Getting Rid of Autism - /b/ (#935807927) [Archived: 1025 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:31:04 PM No.935807927
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Lets be honest, most of you here are spergs with the 'tism.
Has anyone ever found a way to get rid of it or at least mitigate the symptoms?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:36:09 PM No.935808056
learning you probably had autism your whole life after 30 is a tough pill to swallow. it's like finding out you were walking around with a booger on your lip all day and you didn't find out until you got home and looked in the mirror why everyone was looking at you weird all day. I hate it. I haven't found a way to make things better they only get worse
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:45:39 PM No.935808311
>>935808056
>I haven't found a way to make things better they only get worse
Really, nothing at all? That sucks. I haven't been officially diagnosed and most people probably wouldn't think I have it, but I'm sure I do.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:48:12 PM No.935808372
>>935807927 (OP)
I'd say that's an over-estimation. With that said, look u the nature between diet and da 'tism.
you'll find your own way from there. Many people improve significantly, but you still have to change your habits to some degree. If you want to be social, you have to socialize.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:02:31 PM No.935808814
>>935808372
I assume you're referring to these gut microbiome studies
https://today.usc.edu/usc-scientists-find-a-gut-brain-link-that-may-affect-behavior-in-children-with-autism/
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:06:05 PM No.935808938
wimpy kid autism scale
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>>935807927 (OP)
>>935808056
>>935808372
>>935808814
This and therapy are the only palliatives
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:16:14 PM No.935809224
>>935808938
Very based, saving this. I was a Rowley in middle/high school now I'm a Greg and hate my life. Maybe I'll be a Rowley again
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:19:01 PM No.935809323
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>>935809224
It's tough to accept that we'll never be normal and that we have to expect more rejection than the average person, but there is a path for us
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:19:52 PM No.935809347
>>935808056
I didn't figure out until my 30s either because I mask so well.
I've stopped masking do much and i feel a lot better. Not giving a fuck and just being odd has not only made my life easier but people seem to be more friendly now.
Idk it's hard to explain.

>>935807927 (OP)
I don't think you can.
I have resentment that no one spotted it sooner in my life and help but oh well. What can you do?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:33:35 PM No.935809819
>>935809347
OP here, I got tested as a kid and they said I didn't have it. I've lived a decent life but doubt I don't have it based on my childhood.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:54:28 PM No.935810529
>>935809819
Misdiagnosis happens all the time.
I would do it but I'd have to find a clinician who not a dumbass and understands high masking adult autism.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:56:04 PM No.935810585
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Generous guys, you know where to find me. emaquiie
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:57:26 PM No.935810645
>>935810585
Kys
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:58:23 PM No.935810687
>>935809819
ask your parents when you hit your early milestones, like walking and first words
if you hit them months later than usual it could be an indicator
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:17:15 PM No.935811361
>>935810687
Starting talking and walking around like 8 months
At times I believe my social issues were caused by much higher than average IQ rather than autism
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:25:05 PM No.935811683
>>935811361
huh, maybe it's something else then
don't get into the IQ rabbit hole, it makes people arrogant and insufferable
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:28:55 PM No.935813884
>>935811361
If you're very intelligent, it's probably not autism. Being smarter than your peers growing up means that you don't learn the right social skills at the appropriate age/with those who are your age. This likely leads to social isolation etc which just means you're socially retarded, which IS fixable but is hard to overcome
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:31:49 PM No.935813971
Autism just means you are a dissident to the state and therefore labeled for genocide. There are many other labels, but this is one of the gonocided groups.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:35:41 PM No.935814098
>>935813884
I forgot to say, look up healthygamergg. He's a Harvard Medical School trained psychiatrist who practices and has lots of free coaching videos on youtube on how to learn social skills etc you may have missed out on when growing up
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:01:42 PM No.935815002
you don't
there's no mitigation
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:05:18 PM No.935815118
What if there's a drug that cures autism
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:18:47 PM No.935815634
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>>935808938
Went from Rowley to Greg after elementary school and never recovered.
Funny enough I've came to similar conclusions and envy my current one friend I have whom I'd like to think of as a Rowley.
I envy him because he fully embraces his vices and interests like lizards and furshit. Explores things with no bounds basically.
As a result he is my one and only friend while he has a full tribe of online autists with similar interests that they unashamedly explore.
I tried to go the path of "fully embracing" something, but I'm no longer able to.
Not sure what to do.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:32:53 PM No.935816152
>>935815634
>Went from Rowley to Greg after elementary school and never recovered.
Fucking same, I was a really extroverted kid, completely flipped in middle school
>I tried to go the path of "fully embracing" something, but I'm no longer able to.
What do you mean?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:34:07 PM No.935816202
>>935815118
I would take it in a heartbeat to be honest
>>935814098
>healthygamergg
Generic health guru trying to sell you a course
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:42:01 PM No.935816465
>>935807927 (OP)
Mostly just be aware of what you do and wear a mask over it. Eventually the mask will feel natural and you'll come to enjoy the ability to intact with others.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:44:31 PM No.935816552
>>935816152
Like the friend I mentioned. He is out there, freely talking about interests and pursuing them without shame or reservations.
He is weird publicly not to the degree where normies would outright reject him though. He is honest about his wants and open about his interests.

I could never do this. I tried doing this with card games and stuff recently, but even then I still held back and downplayed or outright denied it when interacting with normies.
Same for general power level or other interests.
I actually actively deny myself from even pursuing them. It's like my brain has been trained to deny things I enjoyed because throughout my youth I received negative feedback for it every time.
Despite seeing people out in the wild who fully embody what I would prefer to be I can't even force myself anymore.
The shame has been internalized to such a degree.
Fear is like a shackle and I can't be open about anything with anyone. I see normies sharing things I would never do, or giving opinions I wouldn't dare give and they are just fine.
I'm sure I'm afraid of it because of past experience.
Kinda like how a beaten dog behaves.

Not too shocking since I was literally beaten regularly in elementary school and was a full blown outcast in highschool. As a kid even going home my dad would beat the shit out of me because I wasn't interested in normal stuff.
My mom would sneak me yugioh cards and bionicles though.

TL:DR; Fully embracing something or oneself for me would mean being open about my interests without shame. Basically the be yourself meme.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:51:29 PM No.935816791
HAVE YOU TRIED HATING NIGGERS
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:52:17 PM No.935816825
>>935816202
ive never been able to use the sub reddit as it mostly seems to be a garbage dump for people looking to get 'advice' or advice as in things they want to be told
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:54:57 PM No.935816909
>>935816552
I'm sorry to hear about that, especially the beatings, you're a strong person for trying to push yourself after trauma like that
What about small steps or more normie hobbies? Like you could get into chess or cinema
Or on the other end of the spectrum, maybe you can show curiosity for your friend's interests and try to explore that side?
>>935816825
Yeah places like that always end up as pity parties
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:56:13 PM No.935816952
>>935807927 (OP)
Nope. Mine is getting worse if anything. This board does not help.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:58:35 PM No.935817033
>>935816909
>Or on the other end of the spectrum, maybe you can show curiosity for your friend's interests and try to explore that side?
I've considered this the most. I'll need to work through some mental barriers first, but this is likely the best path.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:04:10 PM No.935817233
>>935817033
You have a friend, that can be a valuable anchor and launchpad for more connections
Don't be overbearing though, if he's not interested I wouldn't push it
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:05:20 PM No.935819304
>>935816202
Dihexa made my autism go away. Well not entirely but I felt these emotions that I hadn't felt before and suddenly understood why people don't like to be annoyed or condescended to
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:15:24 PM No.935819662
>>935819304
why not?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:37:19 PM No.935820585
>>935819662
it has to do with the way a particular nerve vibrates. It fixes autism by re-growing the brain.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:50:37 PM No.935821029
>>935819662
i'm not even sure if i'm still sperging, i've got an almost perfect 180 iq on multiple iq tests (iq is a spectrum, 180 is very high), i've gotten full scholarships to college, i'm almost 1
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:29:17 PM No.935822387
>>935816552
>It's like my brain has been trained to deny things I enjoyed because throughout my youth I received negative feedback for it every time.
Literally this times 1000. This shit makes life so debilitating.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:30:27 PM No.935825026
>>935820585
bro science level 1000
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:35:59 PM No.935825237
>>935807927 (OP)
Discipline.
Following directions of others who are trying to help.
Like teaching a new skill whether I’m interested or not.
Just pretending.
Asking questions about subtext and clarification during conversation.
Using the discipline to be patient.
Being polite regardless of how I feel.
Telling white lies to spare people’s feelings.
Being more agreeable.
Just a few things off the top of my head
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:36:30 AM No.935827594
Bump
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:30:59 AM No.935829643
get really fit.
it might not fix your autism, but some girls are going to tolerate it because you are the rare fit man
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:10:24 AM No.935831165
>>935829643
This for sure.
Being fit and not terribly ugly is privilege. But it’s attainable for most.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:03:14 AM No.935833348
>>935829643
>>935831165
yeah like it's fucking easy
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:05:31 AM No.935833456
>>935807927 (OP)
holy shit get diagnosed and have insurance pay for micro expression analysis glasses, literally mind reading power. supposedly a cheat code for all conversations.
I think of it as having women social skills upgrade.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:08:48 AM No.935833601
>>935833456
huh??
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:12:56 AM No.935833765
>>935833601
micro expression is the anayliss of faces in minute details generally not visible or noticed by people, but high res cameras can see the change of micro hairs on your face,
extrapolate blood pressure, tensing muscles, twitch; just stuff you or i generally do not see, i argue that women can and have always been able to, but if you are autistic you can get them they are made for people that have trouble decerning emotions. mind reading glasses better than x-ray specs.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:17:18 AM No.935833934
>>935807927 (OP)
Stop interacting with normies.
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chromosomejimmy
6/16/2025, 3:25:32 AM No.935834291
your always going too be you can't unretard yourself your just a retard embrace it and learn how to cope and be aware and comfortable socially as yourself and put yourself out there in the world and have social interactions through awkward trail and error you'll find out a proper way too mask and be able too connect with people better while being yourself without having too mask too much.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:37:13 AM No.935834807
>>935807927 (OP)
You never get rid of autism. You just get better at acting like everyone else. I'm 34 now, got diagnosed very early on in life. Horribly bullied throughout school due to being a complete sperg.

Today you would never even know that I'm on the spectrum unless I told you. The majority of people in my life have no idea that I'm autistic. Only my immediate family and a few close friends have any idea. I got extremely good at masking.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:59:39 AM No.935835761
>>935833348
not easy, but shedding your autism will be much harder
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:14:09 AM No.935836235
>>935807927 (OP)
As someone who studies autism, this thread made me very sad. I hope we can better educate people about Autism so that people like the anons in this thread don't have to think and feel the way they do.

That Diary of A Wimpy Kid graph is sad, too, because it completely misses the point of the entire story, and in effect actually delivers the opposite message. The point of the whole series was that life is unpredictable and stupid, it's absurd, and sometimes the rules are made up and don't make any sense whatsoever. People will hate you for literally any reason, even if there was absolutely nothing wrong with you, and the most important thing is how you approach those feelings, and react to those people and these situations.
You guys should really READ that book series.

I'd ignore the gut microbiome route. The data in all studies I've read is super inconclusive, none of it factors ARFID or other things that tend to coexist with Autism, so overall the link is tenuous. Mouse studies are also super tenuous, because we cannot distinctly prove that a mouse has Autism. Instead, we give the mouse "Autism-Like" symptoms through selective breeding or genetic engineering, and then study different questions based on those behaviors, I.e repetitive behaviors, food avoidance, etc. In neurotoxicology, they take "healthy" lab mice, and expose them to lots of chemicals, either in the womb, or in a controlled cage, to see if they develop "Autism-Like" symptoms.

Over the last few decades, understanding and acceptance of Autism has grown, and it's become clear that far more people throughout history were autistic, without ever being diagnosed due to a lack of understanding. It's hard to quantify if the things happening in your life are due to Autism, or due to other behaviors. Being social is a skill for EVERYONE, everybody needs to learn how to do it correctly. People with Autism will struggle with it a little more, but as long as you're being honest, things go well.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:56:24 AM No.935839506
>>935833934
not an option
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:56:42 AM No.935839524
bump.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:35:23 AM No.935840768
Yeah: bump and dont regret. Understanding the mind makes it easier
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:02:46 AM No.935841715
>>935807927 (OP)
Masking is something that you can definitely learn through concerted effort. It takes a lifetime of attention to detail and observation. The big areas to focus on are your hygiene and adherence to social norms about discussing sexual/very taboo topics. Everything else is secondary.

The biggest thing that I had to unlearn to be able to connect with most people was an innate sense that I was extremely intelligent. Most autistic folks I have met ARE of above average intelligence, but if you let it make you seem arrogant to others, people will very quickly not want to be around you. That may or may not apply to you, but it's worth mentioning. Take a shower, be polite, and keep humble. Try not to talk about extremely weird shit/sexual things with people you are not close with. You will always be a bit different than others. Do not shy away from this, it is your essence. It is who you are at your core, and the people who are worth spending your time around will appreciate the things that make you a bit different. I joke about having tism' Rizz, but it's very real. Romantic partners (who are not shallow) are looking for someone who breaks up the monotony. If you can be a little different and still be confident in yourself and a nice person who is fun to be around (and you took a shower, per my instructions), they will flock to you and want to be around you.
Might catch flack for saying this, but idgaf. Worth mentioning that this website specifically, and internet culture at large can breed lots of hateful attitudes. Sexism, racism, homophobia, transphobia, all this type of shit is poison. For you and others in your community, but ESPECIALLY for your social prospects. People don't want to be around someone who doesn't respect them. Duh. So, if you sincerely hold any of these beliefs, do some serious self-reflection and consider trying to let go of that. Everyone you've ever met is likely just trying their best to be happy.

Keep your chin up, OP.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:24:56 AM No.935842569
>>935807927 (OP)
I don't talk about my interests or hobbies with people, even if i think they'd be interested. i go to the bathroom if im feeling overstimulated in a situation, and if anyone gets suspicious I tell them I'm a sociopath learning how to have empathy.

tldr: i leave people alone and in the odd chance they try to pick I misdirect them.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:39:42 AM No.935842982
>>935841715
and unicorns are real
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:00:18 AM No.935843607
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I took an human eye reading test expecting it would confirm i have no clue what people, particularly women are thinking based on their facial expressions.
It basically provided the opposite of what I expected. I know its an online bullshit test, but I have never had any idea what women are thinking. Always gotrejected when i think they are interested and never noticed any instance of them being interested in me, but did have a couple of times when they were on the front foot blatantly asking me out.

I think my issue is more the entirety of growing up i was very shy, bullied, had difficulty making male friends who all literally moved away within a year. Even worse with female interactions, so just figured i was a hideous abomination since that was the only data points i had.
end blog
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:43:27 AM No.935847337
>>935843607
Where did you do this?
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:56:16 AM No.935847561
>>935807927 (OP)
Autist here.
The only time I felt "normal" was the few times I've been on LSD.
It sort of connects my shit in a normal way and I have a few hours where I rethink my life and sort my shit out.
Haven't done it in a long time now, I kind of want to do it again but I think I'm too anxious now I've got older.

The autism never leaves you. Its just something you eventually accept and try to use in a way advantageous to you.
You could go to a doctor and get meds but that can mess you up in other ways. I had an ADHD friend start taking medication and go through some episodes because he realised his entire personality was just his ADHD. When he was on Ritalin he felt like he wasnt himself.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:16:04 AM No.935847836
>>935821029
>i've got an almost perfect 180 iq on multiple iq tests
What was the Standard Deviation (SD=denoted by "lowercase-sigma" [u+03c3])? What were these IQ tests? Who administered these "multiple iq tests", was it multiple people? Were they proctored by anyone (at all)?
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:59:11 AM No.935848494
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>>935808938
sweet lord that is a physically and mentally damaging picture to look at
that in my own way i was rowley through most of my early teens before inevetably moving on to becoming greg
maybe even for most of that through my teens i lived as rowley with the mindset of greg
horrably ignorant moment to moment of the phopas i spout and engage in while thinking im better than the fregleys and unabashed rowleys i saw around me
i remember people most of my life telling me i acted older than i actually was with them being surprised half the time i tell them how old i actually was
with that feeding into my perception of being a normal person who wasnt unable to meaningfully connect with someone past situational small talk in passing
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:59:28 AM No.935848502
>>935807927 (OP)
Autism can be useful at least you are good at something
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:27:25 PM No.935849069
>>935848502
Most of us aren't savants anon.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:37:51 PM No.935849261
>>935848502
Give me one positive trait (don't tell me "positive" is subject, it's not.) that the majority (≥50%) of autistic (ASD having) people have in greater magnitude than the majority (≥50%) of "allistic" (normal, not autistic, without any disorder) people.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:01:34 PM No.935850693
>>935849261
Pattern recognition
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:08:16 PM No.935850834
>>935850693
I obviously meant substantive evidence, i.e. a (peer-reviewed) paper, article, primary or secondary source...etc.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:10:57 PM No.935850885
>>935808938
Most powerful pic posted in a while thanks anon, saving this
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:43:38 PM No.935851413
>>935842569
Telling people you are a sociopath is A) not something a true sociopath would ever do, and B) is arguably worse than telling people you are just a little autistic/awkward
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:56:06 PM No.935851703
>>935807927 (OP)
there is no cure. autism is a disorder of higher intelligence. some people luck out and become brilliant. autists did not have the correct brain structure for this higher intelligence, which turns it into a liability.
think if intelligence as a tower. if you have strong foundations (brain structure) then you can build an arbitrarily high tower. but if the foundation is not strong, the higher the tower, the more likely it is to collapse into autism and schizophrenia. the brain and the mind have become too complex and cognitively loaded. humans did not evolve to have recursive thought. we hacked the mind (women did, see Eve Theory of Concioussnes) and while its been a boon for humanity, many humans are not wired well for it.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:01:30 PM No.935851829
>>935848502
very lucky autists are still more intelligent than the general population, but that is only because their normal intelligence if not autistic would have been astonishing.
even at 50% efficiency they have more cognition than average joe.
its same because the high prevalence of autism suggests an upper limit to cognition. brain hardware needs to be expanded by artificial means.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:03:17 PM No.935851878
>>935851703
There's more to consciousness than just self-awareness.
I've also argued with a lot of autists on this website that are honestly pretty stupid. They believe in conspiracy theories, are racist, can't think systemically, and are just overall social rejects. For good reason to because who wants to be friends with an angry, close-minded loser.
I suspect I'm autistic myself and I'm pretty intelligent yet mask well. But I don't think intelligence precedes the development of neurodivergence nor brings the existence of these conditions any merit.
On other hand, most humans are stupid in general. Regardless of mental illness, neurodiversity, or personality. And just because someone has a high IQ score or advanced credentials they can still be a moron.
I think intelligence is a quality that's actually hard to really measure but you know it when you see it. And it tends to "specialize" in certain domains of life. Like language, mathematics, science, art, etc. It isn't one monolithic criteria.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:13:20 PM No.935852107
>>935851878
IQ is pretty reliable at scoring intelligence. generally if you are really smart, you are good at many things. you simple have more cognitive power to work with. of course some people outperform in one domain beyond what their IQ score would suggest is their ability. this is true for highly intelligent people and the Rain Mans of the world.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:35:25 PM No.935852572
>>935852107
IQ tests offer a narrow snapshot of a complex, multidimensional trait. They emphasize pattern recognition and abstract reasoning, skills useful in academic contexts, but ignore emotional intelligence, creativity, practical problem-solving, and cultural nuance.
High scores often reflect test-taking ability and socioeconomic privilege more than innate cognitive power. Intelligence is not a single “power” but a network of capacities shaped by environment, motivation, and context.
IQ predicts performance in some domains, but mistaking the map for the terrain oversimplifies what it means to be “smart.”
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:51:58 PM No.935852970
>>935852572
nonetheless, high IQ correlates with greater success in life, higher incomes, probably other things. it is a useful barometer even if it doesnt tell the whole picture.
a PRETTY GOOD metric is better than none at all. that doesnt mean you cant augment IQ with with other cognitive tests. I like the Big 5 personality test. i scored very high on language intelligence, which I feel is accurate. a lot of my family members are lawyers, a discipline where verbal intelligence shines. im too much of a fuck-up to be a lawyer lol. but i think i write pretty well.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:10:19 PM No.935853445
>>935850693
Pattern recognition is a basic human trait. Do you think normies can't perceive patterns?
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:10:51 PM No.935853470
>>935851413
>true sociopath would ever do
Sociopaths don't even exist, they're like vampires, the closest thing to a sociopath is someone high in psychopathy (a clinical, [acknowledged by the DSM V and I think the ICD 11] forensic [PCL-R] and research [PCL-R, PCL-SV...etc] ) construct: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy#Definition and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_Checklist
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:12:29 PM No.935853514
>>935852970
IQ measures the horsepower of the engine, not how you drive, or where you're going. Correlation with "success" reflects societal biases more than innate worth. A "pretty good" metric that ignores creativity, grit, context, and meaning may mislead more than it illuminates.
Not to mention the issues with the metric that I addressed in the aforementioned post,
>>935852572
The narrative that success is determined by hard work erases the nuance of privelege that exists to allow success to even occur.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:15:14 PM No.935853589
>>935851703
Autists average <70 IQ, and ~50% of them qualify for mental retardation; Only 2% of autists have IQ >115, compared to "normies" who are 16% (average for European in origin) >115.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:16:33 PM No.935853629
>>935807927 (OP)
>trying to get rid of a condition universally regarded as being biological in nature
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:17:17 PM No.935853655
>>935851878
>And just because someone has a high IQ score or advanced credentials they can still be a moron.
Only due to test inaccuracy; Just because someone believes in something you don't (even something incorrect) that doesn't mean they're always stupid.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:18:01 PM No.935853671
>>935850693
>Pattern recognition
Ah, yes, the autistic pattern recognition cope, which is a skill they use to better recognize different types of trains
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:33:38 PM No.935854068
intelligence
intelligence
md5: face3f9e414e0c4fab0f04b8119411e4🔍
>>935852572
>IQ tests offer a narrow snapshot of a complex, multidimensional trait.
You are stupid.
>They emphasize pattern recognition and abstract reasoning
No, they don't here's a list of sub dimension for the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Test IV: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattell%E2%80%93Horn%E2%80%93Carroll_theory#Broad_and_narrow_abilities also see: picrel
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:36:01 PM No.935854128
>>935854068
No they don't,* | sub-dimensions*
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:49:44 PM No.935854508
>>935854068
Listing subtests doesn’t refute the core critique, it proves it.
The fact that IQ had to be split into numerous "broad and narrow abilities" only underscores that intelligence is multidimensional and context-bound.
Packaging complexity into a single number may serve bureaucracies, but it flattens nuance and misleads more than it informs.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:55:32 PM No.935854688
>>935854508
>Listing subtests doesn’t refute the core critique, it proves it.
The fact that IQ had to be split into numerous "broad and narrow abilities" only underscores that intelligence is multidimensional and context-bound
No, it doesn't; Do you see those numbers preceded by "."s, they're correlations; All of these abilities are correlated under one factor (g,PCA 1, general intelligence, the g factor), see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principal_component_analysis#Intelligence
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:57:06 PM No.935854731
>>935854688
Pointing to g as the first principal component doesn’t prove it captures the essence of intelligence, it just shows it's the strongest statistical trend in a test designed to find it.
PCA finds structure because it’s built to; that doesn’t mean g is biologically real or that it maps cleanly onto intelligence in the wild.
Intelligence isn't reducible to a single vector any more than health is reducible to blood pressure. Statistical convenience isn’t ontological truth.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:02:48 PM No.935854928
IQ brain
IQ brain
md5: a0a5c13cf955e8797d7491ded29654a8🔍
>>935854731
> first principal component doesn’t prove it captures the essence of intelligence, it just shows it's the strongest statistical trend in a test designed to find it.
Yes, how does this refute g or IQ??? It absolutely captures the essence of intelligence (it IS intelligence, by definition).
>PCA finds structure because it’s built to; that doesn’t mean g is biologically real or that it maps cleanly onto intelligence in the wild.
What do you think intelligence is, then; Do YOU have a better definition (one that psychologists will accept). g is biologically real BTW: picrel.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:05:20 PM No.935855021
>>935807927 (OP)
Diagnosis came at like 34. It was unintentional. It also wasn't shocking. But I had already figured shit out quite a bit by then.
Honestly the answer isn't different from anyone else.
You build a community that works for you. The whole world doesnt hate you. Find your corner. Thats it.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:06:57 PM No.935855086
>>935854928
What hes saying is this is such a nuanced complex issue with so many variables it's hard to reduce it this way.
I know it makes sense to you, but that doesnt make it factual. Keep in mind astrology has done so well for thousands of years because of how garbage human perception is and how real it can feel.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:08:48 PM No.935855153
>>935854928
You're mistaking correlation for essence. The biological correlates you posted show some association between brain efficiency and IQ scores, not proof that g is the “essence” of intelligence.
That’s like saying a bigger engine proves horsepower is the soul of driving skill, it may help, but it’s not the whole system.

As for PCA: it forces a one-factor solution if variance clusters, that doesn’t mean that factor is a real entity.
It’s a mathematical artifact summarizing commonality, not a discrete thing you can poke in the brain. g is a statistical regularity, not a singular “thing” like a heart or liver.
IQ doesn't equal intelligence. IQ is a psychometric estimate of performance on culturally shaped tasks. Intelligence, as many psychologists argue (including Robert Sternberg and Howard Gardner), is plural; contextual, adaptive, and expressed in many forms: practical, creative, emotional, even moral.
g may predict some academic or job success, but that’s not the same as capturing the "essence" of human intelligence.
Put simply: being measurable doesn’t make it fundamental. And being biologically correlated doesn’t make it ontologically complete.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:20:58 PM No.935855595
>>935816202
>Generic health guru
Just False

>trying to sell you a course
Maybe? Plenty of value in his yt vids tho.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:21:37 PM No.935855614
>>935855086
>What hes saying is this is such a nuanced complex issue with so many variables it's hard to reduce it this way.
Hard does not mean impossible; Don't try to diminish the thousands to tens of thousands of researcher involved in IQ (g).
>I know it makes sense to you, but that doesnt make it factual.
I'm not claiming that what "makes sense to me" is factual, I am claiming that IQ does a statistically amazing job (the greatest psychometric test).
>Keep in mind astrology has done so well for thousands of years because of how garbage human perception is and how real it can feel.
Don't compare real science to Astrology; Extraordinary claims (IQ is pseudo-science = Astrology) require extraordinary evidence (toppling the entire field of IQ research), you are engaging in creationist-level science denial.
>>935855153
>The biological correlates you posted show some association between brain efficiency and IQ scores, not proof that g is the “essence” of intelligence.
Define "essence" then; I never used the term essence once (other than in greentext).
>As for PCA: it forces a one-factor solution if variance clusters, that doesn’t mean that factor is a real entity.
If the correlations are low (and there's low construct validity), then it wouldn't be a thing (all cognitive abilities correlate positively with g).
>It’s a mathematical artifact summarizing commonality, not a discrete thing you can poke in the brain. g is a statistical regularity, not a singular “thing” like a heart or liver.
I never claimed otherwise.
>IQ doesn't equal intelligence. IQ is a psychometric estimate of performance on culturally shaped tasks.
explain the the fact that the white-minority IQ difference increases with culture reduced/free tests.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:27:37 PM No.935855815
>>935855614
Yes, g is statistically robust, but predictive power isn’t the same as conceptual completeness. PCA finds patterns, not truths; g summarizes correlations, but it’s not the full story of intelligence. Intelligence is adaptive, contextual, and expressed in diverse ways, IQ tests sample a narrow slice.
Culture-free tests still show group gaps not because they remove all bias, but because inequality runs deeper than language. Pointing to brain correlates or statistical strength doesn’t make g the “essence” of intelligence it just makes it a useful, limited tool.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:33:44 PM No.935856013
one g IQ
one g IQ
md5: f38f51a7335f2fddcb6faf4616d7417c🔍
>>935855815
>predictive power isn’t the same as conceptual completeness.
It matters a whole lot more than vague "conceptual completeness".
>PCA finds patterns, not truths
It pretty much does find "truths", how else would you describe real associations (fake maybe?).
>Intelligence is adaptive, contextual, and expressed in diverse ways, IQ tests sample a narrow slice.
You still haven't defined your nebulous version of "intelligence" or it's "essence".
>Culture-free tests still show group gaps not because they remove all bias, but because inequality runs deeper than language.
I never said they remove all bias, but they (just like the rest of IQ tests) don't really have bias (due to DIF and Factorial invariance measures).
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:37:27 PM No.935856131
>>935856013
>Predictive power matters more than conceptual completeness
Prediction helps, but it’s not the same as understanding. A speedometer isn’t a map.

>PCA finds “truths”
It finds patterns in test data not causes. Statistical structure doesn't equal biological essence.

>Define intelligence
Intelligence is adaptive problem-solving across contexts, creative, emotional, practical. IQ tests miss most of that.

>IQ tests aren’t biased
DIF and invariance help, but they don’t erase cultural, motivational, or systemic bias. The test reflects the world it's built in.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:48:32 PM No.935856510
big five IQ
big five IQ
md5: 0dedb6570cca6df65cf92336721ddbe3🔍
>>935856131
>Prediction helps, but it’s not the same as understanding. A speedometer isn’t a map.
I didn't say prediction was understanding, I said it was better (provides more for everyone).
>It finds patterns in test data not causes. Statistical structure doesn't equal biological essence.
In that post I wasn't talking about "biological essence", is that what you meant by "essence of intelligence"?
>Intelligence is adaptive problem-solving across contexts, creative, emotional, practical. IQ tests miss most of that.
They definitely don't; IQ correlates positively with creativity and emotional temperament.
>DIF and invariance help, but they don’t erase cultural, motivational, or systemic bias. The test reflects the world it's built in.
Explain to me how you can have groups responding the same on individual questions/test batteries, and the only explainable variation on how you answer is total test score (IQ, g), i.e. black, Asian and white people at the same IQ levels respond the same (not statistically significant differences), but it's biased.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:01:43 PM No.935856898
>>935856510
>Prediction is better than understanding
Better for utility, maybe, not for meaning. Prediction without understanding risks misapplication and false confidence.

>Was “essence” biological?
No, essence referred to what intelligence fundamentally is, not what it correlates with. Correlation does not equal definition.

>IQ correlates with creativity and emotion
Weakly, inconsistently. Correlation isn’t coverage, IQ doesn’t measure creativity or emotional intelligence meaningfully.

> DIF shows equal response patterns, so no bias?
DIF controls for test-item fairness, not broader test-context effects. Two people scoring the same may still arrive there under unequal conditions, motivation, stereotype threat, cultural framing. The score may be fair; the situation isn’t.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:15:41 PM No.935857288
EQ IQ
EQ IQ
md5: 60701184754e54a549ccf1a00a2861e6🔍
>>935856898
>Better for utility, maybe, not for meaning. Prediction without understanding risks misapplication and false confidence.
Yes, better for utility. How could there be misapplication if you understand what's happening (on a macroscopic level)?
>No, essence referred to what intelligence fundamentally is, not what it correlates with. Correlation does not equal definition.
Right, well, IQ attempts to extrude g, while g is intelligence (I still don't know what YOU mean by "intelligence").
>Weakly, inconsistently. Correlation isn’t coverage
Not, inconsistently (if high g-loaded tests are used).
>IQ doesn’t measure creativity or emotional intelligence meaningfully.
EI doesn't account for anything more than IQ and the big five, see: picrel.
>DIF controls for test-item fairness, not broader test-context effects. Two people scoring the same may still arrive there under unequal conditions, motivation, stereotype threat, cultural framing. The score may be fair; the situation isn’t.
All you're saying is that IQ also measures brain damage (IQ is reduced by negative environmental encounters). Stereo-type threat isn't going to give someone brain damage.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:17:37 PM No.935857339
Socio-economic status IQ
Socio-economic status IQ
md5: 022479c16b72ddb53e5557b56588cb29🔍
>>935857288
>>935856898
picrel
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:23:18 PM No.935857498
>>935815634
Ruri/Lulu my love
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:29:47 PM No.935857683
>>935808938
This pic says it all. Was a Rowley who stupidly kept trying to hang out with normal kids and got treated like shit and was too dumb and autistic to realize they weren’t actually my friends. Should have tried to find a Greg and Fregly.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:02:09 PM No.935858754
>>935848494
>i remember people most of my life telling me i acted older than i actually was with them being surprised half the time i tell them how old i actually was
why is this is so common with autists
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:18:56 PM No.935859376
1750094336334045.jpg
1750094336334045.jpg
md5: 79d25d6e0da9e77d9e2f34632ffdf88d🔍
>>935858754
it is?
i had a lot of my childhood ruined very early from abuse and my mother didnt lie to me about a lot
she told me so many things you dont tell a child
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:15:37 PM No.935861522
The symptoms can be heavily mitigated with good nutrition and gut health. Or so I hear.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:19:40 PM No.935861663
>>935861522
I'm pretty sure it's that autism leads to poor gut health (due to repetitive, non-varied, and poor food choices), and not the other way around.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:41:43 PM No.935862355
>>935861663
Supposedly a big cause of autism is due to neurotoxin buildup caused by bad gut health.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:47:26 PM No.935862523
>>935862355
>Supposedly a big cause of autism is due to neurotoxin buildup caused by bad gut health.
I'm not entirely sure about that, but I would still stay cautious of having that belief (without good reason), it seems incredibly similar to what Andrew Wakefield was preaching during the anti-vaccine scare (to peddle his mono-valent measles vaccine patent).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancet_MMR_autism_fraud
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:49:27 PM No.935862593
>>935862523
Well its not as if good gut health is a bad idea. If you have no solution you might as well try it.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:54:13 PM No.935862761
>>935862593
>Well its not as if good gut health is a bad idea. If you have no solution you might as well try it.
Gut health is always good, and may help manage symptoms of autism, ADHD depressive disorders, anxiety disorders and many other disorders, but I wouldn't hope for it to directly treat autism or anything.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:57:21 PM No.935862893
>>935862761
>>935861522
Which is why the word mitigated was used.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:01:26 PM No.935863042
>>935862893
Okay.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:59:27 PM No.935865294
>>935808938
even though i will probably never forget the wisdom of this picture i am still saving it
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:00:07 PM No.935865319
>>935841715
>>935851878
>>935852572
You need to go back
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:06:27 PM No.935865592
Never been diagnosed and don’t wanna self diagnose but I have pretty much all of the symptoms. The sensory issues, social awkwardness, very quiet and isolated, feel fundamentally different from everyone in a very deep way, obsessions, rituals, HATE eye contact etc. Half of the people I opened to about it are like wtf obviously you don’t have autism, other half are like haha yeah I kinda see it. I dunno.
What sucks is it feels like it’s getting worse. I talk and I feel unable to get my point across and translate from the language in my head into words. I stutter and awkwardly pause and feel like a sperg. It’s almost like a feeling of being constantly dizzy. And the special interests suck. No one gives a fuck about them and I always annoy people with them and it’s soooo fucking hard to stop myself.
Don’t know what the point of this was just kinda a vent and to see if anyone relates.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:10:27 PM No.935865788
>>935865319
Said the summerfag.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:11:28 PM No.935865829
>>935865788
What the fuck does this mean?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:12:22 PM No.935865876
>>935865829
NTA but summerfag basically means tourist that only uses 4chan during summer vacations
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:16:19 PM No.935866071
>>935865876
Ah, okay.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:26:21 PM No.935866513
>>935808938
>This
so basically accept yourself, think positive, love yourself and let go/ take things more easy.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:30:03 PM No.935866681
>>935866513
It's a mix, you will never be neurotypical so you shouldn't compare yourself to them, but you can learn how to get a feel for when you should tone down your intensity
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:44:59 PM No.935867320
>>935865788
No you really need to go back, your post reads like something pseudo intellectual faggot would say on Reddit.