet than us.
t. former captive in an orca terrarium

>>5010430
>Orcas are blind, believe it or not. Very cool.
getting real tired of your "scholarly" bullshit

>>5010333
soon, and ill be the first to sign up

>>5010534
They're not completely blind, but blind enough that that's the reason why dolphins have echolocation abilities.

>>5010534
no one tell this guy about echolocation the scholarly bullshit will break his brain. turns out there are better ways to perceive your environment when you live your live completely underwater.

>>5010180 (OP)
Damn they really went to trying to share their snacks with us to fighting a war against our small ocean vessels. Can't say I blame them, I for one am declaring my allegiance to the killer whales. the century of cetacean prosperity is coming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAIHaxdbVmE

>>5010198
>The female leopard seal, on the other hand, might have been trying to feed the photographer penguins for days due to a rather strong maternal drive
YWN have a mommy seal gf

>>5010190
So you're telling me Orcas are Indian givers.

>>5010183
People only started learning about their intelligence and social structures thanks to the fact they were put in tiny pools for loud crowds to goggle at them. Before that, their relationship with humans was difficult. They were disliked since they competed for fish with humans. They were also considered potentially dangerous. Whalers hunted them.

Aquariums and orca shows did both a service and a disservice to orcas. They obviously put individual orcas in conditions that were unhealthy for them, but they also changed the public perception of orcas as a species. Scientists learned a whole lot more about orca physiology when they got the chance to study live specimens at a close distance. The general public got to see how smart and awe-inspiring orcas are. They started to care about the well-being of these animals. This change in attitude was integral for ending the support for whaling, and ultimately the orca pools themselves.

>>5015192
I too enjoyed Free Willy

>>5015194
Nobody would've given a shit about Keiko or pushed for his freedom if it hadn't been for the movie that made him famous.
Keiko's case also highlights why it's a bad idea to do animal welfare work with pure emotion without looking at the cold facts. Keiko made it clear that he had no clue about how to live in the ocean, and he had a stronger bond with humans than with his own kind. Shame that the people with the emotional arguments won. Some captive orcas can be reintegrated to the ocean (Springer is known to be a successful case), but Keiko should've been allowed to stay with humans.

>>5010180 (OP)
My cat brings me dead animals. Is it really all that different?

>>5015192
Retarded revisionism. Man was far more aware of animals prior to the last ~100 years. Yes, this includes Orcas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Tom_(orca)
>The Law of Tongue was recognized as the "unspoken rule" between the Eden orcas and humans. This law refers to the process of whalers anchoring the whale carcass to either the bottom of the sea floor or in proximity to the shore, where the orcas feed on the carcass.[7] The primary target of the orcas on most species of whales, specifically the baleen whales,[6] are the tongue, the lips and the genital region.[7][6] The blubber and bones remain unharmed and are then used by the whalers.[7]

>The law of tongue dates back to indigenous Australian history, similarly to the food offering to the beowas by locals for generations.[16]

>>5010183
Zoos and aquariums should be banned

>>5015608
Hello, I am from Germany and I disagree with this post.

>>5010183
we used to do that with people too

>>5015532
Like saying "repeating arms have been in use since the 1600s".

>>5015608
Brainlet take