Thread 5011570

For me is the Gerberian Shepsky. But i won't get one cause i am agressive with dogs.

The one and only.

AKC purebred shits are the actual designer dogs, as in, actually designed. They carefully inbreed them to "fix" traits and throw an autistic shitfit when you point out cancer, joint disorders, and epilepsy typically arise from inbreeding and "responsible" breeders neither know about nor understand nor test for every gene that causes issues.
>You INSIST I RUIN MY DOGS NOBLE BLOODLINE with OUTCROSSING? SON THESE HAVE BEEN PURE SINCE 1700...

"Designer dogs" and "backyard breeder" are terms they created to be used as derisives for people who simply breed healthy and non-deformed dogs, by associating them with worse mutant hellspawn from other breeding clubs like >>5011572

Maybe one day, hitler 2.0 will outlaw breeding any dog with health issues or a severe deformity like flat faces, wrinkly skin, excessively wide set legs, droopy ears, breakage prone whip tails, etc, but sadly that isn't today and the current trend is forced pitbull proliferation

>Nice german shepherds and huskies you guys have
>It would be a shame if...
>They were actually bred to be pets

>>5011583
>Hitler was jealous about his dogs and got irritated when they showed affection to other people.[24][25] The physician Ferdinand Sauerbruch claimed that in 1942 Hitler threatened to kill the dog Blondi because Sauerbruch played with it.[26][27]
>Hitler was very strict with his dogs, and got very angry when they disobeyed him.[29] He often used to beat them on such occasions.[30] Maria Reiter, a girl Hitler had dated in the late 1920s, told of an occasion where their dogs got into a fight, and then "Hitler suddenly intervened, like a maniac he hit his dog with his riding whip [...] and shook him violently by the collar."[31][32] When she asked him how he could be so brutal to his dog he said "it was necessary".[32]

>>5011583
I hate the doodle trend but I'd like to point out that some of the breeds which are crossed (cavalier king charles) are so fucked up as purebreds that their hearts fail before their fifth birthdays 90% of the time and they have brains too big for their skulls half the time, and it's so entrenched in the breed like collie eye anamoly that they don't know how to fix it

>>5011586
of course if your dogs fight you gotta discipline them, no wonder women let their pitbulls kill children, fuckin retards.

>>5011596
You don't beat the shit out of them anon. You seperate them and admonish them. The only time you would ever need to get physical with a dog is when they are a big breed that start to flare aggression unprompted at you. That's when the riding crop comes out.

>>5011586
I was referring to hitler's politics, not his actual behavior. It is widely understood, by now, that hitler's justice crusades were based on his own personal failings. The man was the type of totally expunge society of pedophiles because he felt guilty about all the 12 year olds he diddled. He did, after all, expel the jews because he himself was a weird, short, stateless, mentally ill mixed race man, and he spearheaded animal cruelty legislation and eradicated sexual deviance because he was cruel to animals and a sexual deviant. Sadly, the fact that he was so much like the jews and had no genuine connection to germany as a mixed race austrian without a cohesive family resulted in him doing exactly what he said the jews would do, and sacrificing an entire nation and its unique people and culture to strive towards his personal ideals.

Sometimes I wonder if it's even possible for a politician to care about neglected and deep issues unless they are part of the issue themselves.

>>5011595
Some breeds like dobermans and border collies just need to be cut off. Pick the few healthy individuals left, from bloodlines with high average lifespans, and use them as part of the foundation population for a do-over.

>>5011598
If I could I would get a Doberman in the future but the heart problems put me off. Even if the european stock somehow does not have it I would still be paranoid for potential cross lineages.

>>5011601
The original doberman was a working personal protection mutt. It's named for the man that bred them in his backyard using 4+ different breeds and constantly crossing different dogs in for instincts, health and intelligence.

Getting one of the various PPD/police k9 mutts is closer to adopting a real doberman, than adopting a doberman has been for over 100 years.

>>5011597
if two dogs fight fiercely it's impossible to separate them without being hard on them. i know because my two stupid dogs almost killed each other years ago.

>>5011596
yeah but that doesn't change all the times hitler whipped his dogs for not heeling quickly enough or got aggro with people for playing fetch with his dog

he was the untermensch he hated. 5'9" skinnyfat mixed race weak jawed and he needed ye olde HRT to get it up.

>>5011586
jewish lies

>>5011598
>Some breeds like dobermans and border collies just need to be cut off. Pick the few healthy individuals left, from bloodlines with high average lifespans, and use them as part of the foundation population for a do-over.
You don't say...

>>5011570 (OP)
Damn, he's beautiful.

>>5011598
>border collies just need to be cut off
What's wrong with Border Collies? I legit don't know, not challenging. The eye thing is the major one?

>>5011595
>I hate the doodle trend
The funny thing about the doodle trend is if you ask most of them why they picked that particular dog, they list poodle traits. And since the non-shedding tends to be so prioritized in doodles, they keep back breeding with poodles, so the result is just a poorly bred poodle rather than a well bred poodle. They'd be better off to go to a poodle breeder, get a well bred poodle, and then just give it a stupid teddy bear cut. Then they'd have a smarter, carefully bred, actually non-shedding rather than "sorta non-shedding" dog. From what I can tell the main reason people don't want to get a poodle is because they associate them with continental cuts.

>>5014836
>What's wrong with Border Collies? I legit don't know, not challenging. The eye thing is the major one?
They have a list:
>Hip Dysplasia
Not a good start
>Epilepsy
Alarmingly not uncommon
>CAE
You know the rest about eyes
>MDR1
Really fucked
>TNS
Exclusive to the breed and is turbo fucked
>Neural CL
Fucks up health AND causes personality problems

So yeah, Border collies are pretty bad in terms of health and their skull structures are very deformed. They also suffer with severe neuroticism. Imagine a poodle and then give that poodle the energy levels of a whippet in a field with no off switch. That's a Bordet Collie. They can also be quite aggresive and reactive to other dogs and I have known Border Collies attack other dogs unprompted when out on lead.

>>5014916
>breed dog for a job
>"see? its smart because it listens because i say so"
>it's actually severely mentally ill

>>5014916
>Dogs with the multidrug resistance 1 (MDR1) gene have severe and life-threatening reactions to some common drugs. Approximately three of every four collies in the United States have the mutant MDR1 gene.
>Neuronal ceroid lipofuscinosis (NCL), also known as Batten disease, is a group of neurodegenerative disorders that affect the nervous system. NCLs are a type of lysosomal storage disorder, and symptoms vary between forms but often include a combination of: Vision Loss, Dementia and Epilepsy
>Trapped neutrophil syndrome (TNS) is a common fatal genetic autosomal disorder that has only been found in Border Collies. With this condition, the bone marrow produces the neutrophils normally but they are not transferred to the blood where they are needed to fight illnesses. With such a low immune system, most puppies become sick and die by the time they are about four or five months old.
This is horrific. The fact that a dog breed can have this many genetic and nuerological disorders is just astonishing.

>>5015020
>>With this condition, the bone marrow produces the neutrophils normally but they are not transferred to the blood where they are needed to fight illnesses
>With such a low immune system, most puppies become sick and die
So you're telling me border collies are born with literal AIDs?

>>5015021
No, worse.

Aids is the destruction of cells which weakens the immune system as a whole. With TNS there is no destruction of the cells, the immune system is fully functional. But the white blood cells the immune system produces cannot fully enter the bloodstream. In effect you have a body with no white blood cells despite producing them while aids just has a reduced production of white blood cells across the board which can still enter the bloodstream. In effect you have no autoimmune response, you get a virus or bacterial illness and they explode in population within your blood vessels with almost no resistance. You are just a living, breathing viral incubator.

It is a horrible way to die.

>>5015025
>in effect2
Whoops

>>5011601
You might want to look into one of the out crossing programs the bite sports guys have been into. The Donovan Pinschers are gone because the guy was a psycho but Canis Panthers are still out there and gaining popularity if you don’t want a serious guard dog the Rock of Ages kennel literally had a bite sleeve burning ceremony a few years back and some jeet up in Canada is putting out “Best of Both Worlds” dogs which is basically just a Canis Panther with more solid coloring.

>>5011771
This is why I side with the outcrosses. Mix in some rott and pinscher which were in the foundation stock anyway and get rid of the health issues. You can breed them back to form from there.

>>5015112
>you can resume creating problems from there
purebred faggotry moment

perfect conformation is always a mistake
breed standards are written by double digit IQ rubes. dog breeds are made up and dont need to exist. the dogs local to where they are needed will naturally develop the traits they need. new zillun uses very mixed up mutts with no set form for their high performance sheepdogs.

Somehow, brindle mutts are the healthiest and objectively best dogs you can get

>>5015127
>Do what the kiwis do
Never a good idea