Thread 5020476 - /an/

Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:52:54 PM No.5020476
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why do speculative fags often criticise the future is wild, while praising books like after man or the new dinosaurs? both of these were made by dougal "hack" dixon.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:05:09 PM No.5020479
>>5020476 (OP)
The future is wild was the coolest shit I ever saw as a kid on new years but my friend kept switching the channel to south park or golf or some shit because his dad fell asleep on the couch
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:23:21 PM No.5020485
>>5020476 (OP)
I loved those brown grey blue swamp octopussies and the blue birds.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:50:24 AM No.5020805
dixon's books are regarded as a curiosity from the 90s, nothing more. they themselves are highly inaccurate and flamboyant depictions of future evolution, based more on the wow factor than any sort of scientific credibility, because it pays more to do scientific entertainment than scientific research (especially on a topic where entertainment is the only way to get money out of it).
as for the future is wild, my guess is that being more popular than dixon's books because it was a television series and thus more people watched it, then more people took notice and criticized it.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:54:27 AM No.5020806
>>5020479
Did you suck dicks?
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 4:41:33 PM No.5020890
>>5020805
Specevo is all pure worldbuilding bullshit dude, there is no legitimate science behind any of it
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:58:59 PM No.5020981
>>5020806
No retarded fag freak
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 9:39:08 PM No.5020991
>>5020476 (OP)

All those works are criticised anon. Especially The New Dinosaurs, which was inaccurate and uncanny valley even for it's time
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:21:29 PM No.5021022
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>The last mammals on earth are being farmed...
>by SPIDERS
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:36:19 PM No.5021027
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>>5020476 (OP)
I like Future is Wild a lot, but objectively its predictions are pulled straight out of its ass and very arbitrary - especially in the last few epochs.
>HURR MAMMALS GO EXTINCT EXCEPT FOR ONE MOUSE THAT'S FARMED BY A SPIDER
Why? There's no explanation for why placenta mammals - which is an extremely successful reproductive strategy - would just all go extinct, and even less of an explanation for how the spider started farming the mouse to begin with. It's a cool idea, but it's logically bankrupt.
>HURR FISH REPLACE BIRDS BUT GO EXTINCT IN THE OCEAN
Fucking why? The former is a sure why not, but the latter makes no sense.
>MOLLUSKS BECOME THE DOMINANT FORM OF LIFE
Again, why? What adaptations or biology result sin them surviving vs anything else?

Future is Wild's biggest problem is it doesn't understand mass extinctions or evolution. If you ask Future Is Wild, mass extinctions happen because of some natural disaster and not because certain species/forms of life have a time bomb in their biology that's waiting to go off. Dinosaurs, for example, didn't "go extinct because of an asteroid impact", they went extinct because they were dependent on large amounts of food being available at any given time which the asteroid fucked over. Anything that could make do with less food for longer periods survived. And then when it comes to evolution, new forms of life are evolving at a consistent rate. But Future Is Wild portrays evolution as a last man standing, where anything that doesn't go extinct never becomes something new and instead just slots in to some pre-existing niche with minimal changes.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:40:24 PM No.5021031
>>5021027
The basis for every evolutionary leap in TFIW is:
>what is a fucking sick idea that is somewhat shocking and WILD
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:12:05 AM No.5021075
>>5021027
things like the carakillers coming from falcons, straight up losing the ability to flight to become dollar store terror birds, is absolutely ridiculous. flight is simply too good to lose, and when birds did, it was for exceptional situations in which they occupied a void niche.
also, why the fuck are birds from 100 million years in the future still roughly similar to the ones of today, while the ones from 5 million years in the future turned into molerats?
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:55:41 PM No.5021367
>>5021075

To be fair birds lose the ability to fly all the time, even in environments with predators (i.e. ostriches and other ratites).

Flight loss is only an issue in regards to bats, volaticotheres and pterosaurs, which had complex membranous wings and energy-efficient launching
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:04:32 PM No.5021408
>>5021367
Ostriches never quite lost their flight, they're struthiomiformes that came from already flightless birds hailing from the paleocene
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:18:49 PM No.5021478
>>5021027
>"go extinct because of an asteroid impact"
Tbf I bet quite a few species did get entirely vaporized by the impact kek
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 1:41:09 AM No.5021553
Books have decent art (generally better than modern books) and fairly good writing, aimed at moderately smart people.
TV show had pretty terrible CGI (much worse than modern shows) and typical TV writing, aimed at lowest common denominator.
The science is equally dubious in both, but the books just look better, especially to modern audiences.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 3:42:34 PM No.5021758
>>5021408

But those birds in turn flew. Hell the Oligocene proto-ostrich Eogrus could still fly