Now that the dust has settled, who was in the wrong here?

Is that george floyd?

>>5011079 (OP)
Baby sneed for being a retard
His retarded mother for being hoe scrolling her Snapchat and not paying attention
The zoo keepers for not trusting gentle Harambe with baby sneed's life

>>5011079 (OP)
The mother. The zoo acted appropietly.

>>5011079 (OP)
The crowd who chimped out and made Harambe too nervous to respond to handler commands.

>>5011079 (OP)
All they had to do was get the screaming retards out of there and let the situation de-escalate by itself

>>5011079 (OP)
harambe could have been the first human killing gorilla if it werent for those damn zookeepers
that ape was denied his true legacy

Humans. Harambe split the timeline.

>>5011079 (OP)

>>5011079 (OP)
Zoo for designing an enclosure where people may easily get in and they have to shoot animals when that happens.

>>5011079 (OP)
That kid was probably safer with Harambe than he was with his own mom and they still shot him

>>5011560
This is how I feel about it too

>>5011079 (OP)
It was an unfortunate accident.

I guess if I need to assign any blame at all, I’d say that kid was on his way to removing himself from the gene pool and very nearly succeeded. But you can’t really blame a child, kids do stupid shit all the time, he just happened to be unlucky enough to be in a time and place that his stupid fuckup got famous. He coulda nearly killed himself in lots of less newsworthy ways. I’m sure all of us have when we were four years old or whatever.

Should the mom have been watching him closer/ just plain raised him better? Yeah, maybe, but I hear she only looked away for two seconds while juggling several other kids, in a public place where she (erroneously) assumed they couldn’t get themselves into too much trouble. Again, bad luck. Parents can’t and probably shouldn’t literally hold their kids’ hands 24/7, they’re gonna turn around sometimes, and she was also unlucky that she did at a time when the kid was about to make what might continue to be the worst mistake of his life.

Do I think the zoo needed better safety features to prevent this? Absolutely not. I think “don’t let your kids bypass signage, crawl under a fence, and jump off a small cliff into a pit full of dangerous 500 pound animals” is a common sense expectation that they were not liable for.

And I’m not even going to begin to explain why Harambe is obviously blameless.

>>5011138
That’s a good point.

What do you guys think you woulda done if you were there just as a bystander?

>>5011521
Not “people,” small children specifically. An adult would have struggled to get in and probably would have been spotted and stopped in time.

>>5011634
Leave

the zoo was in the wrong. yes the nigger mother was also a retard but shes just a symptom. the real problem was the fact the zoo acted too hastily and came down to "we gotta kill it" as the result. Is that really the best outcome?
they could of tranq'd him. they could of waited it out. If the protocol for people falling into zoo exhibits is to kill the animal whats even the point of having the zoo at all? (sure I could see an exception if it was an obligate carnivore but thats not the point.)
we have failed as humans if our end result to solve a problem is death.

>>5011079 (OP)
the parent for not moderating their kid

>>5011643
>they could of tranq'd him
It'd have took a little time to kick in and they were worried that he'd destroy the child in the meantime.
That's the official story anyway.

>>5011079 (OP)
parents skill issue

>>5011079 (OP)
they should have offered him a basket of papayas and bananas in exchange for the child

the zoo, they should have observed and done nothing, if the gorilla does nothing to the child then cool, if he kills him, too bad, we could have had data on the behavior of a gorilla facing a human child but no, Harambe had to be killed to save the little retard

>>5011643
Animals don't know what a tranquilizer is and just because a dart was shot at you, doesn't mean it won't hurt and it would take 10 full minutes for it to start to work (if it does work).
picrel could very well have happened if he was shot to be tranquilized.

Also consider that Zoos and animals have extremely uphill battles when it comes to courts defending them in Court. Like w/ Tatiana the Tiger or that incident where a mother effectively tossed her child into the painted hound exhibit. Zoo officials were there at the time it happened and would be a serious lawsuit.

>>5011079 (OP)
the monkey

The niggress

he knew the truth about covid. he had to die

From a purely economic standpoint, Harambe would have generated far more income for the zoo and thus more taxes paid to the state, while the child that fell into the enclosure is statistically likely to end up on welfare or in prison.

>>5011719
>Tatiana the Tiger
>Shortly after closing time on December 25, 2007, Tatiana escaped from her open-air enclosure,[9][10] killing 17-year-old Carlos Eduardo Sousa Jr. and injuring brothers Amritpal "Paul" Dhaliwal and Kulbir Dhaliwal (19 and 23 years old, respectively). The three men had been witnessed throwing objects at and taunting the animal.
Why is it always jeets?

>>5011634
The Nordic Observer Stare™

>>5011829
kek

>>5011079 (OP)
Alright I just watched the footage and Harambe kept on dragging the child through the moat water while running and high speed. Of course it's retarded that the kid ended up being there to begin with, but I can understand why you would be a little bit worried that the boy might get ripped apart or hurt in other ways. It's far from the "the gorilla was just curious and wanted to take care of the child" or whatever I've heard about it without watching the video

>>5011875
He was curious and attempting to protect the child. It's just that a human baby is way less durable than a gorilla

>>5011634
I would have listened and that's what nobody did

>>5011626
Nigger

>>5011761
The fuckers were hanging around the zoo after closing time. They were drunk (two of them underage), high, and taunted the tiger. Actively hostile to the police afterwards.

>In 2009, a suit by the Dhaliwal brothers against the zoo was settled for $900,000 and one by Sousa's parents was settled on undisclosed terms.[37][38][39]

>Both Dhaliwal brothers subsequently got into trouble with the law.[40] Amritpal Dhaliwal died in 2012 at age 24

A somewhat happy ending.

>>5011904
>They got paid for being assholes who got what was coming to them
Unhappy ending.

>>5011079 (OP)
Harambe. If he hadn't used a fake $20 bill he'd still be alive today..

>>5011609
I do not pull the level because Harambe's death placed my country on the course to destruction.

>>5011079 (OP)
It reminds me of the recent Disney Cruise accident where a five year old decided to perch herself on a railing, fell overboard, and her dad had to jump ship after her.

What is it with little kids throwing themselves off of heights and into danger?

>>5011095
>>5011643
>>5011758
Ugh racism...never gets old with you people.

>>5015437
>you people
what do you mean by that

>>5011079 (OP)
The zoo staff for using live ammo instead of tranquilizers

>>5015690
Tranquilizers don't workike you see in the movies, they're extremely unpredictable.
The kid would've been torn to shreds the minute a dart hit his ass.

>>5011079 (OP)
Mother

>>5011560
This. My limited knowledge on the situation looked like Harambe went 'what is this? ah man its a baby human. don't worry kid, your safe with me'.

>>5011609
Harambe was greatly appreciated by the people of Cincinnati who regularly visited him

>>5011875
>It's far from the "the gorilla was just curious and wanted to take care of the child" or whatever I've heard about it without watching the video
He was initially curious and unsure. He became agitated when people started screaming and losing their shit. He wasn’t necessarily taking care of the kid but it was defensive behaviour, dragging babies around is normal for gorillas
https://youtu.be/in2vhatyeZU?si=CiilkYceqgZnrngU

>>5015437
>Ugh racism...never gets old with you peop-ACK

>>5017253
He started dragging the kid around by the leg. Which maybe could be adorable behavior if he were playing with a young gorilla, but what is safe for a hardy young gorilla isn’t necessarily safe for a scared confused fragile human child. Even if Harambe wasn’t trying to hurt the kid, there was a very real possibility he was gonna start breaking bones just by yanking him around. And that’s assuming he saw the kid as a fellow gorilla and not as a toy doll tossed in as enrichment that it’s okay to break.

>>5011099
/thread

>>5011626
>but I hear she only looked away for two seconds
all parents whose kids get lost or get into trouble "only looked away for two seconds". usually it means they were on the phone and hadn't even thought about the kid for 5+ minutes. you hear it a lot in supposedly supernatural disappearance cases. the two year old would have had to have made it 200m away even though the mother "only looked away for two seconds" therefore it was aliens etc etc

>>5017388
It's a gorilla. They're not retarded. It knows a kid vs a doll. As another said apes drag around baby gorillas. It's what they do. If the kid just stayed curled up and people didn't flip the fuck out and scare him the ape wouldn't have hurt the kid. Same for adults. They tell you to curl up and not look them in the eyes. It's a non-threatening posture and keeps the ape calm. If it sees a bunch of people screeching like retards and suddenly some retard's kid is in his cage he's gonna get rattled.

>>5011079 (OP)
The stupid fucking animal that wrecks shit, can't read, and has an IQ less than 80

>>5011560
He honestly looked like he was protecting or trying to help the lost little retard. Still I'd say a silverback could easily accidentally kill a human infant while trying to be helpful, but even if he was aggressive at least Gorillas literally openly "declare intent" and give you a fair chance to get the fuck out its house.

>>5017957
>The stupid fucking animal that wrecks shit, can't read, and has an IQ less than 80

But enough about you.

>>5017962
I was talking about the black, Rabbi

>>5017984
>I was talking about the black, Rabb-ACK

It was a lose lose situation from the get go. Even if the zoo had gone for a tranq it would have taken like 10 minutes for it to take effect, and in the moments leading up to that Harambe might have freaked out from the pain of being shot and hurt the kid by accident like falling over and crushing him. Considering he dragged the kid along the ground like mama gorillas do with their babies, even if we assume Harambe was acting protective, he could have hit the kid against the concrete or dislocated a limb or (if the kid had fainted from his injuries) drowned him in the mote. Personally I blame the panicking crowd for screaming and stressing out Harambe and thus making him more unpredictable.

>>5011079 (OP)
The zoo did the right thing in the moment. As much of a possibility there could have been to find a way to rescue the child and not kill Harambe, it wasn't worth the risk.

I will say the zoo ought to have put better guardrails or walls around the enclosure so it could have never happened. The fact a child was able to accidentally fall into an enclosure is just poor design on the zoo's part.

The parents do share blame in not watching over their children. It's a parents responsibility to watch over their kids to protect them. I do think a parent should expect a zoo to be "child safe" when they bring their kids there, though. Children frequent zoos constantly, so to make an enclosure where this scenario was even possible is just dumb.